Microsoft and Sun agree to support each other in virtualized environments

Microsoft and Sun agree to support each other in virtualized environments

Summary: Microsoft will support Solaris as a guest with its virtualization products, and Sun will do the same with Windows as a guest in Sun's virtualization offerings, the pair announced on September 12.

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Microsoft will support Solaris as a guest with its virtualization products, and Sun will do the same with Windows as a guest in Sun's virtualization offerings, the pair announced on September 12.

Sun also announced that is now an official Windows Server OEM with its x64 server line, the companies said on Wednesday. The two will begin selling jointly Windows Server 2003 running on Sun hardware.

In 2004, Sun and Microsoft announced Windows certification for Sun's Xeon servers and said that it expected to seek and obtain Windows certification for Sun's Opteron-based servers, as well.

"One hundred percent of Sun's customers use both Solaris and Windows," said John Fowler, Sun's Executive Vice President of Systems, during a teleconference for press and analysts.

Today's announcements were all part of an extension of the Microsoft-Sun partnership agreement originally announced in 2004.

Solaris already has built-in virtualization with Solaris. Microsoft is planning to add built-in virtualization to Windows Server with its Windows Server Virtualization ("Viridian") hypervisor. Microsoft will deliver a first test release (Community Technology Preview) of Viridian to Windows Server testers -- most likely next week according to sources -- as a built-in part of Windows Server 2008 Release Candidate (RC) 0. When Microsoft ships Windows Server 2008 in the first quarter of 2008, the product will include a beta version of Viridian.

Microsoft seems to have quite a fondness for building "interoperability centers." The Redmond software maker said the pair is constructing an Interoperability Center on the Redmond campus that will be focused around Windows on Sun x64 systems, as well as on other "joint Sun/Microsoft solutions in areas such as databases, e-mail and messaging, virtualization, and Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) support in Sun Ray thin clients."

Microsoft also announced on September 12 that it's building an interoperability center with Novell in Cambridge, Mass.

Microsoft and Sun pledged on September 12 to work together in other areas, including collaborate to advance the worldwide deployment of the Microsoft Mediaroom™ IPTV and multimedia platform on Sun server and storage systems."

Topics: Microsoft, Emerging Tech, Oracle, Virtualization, Windows

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  • At last!

    People have a reason to purchase Sun hardware. One which Sun will not devalue by sacrifice to open source.

    Quoting:

    "Sun also announced that is now an official Windows Server OEM with its x64 server line, the companies said on Wednesday. The two will begin selling jointly Windows Server 2003 running on Sun hardware."

    Phrasing? Is Microsoft going to be a Sun hardware reseller?


    One statement may need correction:

    ?One hundred percent of Sun?s customers use both Solaris and Windows,? said John Fowler, Sun?s Executive Vice President of Systems, during a teleconference for press and analysts.

    [End quote.]

    Undoubtedly 100% of Sun customers use Windows, but do 100% use Solaris?

    I expect there are some users of Linux, not Solaris. And now that Sun is selling Microsoft products, the number of Solaris users among the Sun faithful may be expected to decline even more precipitately.


    [Note: the grain of salt with which you're taking these observations was added intentionally during their preparation.]
    Anton Philidor
    • Temptation...

      I've always kind of lusted after Sun hardware. I know not why, but this is causing a level of temptation in me I last had when I made the change to a Mac :P

      Ok, that being said, it must be pointed out that one of Apple's selling points is to be able to run Windows too. I guess that Sun sees a similar opportunity. Not to say it's going to have a big impact, that'd depend on performance as well as price and emotions.
      zkiwi
    • VAR?

      "Is Microsoft going to be a Sun hardware reseller?"

      Sounds more like Sun is going to be a Windows VAR. I can't see Microsoft getting into any kind of serious server hardware sales. In fact, this is a way for MS to avoid it, while "proving" the openness of Windows.

