It is time to stop the spread of Vista SP1 misinformation!
Summary: Microsoft wants you to be informed about the current state of the Windows Vista SP1 beta. (Not really, but they are pretending they do....) Here's the latest missive from Microsoft headquarters on what's going on with the awaited update for Vista.
Microsoft wants you to be informed about the current state of the Windows Vista SP1 beta.
(Not really, but they are pretending they do....)
Here is the latest official missive on Vista SP1 from Microsoft headquarters:
"There will be a Windows Vista service pack and our current expectation is that a beta will be made available sometime this year. Service packs are part of the traditional software lifecycle — they’re something we do for all Microsoft products as part of our commitment to continuous improvement, and providing early test builds is a standard practice that helps us incorporate customer feedback and improve the overall quality of the product.
"Service packs are just one example of the work we do to constantly improve the Windows experience. We also deliver improvements to Windows via Windows Update, which is an excellent channel for providing our customers with the most significant updates as they happen. And, since Windows Vista launched, we have continued working with partners to improve overall device coverage and application compatibility. There are now more than 2.1 million supported devices and more than 2,000 logoed applications for Windows Vista. We think customers will have a great experience using Windows Vista today.
"Spread the word to stop misinformation."
I agree. It is time to stop the misinformation, the bulk of which is coming from Microsoft right now.
Who said there would be a public beta of Vista SP1 this week? I've been saying Microsoft would extend a beta of Vista SP1 to a selected group of testers in mid-July, most likely this week. (Microsoft has got testers so panicked now about being fingered as sources of leaks that even if and when they do get the SP1 code, I'm doubtful anyone will dare say anything.)
Here's a little more of an update, courtesy of the Bink.nu site:
"So the only release (of Vista SP1) that's occurring is a limited Beta to a very small, very select group of advance customers. A public version of the Beta is not being released this week, nor next, nor in July, nor anytime in the immediate future."
(Update: Looks like the powers-that-be at Microsoft got to Bink. This part of the statement has been removed. Oh well.)
Yeah, I've had no luck in getting Microsoft to provide a date for if or when there will be a public beta of SP1, either. Nothing but no comments. All I know is Microsoft has told some testers they are shooting to get SP1 out by November. Maybe they meant a public beta of SP1...not sure.
If Microsoft is going to such great lengths to keep the status and feature set of a service pack secret, what will they do when it's finally time to start talking about Windows Seven? Will wiretaps be involved? Scouring employees' phone records for calls to unapproved numbers? Logging people's private IM sessions? I better get out my long blond wig and heels (again)....
Just remember folks: It's just a service pack. Something that should be seen as good news for the many businesses and individuals that still prefer to wait for a fix pack from Microsoft before rolling out a new product.
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Maybe they will take a page from Apple's book
The difference, of course, is that the MS userbase won't be gushing over with forgiveness like the Apple crowd was...
Maybe they will take a page from Apple's book
Full Price??
I look at the Vista Ultimate Case with it's $245.44 price sticker on it (from Sam's Club), and I say to myself, "Why did I do it. I certainly didn't get what I paid for! I should have listened to my own advice and WAITED."
Are you reminded of drug dealers giving away or charging modest prices for their merchandise until they have you hooked? Maybe I watch too much TV. (I'd be better off sitting in front of the tube than waisting so much time looking for updated drivers that may never come from greedy vendors wanting to sell me a new scanner or printer! I did shell out for Partition Magic and a half terabyte drive to dual boot from.)
That's a new OS there, fanboy
for. And, it's great to GET a new OS every year if you want it. You don't HAVE to
upgrade, but then again, much older models still work when you compare to the
Microsoft alternative.
Face these facts:
1. MS can't manage to get a new OS out in even 5 years, and definitely not with
the features they announced originally.
2. MS is rushing out with something, anything they can call SP1 since everyone
from IT to gamers are saying to hold off until SP or altogether.
3. It was beta tested thoroughly and they found most of the technical issues at
that point. There's not that much more they can do that hasn't been done (in a
microsoft view of the project, it's been fully copied/implemented).
4. The problem with Vista is that a lot of vendors are not supporting it.
5. Unless you want to consider that very few users are going to pay the exorbitant
retail price for Vista. (As if anyone ever bought any versoin of Vista at reatail. I
mean, it would be cheaper just to get an ultra cheap computer that had it than
buying the box off the shelf, right?
6. MS can't do anything else unless they start over wtih a new OS idea. (This
would be a first for them, BTW.)
comp_indiana can you name a vendor thats not supporting it. i can't
and you said "Updates are free on Mac, always have been. Only a new OS is charged
for. And, it's great to GET a new OS every year if you want it. You don't HAVE to upgrade, but then again, much older models still work when you compare to the Microsoft alternative"
i know people that still use win3.1 and up. why i don't know but they do. you don't have to upgrade. but just like any os it's just not supported any more.
Not a business major obviously...
They don't have a choice in the matter and in fact the #1 PC retailer in the country (Dell) is selling it's computers with your CHOICE of XP or Vista on many models because so many people want to stick w/ XP... Do you honestly think Gateway, Sony or Toshiba has the same amount of leverage in order to make this happen? If so, you're delusional and should seek professional help.
You forgot one!
Umm...
http://www.southernsoftware.com/
http://www.rocksolidpos.com/rock/default.asp?t=2#req
What a joke.
