Microsoft calls Google-Yahoo search pact in Japan anticompetitive

By | July 27, 2010, 11:27am PDT

Microsoft is none too pleased about a newly minted four-year search pact between Google and Yahoo in Japan.

Yahoo Japan on Tuesday said plans to use Google’s search engine and search ad-delivery system. It’s worth noting, as NewsFactor did, that Yahoo owns 35 percent of Yahoo Japan, while distributor SoftBank owns another 39 percent. Financial terms of the four-year, non-exclusive partnership were not disclosed.

Yahoo Japan execs were quoted as saying Microsoft was not yet as far along as Google in the Japanese-language services it offers.

Unsurprisingly, Microsoft disagrees. A Microsoft corporate spokesperson sent me the following statement about the deal on July 27:

“This agreement is even more anticompetitive than Google’s deal with Yahoo! in the United States and Canada that the Department of Justice found to be illegal. The 2008 deal would have locked up 90 percent of paid search advertising. This deal gives Google virtually 100 percent of all searches in Japan, both paid and unpaid. It means there will be no search competition in Japan and that Google will end up controlling all personal search information for all Japanese consumers and businesses.”

Those sound like fighting words. Should we infer Microsoft is poised to file a formal complaint (if it hasn’t done so already)? The same spokesperson said there is “nothing to comment on at the moment.”

Microsoft officials said last week Microsoft has begun providing Bing search results to Yahoo as part of a sweeping search pact forged between Microsoft and Yahoo last year.

Update: Microsoft has posted to its “On the Issues” blog the company’s more detailed take on the Google-Yahoo pact. David Heiner, Microsoft Vice President and Deputy General Counsel, notes:

Google reports that it already received approval from the Japanese Federal Trade Commission for the deal, even before it was announced and before the JFTC reached out to advertisers, publishers and competitors to learn about the likely competitive effects of the deal.  It will be interesting to see over the next few weeks if that is really accurate.”

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  • RE: Microsoft calls Google-Yahoo search pact in Japan anticompetitive
    And Microsoft - Yahoo pact here in the US is competitive just because Bing has significantly lower search query percentage than Google?
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    vkelman@...
    27th Jul 2010
  • Yes (nt)
    @vkelman@...
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    jdakula
    27th Jul 2010
  • MS complaining about monopoly?
    @vkelman@... They've had one for decades with operating systems, office suites and browsers. They are not allowed in search? Better for everyone, as if they were allowed in, innovation would become bloatware like their os, suites and browser.

    History has proven that innovation provides customer satisfaction, look at Goggle, Yahoo out Apple. You look at Microsoft products, all you see is bloat.

    Japan did well in not allowing MS to be part of their search equation, it serves their customers intrest better.
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    Uralbas
    27th Jul 2010
  • Master Joe Says...Uneducated
    @Uralbas You won't agree, but you really are. What an utterly stupid thing to say. And, by thing, I mean your entire post. The dominance of Windows, Office, and IE are in no way shape or form due to anything these days other than user preference. Linux has been around long enough, as has Mac OS, for users to be well aware of them. It's just like saying that AMD gets an unfair minority role in the market because Intel doesn't play by the rules. No. Intel has doubled its quality with every new generation of processors over the past 4 years, and AMD has increased by only half in that time. Intel has a better CPU, and, therefore, has the lion's share of the market.

