Kinect for Windows: new hardware and software due February 1

By | January 9, 2012, 8:11pm PST

Summary: The promised Kinect sensor for PCs and accompanying software will be out as of February 1 in 12 countries, Microsoft announced at CES on January 9.

There was next-to-no news during Microsoft’s final keynote at the Consumer Electronics Show on January 9 until the absolute end of CEO Steve Ballmer’s hour-plus address.

The one tidbit: The Kinect for Windows sensor and software development kit which the Softies said late last year would be out in early 2012 is, indeed, on its way. On February 1, both the new Kinect sensor for Windows PCs and the accompanying SDK (under a commercial license, not a hobbyist license) will be available.

From a post on the Kinect for Windows blog:

“Today, we are announcing that the new Kinect for Windows hardware and accompanying software will be available on February 1st, 2012 in 12 countries (United States, Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Mexico, New Zealand, Spain, United Kingdom), at a suggested retail price of US $249. Kinect for Windows hardware will be available, in limited quantities at first, through a variety of resellers and distributors.  The price includes a one-year warranty, access to ongoing software updates for both speech and human tracking, and our continued investment in Kinect for Windows-based software advancements.  Later this year, we will offer special academic pricing (planned at US $149) for Qualified Educational Users.”

The new sensor also is available for pre-order via Amazon.com.

The Kinect for Windows sensor looks (from pictures) almost identical to the Kinect for Xbox. But it is designed to work at closer range and to work with Windows 7/8 PCs. In addition to making firmware adjustments in the new Windows Kinect sensor, Microsoft also is shortening the USB cable and including of a “small dongle” to improve coexistence with other USB peripherals. The Windows version will modify the Kinect depth camera to see objects that are “as close as 50 centimeters in front of the device” without sacrificing accuracy or precision.

Microsoft execs also said on January 9 that the company has sold 18 million Kinects to date.

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RE: Kinect for Windows: new hardware and software due February 1
ScubaDog 13th Jan
@Mikael_z, here's where I think (and hope) this is going: With Windows 8 being touch-first, I think we will be able, of course, to use the touch interface on a tablet, but on the desktop we will be able to meld the keyboard/mouse use with gestures. I crave being able to simply use gestures to flip around the OS and, to some extent, control apps. As a musician, I would find it extremely helpful to stay behind my synth/keyboard controller and, using gestures only, be able to stop & start recording of tracts, rewind, etc. without stepping over to use the mouse (not everyone can set up their studio "in the round" or "over/under").
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Kinect for embedded
lewisbenge 9th Jan
The hidden news here for developers is offical support for Kinect on embedded platform. This opens up Kinect beyond just Windows on PCs but on kiosks, signage, ATMs, and even set-top boxes and TVs.
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This is certainly interesting!
Mikael_z 10th Jan
@lewisbenge
Does this mean that Kinect will be useful for more applications than games?
In that case, like what?
@Mikael_z interactive clothing etc shopping, there are sites out there now that can take exact measurements and build you a custom suit using Kinect is one I can think of off the top of my head.

The point I think is it opens up a huge area for new concepts and ideas
@Mikael_z
Like replacing a mouse with hand movements? System wide face recognition? Computer taken measurements?

In other words... are you serious? Kinect is one of the most amazing technologies released in the last decade and it hasn't even been tapped yet.
@Mikael_z

