Microsoft drops Dryad; puts its big-data bets on Hadoop

By | November 16, 2011, 5:24pm PST

Summary: Microsoft is dropping its ‘Dryad’ big-data processing work and focusing, instead, on developing a Windows Azure and Windows Server implementation of Hadoop.

Just a month after insisting there was still a place for its own Hadoop competitor, Microsoft officials have decided to discontinue work on LINQ to HPC, codenamed “Dryad.”

In a November 11 post on the Windows HPC Team Blog, officials said that Microsoft had provided a minor update to the latest test build of the Dryad code as part of Windows High Performance Computing (HPC) Pack 2008 R2 Service Pack (SP) 3. But they also noted that “this will be the final (Dryad) preview and we do not plan to move forward with a production release.”

Dryad was supposed to provide a way for running big-data jobs across clusters of Windows servers. It was designed to provide a platform for developers to build applications that can process large amounts of unstructured data. Just a month ago, Microsoft updated its near-final test build of Dryad.

But it now appears Microsoft is putting all its big-data eggs in the Hadoop framework basket. Microsoft officials said a month ago that Microsoft was working with Hortonworks  to develop both a Windows Azure and a Windows Server distribution of Hadoop. A Community Technology Preview  (CTP) of the Windows Azure version is due out before the end of this calendar year; the Windows Server test build of Hadoop is due some time in 2012.

From the November 11 HPC Team blog post:

“Hadoop has emerged as a great platform for analyzing unstructured data or large volumes of data at low cost, which aligns well with Microsoft’s vision for its Information Platform.  It also has a vibrant community of users and developers eager to innovate on this platform. Microsoft is keen to not only contribute to this vibrant community, but also help its adoption in the Enterprise.”

Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates first publicly mentioned Dryad, a Microsoft Research project, in 2006. The company took a number of steps to move Dryad from a research effort to a commercial one.

Microsoft’s stated longer-term goal was to combine LINQ to HPC and its parallel-programming tool stack to create an abstraction layer that would allow users to access compute resources — whether they’re located on multicore PCs, servers and/or the cloud. Microsoft officials said that Dryad/LINQ to HPC would be key to helping the company “turn the cloud into a supercomputer.”

In October this year, Microsoft officials said Microsoft’s plan was to continue to work on various alternatives to Java-based Hadoop and MapReduce and that the company was  “still committed” to these efforts. I guess that’s no longer the case.

I’ve asked company officials if there’s anything more to say about Dryad. If there is, I will update this post.

Update: Microsoft officials won’t say anything beyond what’s in the blog post. So no word for those of you asking what Microsoft’s plans are re: big data support for those with .Net experience. That was supposedly what differentiated Dryad from Hadoop — at least according to the Softies a few weeks ago.

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Talkback Most Recent of 20 Talkback(s)

  • RE: Microsoft drops Dryad; puts its big-data bets on Hadoop
    Seems sensible to me. What Microsoft has excelled at in the past is not creating new platforms, but taking existing ones and making them business-friendly.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    susannaking@...
    17th Nov
  • RE: Microsoft drops Dryad; puts its big-data bets on Hadoop
    @susannaking@...

    are you serious? have you heard about win32, .net, asp? MSFT probably has created the world's most widely used platforms in history.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    neonspark
    17th Nov
  • RE: Microsoft drops Dryad; puts its big-data bets on Hadoop
    @neonspark
    are you serious? have you herd about libc, java, html? Non Microsoft companies have create the world's most widely used platforms in history
    ZDNet Gravatar
    jessepollard
    18th Nov
  • RE: Microsoft drops Dryad; puts its big-data bets on Hadoop
    @jessepollard -

    HTML isn't a platform - it's a simple page layout schema.

    Java isn't a platform - it's a programming language & runtime engine.

    Libc isn't a platform - it's the C runtime library.

    If you want to compare Microsoft's platforms, compare Windows NT and all successors (i.e. 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8 along with their server variants) to GNU-Linux (HEAVILY derived from UNIX), BSD, OpenBSD (HEAVILY derived from UNIX), FreeBSD (HEAVILY derived from UNIX), OSX (HEAVILY derived from UNIX & incorporating NeXTStep).

