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Microsoft makes public beta 1 of IE 9 available for download

By | September 15, 2010, 11:03am PDT

Summary: On September 15, Microsoft made the first public beta of Internet Explorer (IE) 9 available for download.

On September 15, Microsoft made the first public beta of Internet Explorer (IE) 9 available for download.

Microsoft has fielded four developer test builds of IE 9 since March. From my sources, I hear there are likely a couple more betas of IE 9 in the pipeline before the final version launches, possibly in April 2011 around the time of the Microsoft Mix 11 conference. (Microsoft is not talking about when or if there will be other betas or when the final will launch.)

Microsoft’s goals with IE 9 include making its browser more standards-compliant, less cluttered and faster. A screen shot and information about the browser, which leaked last month from Microsoft Russia, gave a good indication of what to expect, including the combined address/search bar, tear-off tabs and a much simplified UI.

In promotional materials posted to its Web site earlier today, Microsoft execs noted that “Web browsing is the No. 1 thing people do on their Windows-based PC, and as such, they increasingly expect the same experience they associate with their PC applications from their favorite Web-based e-mail service, photo site or social network site. This kind of immersive experience does not occur on the Web today, and using a browser is often associated with limited performance and interactivity. Microsoft developed Windows Internet Explorer 9 to help change this.”

I recall shortly after IE 8 launched that a number of users, including yours truly, were complaining about how slowly various sites performed in IE 8’s tabs, especially when IE 8 was running on Windows XP. Microsoft officials denied there was a problem, and even went so far as to say that IE 8 was just as fast as Google’s then-newly-launched Chrome browser (which it wasn’t, as anyone running the Chrome beta could see for her/himself).

Since IE 9 won’t work on XP, Microsoft may head off some of its speed issues at the past. Microsoft also has gotten a number of Web site developers and content providers on board early, convincing them to create IE-9-optimized versions of their sites to help improve performance and the overall user experience.

My ZDNet colleague Ed Bott has a review of IE 9 Beta 1 which includes his experiences putting the first public test build through its paces over the past week.

I’d be interested in hearing your impressions if you test drive the IE9 beta. I’ll be sharing mine, as well, once I get a chance to check it out.

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RE: Microsoft makes public beta 1 of IE 9 available for download
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I have it installed...
CPPCrispy 15th Sep 2010
and it is a lot better then the other releases of IE. As a beta, it still has problems. I tried write this comment using IE9 but the "Add Your Opinion" button would not work. Microsoft did a good job with IE9 Beta as this one of the least frustrating experience I have had with IE. Hopefully they make it better by the final release.
I have installed it as well and have two problems with it:

1) No inline spell check. MS says they know that people spend more of their time in the browser. What are they doing there? They are writing. Blog posts, facebook, twitter, forum posts, email, etc. I would be willing to bet that today more stuff gets written in a browser than in word processing programs. Since the browser is a major authoring tool, wouldn't the user experience benefit from spellcheck?

2) Addons don't run in sites pinned to the taskbar. Now a site I would select to pin to my taskbar would be one I used often. Frequently used sites are exactly the ones I want my customizations applied to.
@shollomon
100% with you on the spell-checking. Hopefully it'll be in the future betas or final release.
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@shollomon
You can get in-line spell checking for any IE7/8/9 by installing IE7pro add-on (just google it). It works in identical manner to Firefox and using the same open dictionnaries.
I wrote this message using it with IE9beta, and the good thing is that I didn't have to re-install it or anything after switching from IE8; so far all my add-ons seem to be working flawlessly without any reinstallings.