If you check out the Kinect effect video (http://youtu.be/T_QLguHvACs) it demonstrates where things are heading in general. Kinect offers a way of interacting with PCs beyond a mouse and keyboard, in a time when a PC is no longer generalised on the desktop.
The extension to the embedded platform now allows Kinect to also move into non-typical PC devices too, like ATMs, Kiosk, etc. It opens up a new channel of innovation we previously didn't have.
@lewisbenge
Thank you for the information!
Yes, I understand now, it's more like touch but without touching, control from a distance which could be used for anything you can imagine.
Combined with intelligent voice recognition I can see this as a standard part of future gadgets, as long as it doesn't require much practice to learn.
@Mikael_z, here's where I think (and hope) this is going: With Windows 8 being touch-first, I think we will be able, of course, to use the touch interface on a tablet, but on the desktop we will be able to meld the keyboard/mouse use with gestures. I crave being able to simply use gestures to flip around the OS and, to some extent, control apps. As a musician, I would find it extremely helpful to stay behind my synth/keyboard controller and, using gestures only, be able to stop & start recording of tracts, rewind, etc. without stepping over to use the mouse (not everyone can set up their studio "in the round" or "over/under").
but its basically the same thing?
@RyanGadz
it is the same thing but "near mode" enabled. You could learn more about near mode here at http://blogs.msdn.com/b/kinectforwindows/archive/2011/11/22/kinect-for-windows-building-the-future.aspx.
@RyanGadz
With a commercial license so that you can build software and sell it. i.e. companies will actually put it to use because now they can make a big profit whereas before they could not with a hobbyist license. Its going to completely change how a desktop operates and beyond.
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What about the Apps?
smulji 9th Jan
Are there any Windows-based apps coming that will take advantage of Kinect for Windows?
Commercial SDK only? What dick heads. Why make a move like this and piss off the community when it will end up pirated within a week anyways?
@Sqrly you have that upside down - commercial means you can sell what you develop if you choose whereas the beta license didn't allow that and was a hobbyist license. More, the SDK is and will remain free - MS want to sell hardware (and mindshare)
@MurphHJS Any idea on the price of the commercial SDK?
@MurphHJS @jalbacas - the SDK is free, and for dev you can continue to use the XBox Kinect controller. Microsoft have decided to re-coup revenue on hardware spend, so to use the platform in a commercial setting, or sell Kinect apps you need to be looking at the Kinect for Windows sensor.
@Sqrly big dummy that's backwards...
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There was a lot more than what you think
easson Updated - 9th Jan
I just listened to the video.

In my opinion, there was a lot that confirmed what a number of analysts had previously speculated about Windows 8, Windows Phone 8, tablets, Xbox, etc.

You just have to read the tea leaves from Microsoft, who a few years ago adopted Apple's limited approach to revealing information about future products.
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I didn't hear anything new about Windows 8, Windows Phone 8 (not even mentioned) or Xbox TV beyond what we knew already. But if there were tidbits, please share! Thanks MJ
@Mary Jo Foley
1. Symantic Zoom
2. Pinching Out from Start Screen to pan through.
3. Grouping Live Tiles.
of course all of these are Windows 8 related. But you really listened to the last statement of Ballmer, it is "Metro, Metro, Metro, Windows, Windows, Windows", which makes Metro is their Future and Windows 8 is the starting point of unifying most of their platforms.
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awesome, now kinect can flop on two platforms, Xbox360 and Windows!
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Funny
rbethell 10th Jan
@CAP198462 How does math work in your world? 18 million units might be a very few on Coruscant.... here on Earth it isn't too shabby!
@CAP198462
do you believe that by saying it, your words would "magically" make it so?

Or are you being sacarstic? I do find satire to be a difficult concept to grasp at times.
@Mister Spock
Mister Spock, you have to forgive CAP198462, he is probably an Apple fan-boy. They are having a difficult time lately. When they do pull their heads out of the sand they see no Steve Jobs and that throws them into confusion. They have no one to tell them what to think or what to buy so they stick their heads back into the sand and wait for Steve Job???s second coming. You gotta feel sorry for them.
@CAP198462
Bring on sourgrapes. yeah we got it, Millions of Windows PCs and out of which 50% are Windows 7 PCs and all the windows 7 pcs are Windows 8 enabled on day one of its release and 18 million Kinects in one year are really flops. /sarcasm
@Rama.NET

There must be that many xbox360 boxes at least. Pity, I haven't yet seen one... but probably this is because I don't live in the US happy

