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Forget June: Microsoft already pushing IE9 via Windows Update

By | April 6, 2011, 1:40pm PDT

Summary: On April 6, I began receiving reports from users who had not installed the Release Candidate (RC) or the beta of IE9 that they were seeing IE 9 show up via Windows Update — something that wasn’t supposed to be happening until late June.

Microsoft officials said recently that the company was not going to push Internet Explorer (IE) 9 to users who hadn’t tested its latest browser until late June.

On April 6, however, I began receiving reports from users who had not installed the Release Candidate (RC) or the beta of IE9 that they were seeing IE 9 show up via Windows Update — something that wasn’t supposed to be happening yet.

Some users were none too happy about this, given they had been expecting Microsoft to push the update to them — and their users (if they are administrators for larger networks) — for a couple more months. (One less disgruntled user did quip: “Better early than never. Now where’s my NoDo update?“)

Microsoft has marked the update as “important,” said users who began seeing it today. It is being pushed to Windows 7, Vista, Windows Server 2008, and Windows Server 2008 R2 users, according to reports I’m getting.


The Microsoft Knowledge Base Support site does not mention that Microsoft changed plans and decided to start pushing it two months earlier than expected.

I’ve asked Microsoft what gives. Why is the company pushing IE 9 now instead of late June? No word back yet, other than a spokesperson noting “as is standard, IE9 is available on DLC (Microsoft Download Center) for users to download it manually.”

The people from whom I’ve heard so far are not manually downloading it; they are having it pushed to them. The “published” date on the Windows Update versions is “yesterday” (April 5).


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I’m curious who else out there is seeing IE 9 pushed via Windows Update, Microsoft Update and/or Windows Server Update Services. Meanwhile, there is an IE 9 blocking tool out there for admins who do not want IE 9 made available to their Windows users.

Update: So here’s the explanation from Microsoft. When Microsoft officials said in late March that “Internet Explorer 9 will not be broadly rolled out on Windows Update until the end of June,” that didn’t mean that Microsoft wouldn’t roll it out beforehand to those who weren’t testing IE9.

The March 29 blog post also stated, “Windows Update for all our Windows customers will start sometime next month and by the end of June we will have a great sense of the enthusiasm on Windows 7 for IE9.” So those of us who interpreted the first sentence as meaning it wouldn’t go to Windows users broadly until late June should have read the whole post (twice,perhaps).Still, there is/was no exact date in the Microsoft post as to when it would begin being pushed out to all Windows users, creating confusion.

A Microsoft spokesperson also said that users who are encountering IE9 on Windows Update are those who are scanning for new updates. If/when they do this, IE 9 will be “offered” to them. Users still must opt to download it once it is “offered.”

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Mary Jo has covered the tech industry for more than 25 years for a variety of publications and Web sites, and is a frequent guest on radio, TV and podcasts, speaking about all things Microsoft-related. She is the author of Microsoft 2.0: How Microsoft plans to stay relevant in the post-Gates era (John Wiley & Sons, 2008).

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RE: Forget June: Microsoft already pushing IE9 via Windows Update
tomlin21-24319035676893835085146735905770 11th Oct
Wonderful getting going to your blog site web page as soon as once more, it has been months for me. Effectively this beneficial report that i've been waited for so mulberry bag extended.
It showed in my Updated this morning.
@javajolt
I've built a few systems this week. A few minutes ago it showed up for the first time as I finished patching my last one.
@javajolt I saw it today too at my work station, but I was already installing it nonetheless.
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@javajolt
It showed up in my update on April 2nd
Thanks for the update. Your warning allowed me to block the IE9 Update in time. Unfortunately, I do not have time to warn all of my customers before it hits them. The 'no notice', or 'sneak attack', forced update has become the typical Microsoft approach to its customers.
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Interesting
itpro_z 7th Apr 2011
@info@... I find it interesting that you feel the need to block something that requires the user to manually check to box before it will download. How does this represent a "sneak attack" or "forced update"?
@itpro_z@...

Perhaps he feels that his customers are too dumb to be trusted not to just click whatever appears on the screen.

Now, the exact reasons for him holding IE9 in such disregard might be interesting.

I installed it as soon as it became available.
(Of course, i only use it as a last resort after Opera [and then Firefox] can't handle some Microsoft-centric page.)
@info@... This is actually to all who speculated "why" one would not want the update. I've had stability problems with IE 9. Not bad mind you, and rare, but all the same it does give page is not responding errors. If it gives you this error when your composing an email in a box to a company or replying to a friend on facebook, what you wrote isn't backed up. Start over. Not fun. I've stopped bragging about how great it was since the first time it did it. I was impressed initially with IE 9. Not so much now. I'm back to Firefox which has almost never crashed on me for anything other than massive flash and java issues caused by the webmaster in every case I can remember.
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RE: blueskip
itpro_z 7th Apr 2011
blueskip, I have had some stability issues with IE9, but then again I have had stability issues with every browser I have used, including FF, so that does not surprise me. IE9 is improving rapidly, so I see less issues today than I did when I first installed it. I would also say the same about FF4, which has settled down considerably.