@ shollomon (I answer here because I can't get to reply your last post)
IE7 Pro got a big problem when IE8 was released, and I agree many of the features still won't work properly with it. Yet I've been using it for years both for the spell-checker and the ad-bloquer and it has been perfectly stable for a long time.
I use both firefox and IE8 (now IE9) in parallel (I like having two browsers because it allows me to have different sessions on many websites) and I really couldn't tell the difference for those two particular features of IE7Pro, which are the only two that I keep active to begin with (everything else can be turned off and is inobstrusive).
@danielgr
IE7 Pro is the most dodgy addon imaginable. I've tried it on several occasions and it is not very good. Spell check is a hit or miss proposition depending on the web site. Its developers are shady and secretive, its message boards are full of nothing but spam, it is sort of maintained but mostly abandoned and many of its features are broken. I wouldn't recommend anyone install it.
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Still lacking Adblock
Cylon Centurion 15th Sep 2010
If IE9 can get Adblock, this browser would be 100% useable, unlike previous IE releases.
@NStalnecker Adblock is easy on IE if not free. 20 bucks for a lifetime license for Adblock Pro, works great on IE9, but not if you have pinned the site to your taskbar, then no addons work.

You might also check Simple Adblock which is free for IE. Its not as good as Adblock Pro, which is not quite as good as Adblock +
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Thanks
Cylon Centurion 15th Sep 2010
@shollomon

I will give it a try.
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@NStalnecker
As with the spell-checker issue, the add-blocker is something that has been provided with IE7pro 100% free add-on since IE7 (and it remains IE8/9 compatible; right now writing without adds from the IE9beta).

It always amazes me how many people has trashed IE for years for lacking features it actually provides. Microsoft simply decided from day one not to focus on things that could be done by third parties...

@shollomon
When was the last time you tried IE7Pro ?
I really don't think it's any worse than any of the other free similar programs. Sure not everything gets filtered, but I have yet to see "the perfect ad-blocker" (never tried the pay ones).

@shollomon
- Regarding pining, I agree right now it's anoying not to get any of the BHOs working when pining a tab to the task bar. Sure hope they sort this out for the final version.
- As for the ad-blocker; It seems that your position is pretty fixed so there is not much I can say. Yet even if IE7pro isn't the best adblocker out there, it still does a decent job, and it's not like if there was "no ad-blocker" for IE. To me it is sure good enough and no deal breaker to choose a browser over another one.
@danielgr
The adblocker is even worse than the spell checker. Many false positives, many leakers.
@danielgr Tried it about two months ago on IE 8. Adblock + on FF is very nearly perfect. Adblock + on Chrome a little less so because they are still working out the kinks given what Chrome's structure lets them do. Adblock Pro (the pay version) is somewhere in between. About the only thing it does less well than Adblock + is repositioning the good material into blank spaces left by ads.

One of the big problems I see with IE 9 is addons and pinning. Lets say I find a decent spell checker that runs as an addon and then I pin Gmail to my task bar and the spell check won't work.
@NStalnecker

I'm using it right now, and have set it as my default. I'm impressed with the speed.

Agree with AdBlock though. And I don't want to be running IE7Pro right now.

Quick Tabs doesn't work. There's an option to enable it but nothing happens if you do.

Also I can't find a setting to restore my session tabs. I'm lazy so I wan't the tabs I've been working on my previous session available when I run IE again.
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Blogger editor tools became inactive
Jayaram Krishnaswamy 15th Sep 2010
Believe me it's cool and nice. But it is Beta 1 and there are some hiccups.
I went to my blog to write about it and I wanted to format and upload images and I could not. All the editor tools got deactivated in this browser.
I had to go back to the Fox to do it. Here is blog on IE 9.0 Beta. It' actually very good, otherwise.
http://hodentek.blogspot.com/2010/09/ie-90-love-at-first-sight.html
The compact/clean UI and improved performance is much appreciated. I love the Pinned Site concept with its support for notifications. I would actually take the concept one step further and support viewing webslices from the taskbar. My gut tells me the intent of this release was to gauge community response. I'm confident we will see at least one more beta before a release candidate. One thing I'm not sure about, is why they chose to create separate icons instead of using the existing Command Bar. They could have created a docking toolbar pane in the same location.
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I can't believe I am saying this, but...
Cylon Centurion 15th Sep 2010
... From what I am seeing here, I think IE9 might be a game changer in the way we interact with browsers. (*gasp!*)

I wonder how Mozilla and Google will respond (Forget Opera).
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@NStalnecker

Google may not be shaken with this much, but Mozilla needs to step it up a bit. As for Opera, I have it installed. I know its supposed to be fast but I find it the slowest in terms of page rendering. On my Win7 laptop and XP PC at work, it takes several seconds more to load a page, even compared to FF 3.6. I still keep it though, cause I'm a geek.
@NStalnecker

I'm having a problem over here with the browser as mine is crashing even running on Vista SP2.