    Now, the difference here is that Google and Yahoo are the search leaders. If the two leaders form a pact, that is not the same as the 2nd and 3rd place players (Microsoft and Yahoo) forming a pact. That would be like Microsoft and Apple forming a pact to put the final nail in the Linux cofin. There would be countless posts of Linux advocates whining and crying about that. But, since this move is against Microsoft, everyone praises it as good? If there is one thing the tech industry DOESN'T need, it's that kind of thinking or behavior. Not EVERYTHING Microsoft does is evil, nor is it good. Similarly, not EVERYTHING an open source company does is good, just because they are open source. Canonical has its fair share of problems with Ubuntu. And, for all of thsoe who want to argue about the origins of Windows, and the whole being based on technology they "stole" from Apple, might I remind you that Ubuntu is based off of Debian, and that many of the popular Linux distros are based off of other ones, just like Mac OS is a shiny interface on top of a BSD? It isn't very hard to draw these comparisons. The problem is that people deny them because they don't help their own views on the subject. There are plenty more, but I won't waste the time putting ALL of them here, only to have you come up with some ridiculous rant which suggests I am wrong based on no hard evidence at all, or on evidence obtained from such unbias sites as wehatemicrosoft.com and ifmicrosoftcuredcancerwewouldstillhatethem.com

    --Master Joe
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    MasterJoe
    29th Jul 2010
  • RE: Microsoft calls Google-Yahoo search pact in Japan anticompetitive
    And Microsoft can take over Yahoo's search in the US and that is not a problem? If they were really concerned about the search market in Japan, they would have used the relationship they have forged with their search partnership here to get a search deal done for Japan.
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    pcnerd37
    27th Jul 2010
  • RE: Microsoft calls Google-Yahoo search pact in Japan anticompetitive
    @pcnerd37 - Yes! That's Microsoft's point: Since Google owns and controls the vast majority of the search market, them acquiring even more market share and control by doing a deal with the #2/3 in said market is anticompetitive.

    MS had to deal with those realities in the early 2000's. Now Google is going to have to learn them in the early 2010's.
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    de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023
    27th Jul 2010
  • Is MSFT painting themselves into a corner?
    Is it not MSFT and Yahoo who have a deal in North America?

    At any rate they will have to take it up with the Japanese Government, and if so, it makes me wonder if Google with take issue with the MSFT-Yahoo deal here in the states?
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    Snooki_smoosh_smoosh
    27th Jul 2010
  • RE: Microsoft calls Google-Yahoo search pact in Japan anticompetitive
    @JM1981

    Both MSFT and Yahoo togehter don't have nearly of 50% market share. It's far away from being uncompetive. But 100% is definitly a watch for untitrust. We will see...
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    Mr.Gonzo
    27th Jul 2010
  • What a double edge sword we wield.
    @Mr.Gonzo... So 90% market share in the PC market is competitive, but 90% combined share is anti-competitive? hmmm.

    http://www.them.pro/Search-engine-market-share-country

    Basically MSFT is the Pot calling the Kettle black.
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    Snooki_smoosh_smoosh
    28th Jul 2010
  • Global pawn game
    @JM1981
    Basically MSFT is the Pot calling the Kettle black.

    They brought cornering markets, undercutting competition and twisting hesitative arms to an art form. It's how they blueprinted their commercial empire. Now they wanna cry in their soup when the tables turn. Go figure.

    SOS MS
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    klumper
    28th Jul 2010
  • google did take issue with it, and they got told to shut up
    since there was no basis for their whinning. Its all about % of marketshare so MS was right in the us and google is wrong in japan. Its simple arithmetic but you can use a calculator if its beyond your faculties
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    Johnny Vegas
    27th Jul 2010
  • I wish you could apply the same principles to PC marketshare
    Then you might have some credibility here.
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    LTV10
    28th Jul 2010
  • RE: Microsoft calls Google-Yahoo search pact in Japan anticompetitive
    @JM1981
    It would not do them any good, since this has already won approval from the regulators (U.S.)
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    windozefreak
    28th Jul 2010
  • Wait a minute
    MS is complaining that Google and Yahoo Japan are working together, yet Yahoo and MS are working together here? wow, hypocrite.
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    KBot
    27th Jul 2010
  • RE: Microsoft calls Google-Yahoo search pact in Japan anticompetitive
    @KyleDDM
    That's because Bing + Yahoo is a monopoly. Oh wait, no it's not.
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    day2die
    27th Jul 2010

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