      Carl Rapson
      rapson
    • Decline of Solaris Users

      We use Red Hat, SLED, SLES, Win2K and WinXP. We will not use Vista and will convert the Redhat box to Solaris 10. Been working with it for 2 months on a SunFire X2100 MP. It is impressive and damn stable. With GNOME as the GUI it looks like Linux but then it has containers, ZFS, LOM, DTRACE and SMC. Add to that all the good manuals that can be downloaded free from the SUN Site. If you want to make money in this business and your end user does not have OS preferences, SUN hardware and Solaris 10 is very attractive. Say what you want about SUN but when it comes to good technology implemented well, SUN still sets the standard.
      petrasys@...
      • Decline of Solaris Users

        Sun?s Solaris DullSpark systems cause businesses so much trouble and conflicts large numbers of Sun?s Solaris DullSpark x-86 users have abandoned SUN for reliable hardware and software. RE: http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid39_gci1268396,00.html

        Currently, Sun is pleading with IBM, Microsoft, and NEC Corp. for technical assistance for resolving the constant conflicts presented by Solaris and hacker-happy open source code.
        havrada_mp@...
  • Apple who?

    snicker :)
    NonZealot
    • What I find interesting...

      ...is that lately we have seen pro-Apple individuals begin to question or even attack Linux, on the basis of how the ability to run on any hardware is actually worse for consumers than closed hardware is. I wonder if now they will start attacking Sun as well? Have you noticed how Apple supporters seem to have become much more outspoken against Microsoft than Linux supporters are? If they do begin to attack Sun, it will probably be from the standpoint of "dealing with the devil". You don't hear that much from the Linux camp any more.

      I wonder what Paul Murphy will say about this. Winsun instead of Wintel? :)

      Carl Rapson
      rapson
      • You are right about Apple/Sun/Linux

        While Sun opens itself up, Apple seems to do the opposite.

        While I like the MacOS X desktop, sometimes there are problems where I would like
        to see under the hood.
        Burana
  • 100% of Sun's customers use both Solaris and Windows?

    I think the percentage is likely high, but I doubt that the figure is 100%. I can easily see a Sun customer running a 100% UNIX shop, maybe using the Sun Rays that Paul Murphy keeps on plugging (remember also that Sun sponsors OpenOffice.org); these days, all of the software that the typical office requires is available for UNIX systems (much to MS' irritation). I could also see the occasional eccentric buying a Sun server and immediately replacing Solaris with Linux or BSD; given how ridiculously arcane Solaris system administration is, that might even be desirable.
    John L. Ries
  • Again, there is very little reason to run two DIFFERENT OSes on a single

    computer. That is only useful for VERY small shops and testing.
    DonnieBoy
    • I would really...

      ...like to use Solaris as the hypervisor (with xen/xVM) for virtual Windows
      instances.

      Solaris will soon provide lot of features for a combination like that, such as:

      -Having Windows-Images on ZFS for Cloning
      -Network Virtualisation/ressource management (limit bandwith for windows
      instances)

      This will especially be interesting for Virtual Desktop Infrastructure.
      Burana
      • Well, I suppose to make up for deficiencies in Windows, you could run the

        Windows as a VM with a Solaris host. But really, better to dump Window if it is that bad.
        DonnieBoy
  • RE: Microsoft and Sun agree to support each other in virtualized environments

    Did you not fully read the entire article regarding Sun and Microsoft?

    Microsoft will not allow Sun to use their new state of the art SQL Server 2008 Software. Instead, Sun is only allowed to use the Microsoft???s technology out-dated SQL Server 2003 Software.

    Remindful of how IBM refused allowing Sun to use IBM???s state of the art ???System-z??? products.

    Suppose Sun is so desperate for using known reliable software that Sun will use old out-dated software merely because anything is better than hacker happy open source software.
    havrada_mp@...
  • VAR? Sun, Microsoft, and IBM

    Why does Microsoft refuse allowing Sun access to their newest state of the art SQL Server 2008 Software?

    Why does Microsoft refuse allowing Sun access to their SQL Server 2005 Software?

    Why does Microsoft *only* allow Sun access to their *oldest available* SQL Server 2003 Software?

    Apparently, Sun Microsystems desperate need for demonstrated reliable software they are reduced for using old technology as out-dated IBM and Microsoft products.

    Suppose anything is better than hacker happy open source code as Solaris; ask TD Ameritrade.
    havrada_mp@...
  • RE: Microsoft and Sun agree to support each other in virtualized environments

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