I can't even go to bing which is my default search engine.
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I'm outta here!
mwidunn 15th Sep 2010
Mary-Jo Foley wrote: "Since IE9 won't work on XP, . . . "

So, . . . what? MSFT is now using its browser to force people to upgrade OS's? Nice. Firefox is looking better and better as an alternative.
@mwidunn
Well.. XP IS almost 10 years old and their support for it is going to disappear soon. So this is pretty normal... I would advise you use Chrome (at least until the next Firefox comes out) because firefox has a very slow startup on older XP machines. Windows 7 is great thought! Look into it
@mwidunn

I would rather MS spend their resources on development that take advantage of the current features that the current OSes support rather than waste time trying to prop up a 10 year old OS just because people can't let go. The time is long overdue to move on.

If XP works for you, why can't you also use a 10 year old browser to go along with it?
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Well said Qbt.
Cylon Centurion Updated - 15th Sep 2010
@mwidunn

It's not their fault you and others refuse to move on. Microsoft simply can't support XP forever, and I had mentioned in another post that I am happy to see the foot come down. To support a 10 year old OS is wasting resources that are better allocated to working on future technologies.
@mwidunn

Yep doesn't work on Win 3.1 or MSDOS either - what was MS thinking?

@mwidunn You know I agree with you, I am so mad too that Nissan will not put an updated engine and wheels on my 2000 Altima, instead they want me to get a new one!! Damn them. lol
@Djblois
Not only that, they also made you pay for your first Altima to begin with, they protect their IP with patents instead of sharing it with others ...
I want my free and open-source car right now !!!
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What's worse is
Cylon Centurion 16th Sep 2010
@danielgr

That should you want to upgrade to a new car, you'll have to pay for that one as well. That completely sickens me. sad
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I'm impressed
tonymcs@... 15th Sep 2010
Fast, great, lean design - enjoying it. Now I can finally test our web applications that use HTML 5 without worrying about Apple's restrictions in its broken browser.
I would actually take the concept one step further and support viewing webslices from the taskbar. My gut tells me the intent of this release was to gauge community response.
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@nikicheng
Yeah, that's definitely something I hope to see in the future version. Another would be pinning "sets of tabs" (like a related browser session). It shouldn't be very difficult for them and would be great for people like me.
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not all that exciting but fine . . .
hansonjb 16th Sep 2010
i installed ie 9 on my other computer; my other computers have ie8 on windows 7. it is fine. it does have a cleaner interface although the tabs use the same see through 'coloring' and so are hard to see.

you have to use ctrl + t to open a new tab (ctrl + n opens a new window). not an issue but something i noticed.

speedwise--some pages were snappier, others weren't--they were slower. google images isn't showing the 2nd and further pages of pictures.

one thing i'm not a big fan of--the download manager at least as far as i can tell. in ie 8, you download a file and it immediately asks you if you want to open the file after downloading; now, you have to go through 2 steps at another location on the screen to open the file. sad

i like the stuff they are doing with ie 9 for standards compliance but as a day to day to user, it just doesn't do that much for me. to be honest, ie 8 on windows 7 is really good (it was kind of slow on vista).
@hansonjb

re: Download Manager
you're still asked if you want to run a download or save it, albeit not with the traditional message/confirm box. Instead now, the confirmation is located on the lower portion of the screen. No added steps, just different, and IMO better.
I think IE9 might be a game changer in the way we interact with browsers.

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