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Does Apple's iPad 2 further dent Microsoft's iPad compete plans?

By | March 2, 2011, 1:05pm PST

Summary: There’s been a simmering debate as to whether Microsoft understands the tablet/slate market, and Apple’s announcement of the iPad 2 on March 2 turned up the heat on that subject.

There’s been a simmering debate as to whether Microsoft understands the tablet/slate market, and Apple’s announcement of the iPad 2 on March 2 turned up the heat on that subject.

To date, neither Microsoft nor its OEM partners has delivered anything to date that can be considered a head-to-head iPad competitor. And it looks as if Redmond’s 2011 tablet strategy revolves primarily around pushing Windows 7 tablets, emphasizing their enterprise-centric focus. (It remains to be seen how much emphasis and marketing muscle Microsoft will put behind “Webpads” running Windows Embedded Compact 7.)

Unlike some pundits and press folk, I don’t think Microsoft is clueless about what makes a compelling slate/tablet. But I do think the Softies are taking a risky gamble by putting almost all their eggs in the Windows 8 tablet basket, giving Apple and various Android and WebOS competitors a hefty head-start.

Before Apple’s announcement today, I was wondering how much more headroom the second-generation iPad might give Apple. Would Apple unveil any new features or functionality that would cut into Microsoft’s 2011 sales strategy for Windows 7 tablets? Given the growing appeal of iPads to not just consumers but also a number of business customers, maybe Apple would introduce new management or security capabilities — and not just movie-making or music-producing software. (An aside: Microsoft understands the need for compelling music content in the mobile space, too, and is putting up thousands of dollars in prize money to get developers to create HTML5 apps that work well in IE 9.)

But no. Apple didn’t unveil any new features aimed at business users — unless you consider the introduction of a front-facing camera for videochat to be technology that might entice business folks. So I expect Microsoft to continue to try to make a silk purse from a sow’s ear, and to emphasize iPads’ lack of security/manageability functionality, their lack of USB support, and missing Flash/Silverlight support when trying to dissuade customers from going with Apple’s “Post-PC Era” platform.

(If you need a refresher regarding Microsoft’s iPad compete strategy, check out the slides I ran in January from it.) For good measure, here are some additional slides from that deck that I didn’t publish previously that reinforce Microsoft’s enterprise-focused slate-selling strategy:

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RE: Does Apple's iPad 2 further dent Microsoft's iPad compete plans?
makrejktt20-24353590937038825154384472573847 10th Nov
yjnxkh,good post!
Nope.
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Why Nope?
CowLauncher 2nd Mar 2011
is it because Microsoft will not even attempt to seriously enter the market?
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Two different beasts?
Will Farrell 2nd Mar 2011
@CowLauncher

I don't see people throwing away their iPhones for iPads
@CowLauncher LISTEN CAREFULLY!
PLEASE STEP AWAY FROM THE TROLL AND PUT DOWN THAT FOOD. YOU WILL NOT BE HARMED. BUT THE TROLL HAS TO BE PUT OUT OF ITS MYSERY. THIS WILL BE PERFORMED HUMANELY. NOW, PLEASE STEP AWAY FROM THE TROLL AND BACK AWAY. THANK YOU.
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@CowLauncher It's because they'll enter it too seriously.
The iPad isn't an enterprise device... it's a device home users think is fun to watch YouTube and play Angry Birds on.

It is successful because it is everything Win 7 isn't - simple. Easy to use. Intuitive to configure and maintain.

It isn't "serious". It isn't an "enterprise" device.
Windows on a tablet has been done before, and it's failed every time.
iPad succeeds because of iOS.

What MS should do is not take it so serious, forget entirely about enterprise, and just put Windows Phone 7 on it. Use this as an additional driving force - another great reason to make Windows Phone 7 a truly competitive platform.

MS needs development on THAT platform now - not "another layer" added on to make Windows 7 even MORE complex. That will just give users yet another reason to look elsewhere (like iPad). People don't want a "serious", needlessly [outside the Enterprise] complex device for their homes.
@Loverock Davidson I think this time around Apple got it right. When they introduced the Mac in the eighties, they made two mistakes. One was that the hardware was too expensive. The other was that they lacked the apps and an ecosystem.

This time around, I think they got it right. Pre-ordering all these touch screens will cause a major problem for the competition, as Apple owns 60% of the capacity. This means low price for Apple and higher price for the competition. No competition can touch them on price, with a 9.7" screen.

By introducing the iPhone 3 years ago, they created an ecosystem which Microsoft can only dream about. MS spent billions to support their partners who built the MS ecosystem. Apple built an App Store, an SDK and the developers came and even paid Apple $100 for the privilege. Apple takes 30% off the top.