I have not seen the email issue, but my wife has complained about it on her laptop so I know it exists. She now types her longer emails in her word processor (Libre Office), then pastes them into her email. I am not sure what causes that issue, but I saw the same thing in IE8 when typing posts such as this one. I learned to hit CTRL-A and CTRL-C before posting anything very long, or use a word processor like I suggested to my wife.
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@info@... Yeah - and they probably have no concept of how many corporate users they are pi$$ing off with their heavy handed arrogant attitude. We will never see the update because all our users are still on a solid XP platform.
fairportfan said "...Perhaps he feels that his customers are too dumb to be trusted not to just click whatever appears on the screen...." Actually that IS the rule more so than not in every corp environment - only a SMALL portion are actually IT aware.... Others just blow & go with no thought or concept about keeping their tools in good shape ...
@info@...
I know MS used to do this, but with Win7 you are given a choice as to how you want updates handled when initially configuring this and again to tick or not, to install each update. I'm no fan of MS, much prefer 'Squeeze' unfortunately still have to use Windows at times. Sure miss the freedom and power to do what you like with your own laptop in linux.
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Ditto on my Win 7 update.
kd5auq 7th Apr 2011
@javajolt
Got it yesterday.
@javajolt
Showed up as an "important update" this morning. I hadn't been looking for it or even checked into it until today. Decided to skip this one for now.
@javajolt I had to uninstall it. I was building a simple site on Yahoo Business using their "site Solution" website building script and could not continue until I uninstalled it and went back to IE8
@dapted
@dapted Funny, Yahoo is pushing this update as well - of course with the yahoo toolbar. AND it does not work with their site builder???? You'd think they would test before sending out the mass email - such as I received for my commercial site.
I had IE9 RC om my machine and my bank would not accept it because they redid their web page and RC's and betas wouldn't work. I reloaded Windows 7 and I received the IE9 as an update along with SP1. That was the only way I could do banking online. Go figure.
@tercom

You know they can' scan for specific versions and then block them for lack of anything, right? That isn't a Go Figure but an issue the bank has with you using a browser in such status! not Microsoft's fault
@tercom @ Ez_Customs It is MS fault for not informing users it is in the updates so that a planned deployment could be made.
Just checked Win Update and noticed this "Important" update is waiting for me. Not sure if I'll install it or wait.
@javajolt
Yes, this showed up last week in auto updates. Good thing I had it set to "notify me but do not download".
@Saja

That is how I have all of my comp's set up. And this is the exact reason why.
@javajolt
I downloaded and installed it yesterday but it kept crashing on opening so uninstalled the update. Similar experience with Mozilla Firefox 4 also. Haven't investigated the problem for reasons of expediency. I have been reinstalling laptop Win 7 and apps etc for a few days, only got online with this laptop yesterday.
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Do you know why?
Return_of_the_jedi Updated - 6th Apr 2011
@MJ

"Im curious who else out there is seeing IE 9 pushed via Windows Update, ..."

Could it have been FF4 record setting downloads that shows no sign of slowing up

Thanks for your insight.
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Record setting downloads?
John Zern 6th Apr 2011
@Return_of_the_jedi
You do understand that IE9 only runs on Vista and Windows 7, right?
@John Zern
You do understand that MS/Windows has 90% of the market and so it would reasonably be expected that a very large proportion of FF downloads probably went onto Windows machines.
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You seem to think you know Windows
Mr. Dee 6th Apr 2011
@Return_of_the_jedi ...for someone who doesn't use it. Why don't you go back to your buggy Ubuntu 11.04 that can't even get basics of pinning a shortcut right.
@Mr. Dee
Your problem lies in trying to make everything work like Windows. Try learning something new for a change.
@Mr. Dee Ummm.... Ubuntu 11.04 has just gone into beta.... it is expected to be buggy...
@Mr. Dee Let's don't put Ubuntu into a fight with Windows should we? The real threat now to the computing industry advance right now on the tablet market is called Google's OS: Chrome OS and Honeycomb, Google wants to convince hardware parthners to put their OS on the tablets, but this should not be happening, the Enterprise needs tablets and Google isn't the right direction to go.
@Return_of_the_jedi Show me FF4 vs IE9 on Vista and W7 machines.
@Return_of_the_jedi http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/223314/article.html

Here I did the research for you with Bing. They are equal on level playing field platforms.
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An improvement, but nowhere near "equal"
bugslayerjohn 7th Apr 2011
@jessiethe3rd You obviously don't do any sort of web development. IE9 is a huge step forward, but it still only supports half of what all other modern browsers support. The web experience of the entire world is being held back because some people still insist on using IE, because Microsoft is always the last to adopt the standards, and because IE users routinely run 5 years old versions of their browsers.