Ot maybe they have ordered 18 million units and some stores agreed to put them in shelves?
@danbi
Before you attempt a joke, remember that Kinect is 2 years old. And this was the 2nd Christmas season for it. So while you tried your jab flopped.
@CAP198462 Really hum, not sure what color the sky is in your world but in reality it's far from a flop...just ask the people at Wii and PS3 and there - now - archaic hand held devices.
@CAP198462 Nah. First of all, three platforms, because the Linux folks already developed Kinect drivers and put them in the kernel before there were Windows drivers! happy Secondly, this is a tinkerer's dream, so it'll definitely succeed on Linux, but it has so much promise I can't see it failing on the other two platforms either.
Now if they would friggin port an Emulator with Games For Windows Live, so we could play X-box games on a PC. They could even (Wait for it, Charge us Money), what a concept. Why do I have to think of everything for these Corporate clowns?
@trust2112@... You mean I could finally find out what happened in the world of Halo after Halo 1?
@trust2112@... LoL and pray tell why would anyone ever buy an Xbox after that then? :P
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So when a Application locks up and I flip my computer the bird. Will it reconize that as feedback and send it to the appropriate people? I can tell you in my own experience with Kinect. They are already bored with it. I can tell you its amuzing at first but does get old after a while. Same thing happened to the Wii.
@jscott418 That would be nice. Thanks for the input, I'll think about how quickly I'll get bored with it before I think about buying it. happy
@jscott418 Not at our house. The kids and for that matter the parent use it. It's a blast and works great. Espeically if you have a group of people over like my kids do all the time. Of course that would indicate another situation for your house I guess...i'm sorry.
@jscott418
Three in use among my immediate family, and no boredom here!!!
Well this will go nice with the computer I'm building. We keep getting closer to the computer system in Minority Report. I can't wait for that day wink.
@eviscia heh, yeah that sounds cool until you actually make one. UI Research shows that systems like those only look fancy in movies but are untenable for reality simply because of the huge effort required which tires us soon in the long run, most humans being creatures who try to adopt doing stuff the easiest way will end up rejecting it :-/
Im curious in seeing games like Star/War Craft use this tech. Imagine really commanding an Army, gestures and voice vs. pressing buttons, lol.
Very excited for this---programming languages like Max/MSP/Jitter can have a field day with the data to make all kinds of new interactive instruments, controllable by body motion. There are bridges from the XBox version to Max already, but having official support will make it much easier to get started.
Kinnect will usher in a new era of computing and how we interact with computer systems. This is just the beginning!
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It seems to me there are all kinds of places this can and will be used. The surprizing part for me is so many posters in the talkbacks are so limited in their thinking they don't see any practical uses. That says a lot more about the posters than it does about anything produced by MS.
Thanks Microsoft for bringing Kinect to Windows!This would make Windows OS a top choice in many industries:

1) Healthcare
2) Industrial Manufacturing
3) Retail
4) Education
5) Marketing and sales

This device has sold 16 million of units just in 2011 and for gaming industry, when this device reaches all other industries described above, we will see a paradigm in the PC as we use it today.
screw it if you have a vista (hee-hee that's me). Just sitting here wondering if it is feesiable to update now or wait until win 8 comes along. for now, I am so screwed. (big laugh)
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Minority Report
radsdau@... 10th Jan
I'd love to see video editing along these lines. Kinect opens the door in that direction.
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RE: Kinect for Windows: new hardware and software due February 1
neil.postlethwaite@... Updated - 11th Jan
Does the accuracy still suck ??

Every game review I read says the gremlins are still there.

Might be a bit late, as Samsung just launched next gen Smart TV with Voice and gesture control.............

I can kind of get the point with the XBox, but a PC/laptop seems nonsensical to me - as you are right in from of it, with full control. And with W8, touch too.

Nice for people on the TV with big weather maps n'stuff, but normal people - nah.
I'm more curious as to the cost of the software. Where can I learn more about this subject?

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