Unlike the PC era, Apple will rule the tablet market with a lion share of the market. This is necessary if they want to be the kings of the media. As of now, music labels, book publishers, news publishers and movie studios are gravitating to Apple. Apple has a billion dollar data center in idle mode. The next chapter will be cloud services...
@prof123

IMO Apple's walled garden is going to hurt them in tablets just as it does in phones. Not that they'll be unsuccessful, just that Android is going to take a large share of market they could otherwise have, if they didn't want to control every app and piece of content, and get a cut of every transaction. Excellent hardware and software are enough to ensure them a good market share, but their lockdown of customer devices is going to hurt them with a large segment of the market.
@DaveN_MVP
There is a pro and con for lockdown. The best "pro" I can think of is malware. By controlling the apps that run on the device, Apple also keeps the malware in check. Most iPhone / iPad users are not techies, they just want a simple device that is easy to use and it works. I think this a reason people like their products.
Most people buy a car and if they never have to open the hood, they are happy...
@DaveN_MVP
"IMO Apple's walled garden is going to hurt them in tablets just as it does in phones."

IO read somewhere this morning (I'll try to find the article and post the link) that Jobs announced sales figures. iPhones were something like 100 million and iPads something like 15 million. That's really not very much "hurt" at all.

Edit:
http://www.macworld.com.au/news/jobs-updates-apple-sales-figures-25665/
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Yeah that "walled garden" has proven
James Quinn 2nd Mar 2011
@DaveN_MVP
to be such a drag on Apple's success and profits. Wait a minute this just in IT HAS NOT PROVEN TO BE A DRAG AT ALL. Not in the least. In fact if anything it's proven to be a key to Apple's success and profits!!! Nor has a lack of Flash proven to be an issue or a none replaceable battery. Go figure:)

Pagan jim
true. MS has no problem attracting devs/apps. even with much fiercer competition than there was when iphone came out their phones sales and appstore is growing much faster than iphones did. With apple giving up share hand over fist to a crap pile like android there's no way they can hope to complete against WP. The WP tools are too superior and the resulting apps are stunningly higher quality than their iphone counterparts. And sorftware services, please, this is where apples biggest weakness vs google and ms is.
@DaveN_MVP
As a user of both platforms I have to tell you that I trust Apple's ecosystem much more than Google's. If you look that the big name publishers in each store, I think you will see more quality apps in Apple's App Store. You can spin it any way you wish, most people worry about security far more than the concept of open. Developers also will follow the dollars, and we all know where the money is.
@DaveN_MVP

Not only does the "walled garden" help to prevent malware (as stated by prof123), but it also helps to promote stable apps.

Now, I said helps. I'm not saying the review process is perfect and things can get past the reviewers, but I think its been proven that the ios devices are way more stable then the android ones. In testing the iPad as a replacement for paper charts/maps, the software never even crashed.


http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/01/ipad-gets-approval-from-faa-to-replace-paper-flight-charts-and-m/

How many reports have there been about crashes on the Xoom since its release?

The biggest thing, though. The normal user DOES NOT CARE about an open system vs walled garden. They care that their device works and does what they want it to do with minimal effort. The iOS interface may be primitive compared to Honeycomb's, but its also a lot more simple to use. Who cares how flashy your "desktop" or "home screen" is, its simply a means to access the applications which do the real work.
@prof123
This time Apple has also got it right in that the iPad leverages all those iPhones out there and all the satisfied users. Add to that the fact that iPad is an "appliance" competing on features that meet the man on the street, IT folks who want to foist other tablets into a workforce of "experienced iPad users" there may be some pushback unless they can prove a value. With the price points of the other tablets coming in higher than iPad, the cost-benefit will be even harder for the Geek Squad to prove.
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@prof123 is on the mark, as is your car analogy. Some of the "marketing" assessments made in these talk back threads are just plain inane, made by folks who don't look further than their fellow techies, friends, and families. It's a big world out there, and millions of ipads and iphones are being sold because they solve a problem for their customers.
@prof123

What you're claiming were mistakes turned out to be very very good for both Apple and its customers. It cost money to introduce USB and CD drives as standard - a move that forced the entire industry to modernize. So the cost of the original iMacs was symptomatic of the costs involved in delivering new technology.

You also have to remember that Apple did this from a position of being close to bankruptcy, having made a massive loss the years before launch. They simply couldn't afford to do what Microsoft did with the X box for instance - make a loss for year after year - just to gain a foothold in the games market. It's the basic economics of survival.