    Out of those, which was the only brand new OS architecture created since 1989? NT.

    While it's true that Microsoft has had remarkable success in turning once bleeding-edge technology into tools and products that the general unwashed masses can not only use, but flourish with, is this such a bad thing?

    SQL Server was infinitely easier to use than Oracle, DB/2, etc. were at the time and delivered great results for most users. Exchange was infinitely easier to scale, deploy, manage and use than cc:Mail, Vines, Notes and Lantastic. Same for ActiveDirectory. Same for Office. Same for Windows.

    THAT is why Microsoft succeeded in putting a computer on every desk and in every home.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    bitcrazed
    18th Nov
  • RE: Microsoft drops Dryad; puts its big-data bets on Hadoop
    this is dissapointing actually. As we have seen with HTML5 which evolves at a glacial pace and nobody can agree on anything, these platforms that are designed by focus groups always end up being a mess of convoluted ideas. I'd much rather have linq to hpc as an alternative to hadoop. maybe google will give us something that has a more clearly defined leadership and roadmap. oh well.
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    neonspark
    17th Nov
  • RE: Microsoft drops Dryad; puts its big-data bets on Hadoop
    The fact that it took almost a week before anyone commented on the drop has to be considered a pretty good indicator that there wasn't much interest in the product.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    curph
    17th Nov
  • RE: Microsoft drops Dryad; puts its big-data bets on Hadoop
    I'd rather go with stable open source platforms that will always be there, not discontinued on a whim. I'm not against proprietary applications, but for platforms, you never know when they are just going to suddenly pull the rug out.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    willyampz
    17th Nov
  • RE: Microsoft drops Dryad; puts its big-data bets on Hadoop
    Dang, I was expecting this to be quite useful for certain informal but computationally intensive apps if it was ever finished. Does Hadoop have the same developer story?
    ZDNet Gravatar
    scH4MMER
    17th Nov
  • Does this have anything to do with Yahoo!
    Yahoo! is Hadoop's major client -- they are essentially powered by Hadoop. Is there any chance that MS is getting ready to port Yahoo to Azure, as it were. Say, if they were to *own* them or something?
    ZDNet Gravatar
    jdakula
    17th Nov
  • Support for Hadoop is the next to drop
    None of this big data frameworks is significantly useful. Cloud is not a sure thing to take off yet.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    LBiege
    17th Nov
  • Doh!
    Another amazing (and superior) technology weighted done and killed by too much bureaucratic nonsense. It would have been great to have had an alternative to Hadoop. Will anyone save us from this elephant!?!? Maybe Splunk?
    ZDNet Gravatar
    msft_spelunker
    17th Nov
  • RE: Microsoft drops Dryad; puts its big-data bets on Hadoop
    @msft_spelunker

    There are many Hadoop alternatives out there. The HPCC Systems platform is among them for tackling Big Data problems. Unlike Hadoop distributions which have only been available since 2009, HPCC is a mature platform, and provides for a data delivery engine together with a data transformation and linking system equivalent to Hadoop. The main advantages over other alternatives are the real-time delivery of data queries and the extremely powerful ECL language programming. For more information visit: http://hpccsystems.com
    ZDNet Gravatar
    H-M
    17th Nov
  • RE: Microsoft drops Dryad; puts its big-data bets on Hadoop
    @msft_spelunker
    Amazing? Superior?
    Wow, a lot of vaporware.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    kirovs@...
    18th Nov
  • RE: Microsoft drops Dryad; puts its big-data bets on Hadoop
    And this changes my life how? Oh, never mind...
    ZDNet Gravatar
    NoAxToGrind
    17th Nov
  • RE: Microsoft drops Dryad; puts its big-data bets on Hadoop
    Reality is that Hadoop has such a great lead and mind share Microsoft has no choice but to embrace and try to catch up. Catching up for Microsoft will be tough because Hadoop is born and bred on Linux and that is where 100% of the early adopters are and that is the road that Enterprise is most likely to follow.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    katsnelson
    17th Nov

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