Pushing this out via Windows Update is the best thing MS has ever done for web standards and compatibility.
@Return_of_the_jedi LOL! maybe...
@Return_of_the_jedi My guess is that there are a lot of people that are just happy with ie6-8 and don't even think about what browser they use. On the other hand I downloaded FF4 in hopes that I would use the IETab add-on less. Didn't happen and I will probably switch back to IE9.
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Why june? Have you not read the MS blog entry?

It was said that it starts next month (last month was March):

"Windows Update for all our Windows customers will start sometime next month":
http://windowsteamblog.com/ie/b/ie/archive/2011/03/29/a-thoughtful-approach-to-measuring-browser-adoption.aspx
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June was the target for those
Mary Jo Foley 6th Apr 2011
who had not installed any test builds of IE9. Microsoft said (and I've reported) that those who downloaded the RC and/or beta would get it pushed starting in March. The folks complaining are the ones who thought they had until late June. Thanks. MJ
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@Mary Jo Foley

Sorry you didn't read it correctly. the MS blog says something different. for all our Windows customers says all users, not IE9 Beta/RC users.
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Contradictory info in the referenced blog...
randysmith@... 7th Apr 2011
@Mary Jo Foley , unfortunately just as the quote above from the linked blog was correct, the SAME article also says "Internet Explorer 9 will not be broadly rolled out on Windows Update until the end of June. We do this because we have hundreds of millions of business customers that rely on Internet Explorer and require an appropriate window of time to plan and test their deployments. We also have a responsibility, as the most popular browser on the planet, to ensure that IE9 is introduced in a timeline that allows web site developers to have the chance to ensure their site is 100% ready" - so it seems that Ryan Gavin was not being careful in his writing!
Had them yesterday in 4PC's (Vista and W7).
The update though marked important still required you to manually check it to download.
@leocrew I honestly don't know why Microsoft didn't bundle the prerequisites necessary to install IE 9 on either Windows 7 or Vista. I found it annoying that I still had download additional updates to install IE 9. And why not have two unified installers, one 32 bit and one 64 bit. You have download IE 9 for:

Windows 7 64 bit
Windows 7 32 bit
Windows Vista 32 bit
Windows Vista 64 bit
Windows Server 2008 32 bit
Windows Server 2008 64 bit
Windows Server 2008 R2 64 bit

Microsoft, thats annoying.
@Mr. Dee My concern was not feeling that users were given time to load the (Opt. out of IE9) application we have to install to avoid the push. Thankfully this article lets us know that the update is coming and could be forcibly pushed any day now. So annoying or not, I'm happy knowing I'm prepared to block it.
@Mr. Dee
Done to avoid another round of European anti trust regulations that happens when Opera cries. Same with Security Essentials, should be preloaded but the political cost is too high. Microsoft is now taking the daring position of offering to download Security Essentials to PCs that have NO security software installed. Microsoft has been instrumental in taking down some big botnets recently and is finally figuring out that it needs to do more to fight the black hats.
Wow'ee can they move fast when browser share is shrinking fast and Firefox 4 takes off like a rocket.
Firefox & Chrome up while IE goes down.
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@CustomComputers
now that IE9 is avaliable for them.
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@CustomComputers Ever since IE 9 hit RTM, I have been using it exclusively, its much nice and integrates nicely with Windows 7, features like pinning sites to the Taskbar or Start menu, Tracking Protection, Cleaner, simpler design, and the features like snap, preview shows a browser that is way more innovative than Firefox will ever be.
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Same here
LiquidLearner 6th Apr 2011
@Mr. Dee

Although instead of Chrome, which had become my default home browser. Well, not system default because I'm perfectly capable of picking which browser I want to open. But Chrome was my default browser until IE9.

Tracking Protection sealed the deal for me. If they'd add spell check it would be perfect. Still don't get that one...
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Have you checked out ieSpell?
Wolfie2K3 7th Apr 2011
@LiquidLearner
www.iespell.com - It should be compatible with IE9.
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RE: Forget June: Microsoft already pushing IE9 via Windows Update
tomlin21-24319035676893835085146735905770 11th Oct
Wonderful getting going to your blog site web page as soon as once more, it has been months for me. Effectively this beneficial report that i've been waited for so mulberry bag extended.

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