Your second point is spot on. But you've missed out the two most important links in the chain that lead to Apple's dominance of the tablet market today, or rather what made that possible. It was the setting up of the iTunes Store on April 28, 2003 that made iPad and before it, iPhone possible. But iTunes Store was set up to sell music - for the iPod. Apple, or rather Steve Jobs understood that the thing all people have in common is music. Connect with people through their love of music and you have a customer base who will come back to you for other solutions, and do so with trust.

It's the iPod Business Model that they teach at Harvard Business School, because it is the disruptive force that created this phenomenon - all based on our love of music, with the popularity of a brightly coloured, reasonably expensive, internet ready desktop computer with USB and CD drive that didn't look like any other computer anyone had ever seen before, as its foundation.

Otherwise, we agree. But any business that really wants to compete in this game will have to take a trip in a TARDIS - back EIGHT YEARS in time to April 28, 2003!
@prof123 They made yet another mistake...because Apple does not hold the market on tablets. Pricing is what is keeping the masses away from the i-pad. I think this is intentional though. Create a product that is viewed as brillient but limit it's capabilities and market demand as driving its pricing. Microsoft did this...so it's a borrowed philosophy. Hold back your best hand while others build innovative features that you secretly suggest to them via pigions you place strategically in the new technology development areana (knowing that you have already developed and are holding in your trump hand) then release the next iteration of your flagship product with those innovative features that have driven the pricing of your competitors (your great hand).
@eleaders We all realize that some great innovative technology is being held by Apple that will merge many technologies that have been developed but are being held so that pricing does not dive once everybody has merged the technologies. This is why we had notebooks before netbooks and simultaneously GPS readers and a slew of other technologies released seperately. Its called strategic marketing. Stay tuned...Best Buy has asopted this strategy but can it charge a premium for it? Or.... will the Craigslists and E-Bays allow for resales at a reasonable enough price to make the Jones' want what the Smith's and Hatfields and McCoy's have?
@Loverock Davidson

I think the iPad's main competitor is Toys'R'Us.

But keep carrying those overpriced media playing bricks around until you realise it's just not worth it.
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Um yeah that rant of yours might make
James Quinn 2nd Mar 2011
@tonymcs@...
some sense if not for the many satisfied customers out there who own iPads and have PC's at home but still love their iPads. Or an iPhone maybe an iPod they are aware of MS products heck they use them at work and yes even own a Windows PC but still they love their Apple stuff and this includes their iPads. Source after source do the surveys and the results are always the same Apple wins top honors as far as their customers are concerned.

Pagan jim
@tonymcs@...

What nonsense r u spewing ???

I have never heard of a brick which can play music
@tonymcs@...

Note to everyone,
DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.
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Did you mena...
Gr8Music 3rd Mar 2011
@tonymcs@... the Win 7 phone bricks?
@Loverock Davidson I agree, Microsoft has no iPad compete plans at all.
@maxipads

Have fun wasting your money!!!!
Apple left the door open with iPad 1.5, but will Microsoft and others be able to do anything.
lighter, thinner, 10 hours battery life, it will be VERY difficult for MS to come even close, and people will prefer iPad because it has all of the killer tablet apps. Finally, iPad 3 will be ready by the time Windows 8 tablets are out, and MS will have to compete with that. It is also the pace of development that MS will have a hard time keeping up with.
Ladies and gentlemen, here we have Donnieboy who was missing in action when his favorite company Google had problems with missing emails and malware infested apps in Google Market. How have you been Donnie ? I was kinda worried about you. But you came crawling out as soon as you heard Microsoft !!!
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@DonnieBoy
that MS will have a hard time because they can't run on a tablet that's lighter, thinner, 10 hours battery life?

You have now idea what Windows 8 is/does/requires yet you know they won't be able to fit it on a small light tablet?

It runs on ARM, isn't that what eats up power, not the binary numbers sitting on a chip?
@DonnieBoy
It is not Microsoft that is scared, it is you and your boss at Google. You are scared because if Microsoft comes with consumer oriented tablets, then already not so established Android Tablet market will go away.
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Your FUD's getting weaker and weaker db
Johnny Vegas 2nd Mar 2011
This is so lame i thought it was linuxgeek for a second. Like iphone4 there is nothing about this hw that will be hard to ms to have on day 1. apple's on a horrendously slow pace. A look at the lack of significance between the orignal iphone the new cdma iphones shows how little theyve done in 4 years. it will be no problem for W8 tablets to be equal or greater in every hw spec. Same app wise. apple/android can have all the shovelware they want. The few thousand core apps will appear in the ms store in a very short time.
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So where is it Johnny boy?
James Quinn 2nd Mar 2011
@Johnny Vegas
I've yet to see a serious windows based tablet that comes close to competing with the iPad and it's been a while and from what I can tell will be a while. Which begs the question where is this competitor you speak of? Also by the time a serious Windows tablet comes out the iPad 3 will likely be here or close to it, at least based on the pace of development so far:)

Pagan jim
Come on, we are all ears!!!!!