That has got to be the silliest remark I have seen in weeks. Either your dumb as a stump or you think you can fool people.
A new OS every year is simply the old OS with a service pack included. This isn't rocket since about the way Apple works, its just reality. Thats not to say that Apple has never come out with anything that qualified as a truly new OS, they certainly have from time to time. But cut the foolish crap about it being an actual new OS every year. Its almost always the old OS with a service pack.
If your definition was anything close to correct then when Windows XP with SP1 or SP2 started selling they should be called a new OS as well as opposed to the old OS with the new SP included.
Look, Apple makes a decent OS, if you like it and its the best choice for you, fine. Great, but please, give up the usual Apple Jack apologies for what short comings Apple does have. Apple is far from perfect as well and if the Apple apologists don't get a grip on reality some time soon Apple will just continue to toddle down its narrow path thinking that so long as they can pull the wool this completely over the eyes of its current users sooner or later it will find a way to reel in the rest of the world. It wont if it doesn't work on its shortcomings.
Honest and earnest answer
There are a metric ton of articles of Apple's FUD and a race to patch gaping holes. Linux has its issues too, and if Linux was the world's leader in OS there would be hundreds, thousands, and perhaps tens of thousands of hackers working very intently to expose and exploit the operating system more so. Please think about that too the next time the Microsoft Bashers want to compare things.
Apple makes a decent OS but far from perfect by any means, and Liniux is coming a long way, but has quite a ways to go.
I definately will agree with all those that believe Microsoft is certainly greedy with Vista and the operating system costs too darn much for the box and to factor in the cost for software upgrades, software upgrades, well that's just too much for a good many people. Vista if and when it really fails will fail not because so much of the operating system itself, but of other issues, such as cost, consumerism, marketting, and the community support or lack there of.
Vista is not Microsoft Me -- Thank god. But Apple is far from any silver lining in any dark cloud, and as for Linux, heck, it's only a canary breaking wind in a hurrican of reality in the consumer and business world.
has quite a ways to go
anybody, other than Microsoft, install
mandatory spyware on a computer to monitor
and control it? And force the user to prove
it is a "legal" (meaning Microsoft approved)
system over and over and over and over.....?
Once Microsoft has verified that a system
is "legal", exactly how does it become
NOT "legal"? Because someone else has
activated a system using it's key? How is a
user supposed to keep an unknown stranger
from using his key? And why should a user be
forced to pay for it if someone unknown to
said user steal the key through no fault of
said user? Sounds like Microsoft is forcing
their customers to pay for the theft of any
key instead of prosecuting the perpetrator,
doesn't it? On top of the cost, Microsoft is
insulting, bullying, and harassing their
customers with all the spyware, which
amounts to rootkits and Trojans, that they
forcefully install on said customers
computers, aren't they?
It would appear that anybody in his right
mind would refuse to agree to such Gestapo
measures, even if Vista was reeeeeely good,
(which it is not), wouldn't you say?
You would be wrong (if you did say). It is
nothing short of amazing, astounding,
unbelievable, the number of people that will
go along with such Mafia practices, I would
say.
uh?
MOST Venders support Vista. Where did you get the idea they weren't?
Vista came out before Leopard. Leopard has very few features Vista doesn't. All these mac fanboi's are like OMG I R LOVE TIMEMACHINE!! uh... Vista has an automatic back up. Even in the home premium version. The Ultra version actually makes shadow copies of EVERYTHING automatically. I can see you saying gadgets are stolen widgets. I could buy that. Except the code is completely different. Microsoft possibly took the idea. But they made it SOOO much easier for you to make your own gadgets than Apple did to make your own widgets.
Um? new OS idea? Microsoft announced (before XP came out, mind you) that Windows 9 or 10 would be the final Windows. The post Windows OS from Microsoft is currently being called Microsoft OS by those who remember that it exists. It's supposed to based on WinFS (which is so much better than ZFS, kthx), but have a completely redesigned user interface. No start bar. No stupid dock. More like a classic windows interface that's streamlined and all.
Vista is the same price as XP was when it started out. Also much cheaper than OS X. Tiger is 120 on Newegg. Vista Home premium is also 120. Unless you get a deal on it with a package, like many people do. For instance, I got Home premium, Norton 2007, some tax software, a3-in-1 printer, Microsoft OneCare and some pc clean up thing for 120. Circuit City sold that. Microsoft gave me a copy of Microsoft Office 2007 Professional for beta testing it and going to a seminar. Microsoft does so much more for the customer. And they don't have to wear skin tight spandex-esque clothes to do it. They have better tech support, a fuller, less expensive and more compatible product than OS X or and Linux flavor. So just be quiet unless you don't plan on putting other systems down because you're computer won't run it.
So just be quiet
remote isolated forum, eh?
Probably be a bunch different iffen you wuz
face to face with some of them big ole whale
hunters, dontcha think?
Brag all you like, but them whale hunters is
gonna do the same, Bubba.
Jo Just Wanting to be an insider?
It's a good thing for the public...
Now, as for the point that the largest and most influential software company in the world isn't worth at least one person keeping a full time eye on them, well that's just about the dumbest thing I've heard in a while.
Stealling is Stealing No matter how you Spin it!
Lastly, an unblinking eye sees everything, not just the slanted and deliberately negative things.
Use a little logic dude
Your "shill" status is exposed!
Shill/troll!!!
by now
Mary Jo is the so-called unblinking eye!