And, you can not make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. What makes you think that MS will suddenly be able to take all of the bloat out of Windows and make it run even half way decent???? What makes you think they will suddenly figure out an appropriate interface for a tablet????
@DonnieBoy
Oh yeah! It seems you have completely went through the source code of Windows.

Listen everyone DonnieBoy knows the complete source code of Windows, thats why he claims it is bloated. wink
order to compete on tablets, WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR???? Why spot Apple a two year head start if it is SOOOO easy???? Seems like they are having some serious problems.
@DonnieBoy
Excellent point, Window 8 might be ready to compete with iPad 3, the problem will be that Apple and Google will have already put those devices in museums by then. Microsoft is chasing its tail trying to stay relevant.
@koolin_
All the others are selling more expensive devices which have "touch/gesture as a second language" interfaces. Folks who have held and tried an iPad will have a basis for a minimal acceptable user experience. If the wanna-bees are clunky, only serious Geeks who want "open" and unbridled techno-toys will be the market.
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Nope, the iPad2 is a dud...
Atley 2nd Mar 2011
It seems to be an upgrade for upgrade's sake... Because the shareholders and the public expected it.

There is no innovation in the new device. Yea's it's a little thinner than the iPad 1, but not really faster and no big storage increases.

I guess the camera will be a feature, but really not much of one.

I, for one, was kinda hoping to see a great new device to perhaps light a fire under the folks in Redmond, but now, they will just keep going on their present course.
@Atley
Nine times faster graphics speed and twice the CPU speed not enough for you? A full third thinner merits only the "little" adjective? You have tough standards!

But, to be fair, in two years, the fourth generation of the iPad should meet your definition for design innovation.
keeping up with. Google has a much better shot at being competitive, as they are much farther along and already run on Arm.
@kenosha7777
Well there's a difference between innovation and a basic upgrade. Every iteration of a new device follows a specific template. Faster, lighter, more industry assumed features, and cheaper.

The iPad 2 follows this. It is lighter, more powerful, has front and back cameras like every other tablet on the market or announced for market, and same price as old one even with the extra hardware.

I will say that new cover is really cool though. I am jealous of that.
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@kenosha7777
I can see Google having a hard time selling Honeycomb on a tablet after today. The iPad 2 is closer to what many were willing to buy, so I think they'll finally pull the trigger.

I think MS has the better chance with a tablet down the road theh Google only because I can see interoperability across their platforms, something Apple has, but Google lacks and is too far behind on to make a difference.
@kenosha7777
You all know I'm a huge Apple guy but they need to overhaul the UI. The Xoom UI looks much better than iOS. Sadly the price is insane.
@DonnieBoy
What Google innovative? Dream on. Google just copies others.
@DonnieBoy
Google and it is innovative? Last time when I checked they stole it from Apple, RIM, WinMo and WebOS. Now for their tablets, they stole from iPad, Windows, WebOS and RIM. I don't see any innovation there, unless if you redefine innovation as copying others blindly.
that even that will not help them. Billions in the bank and everything to lose, and they spot Apple a two year lead on tablets. BRILLIANT!!
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@itguy08: I'm guessing that you think the UI of MS Office 2010 is "awesome" with it's ribbons and crap. It ruined years of learned behaviour and muscle memory for a lot of people. I hate change for the sake of change. There has to be a good reason for it and it has be be easier to use. The Xoom UI is different but not easier to use for a complete noob.

Nobody wants or needs "IT guys" to help them with the iPad and I that is what you have a problem with.

As a developer, I hate people who think "new" is always better.
@kenosha7777

Nope. Most Windows tablets are far, far more powerful. The X201 tablets can have a Core i7 processor. Try beating that with your puny ARM-based toys.
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than god you're not running apple..
doctorSpoc 3rd Mar 2011
@Atley ..yeah, let's completely revamp the product in the second generation and totally alienate everyone who bought into the ecosystem of the 1st gen device not to mention iPhone and iPod Touch.. that would be completely stupid, man!

you do all your basic, core innovation for the platform coming in.. then you do incremental upgrade.. thats the model for success.. think about it.. 2x CPU and 9x GPU upgrade fantastic.. especially in a lighter, thinner (people love this) package..
@Atley
Please don't call all the copying Motorola, HP, Samsung and others are doing innovation. Call it what it is, chasing after Apple with a device designed after Apple INNOVATED and blazed the trail with iPad.
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RE: Does Apple's iPad 2 further dent Microsoft's iPad compete plans?
makrejktt20-24353590937038825154384472573847 10th Nov
yjnxkh,good post!

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