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Microsoft quietly tests a new "pay-as-you-go" rental scheme for Office

By | January 30, 2007, 1:17pm PST

Summary: Microsoft has been testing quietly a new “pay-as-you-go” rental program for Office 2003 in South Africa, Mexico and Romania, and will decide in the next couple of months whether to extend the program to include Office 2007.

Would you pay $15 a month to use Microsoft Office 2003?

Some users, who are helping Microsoft test whether renting Office might be preferable to buying it for certain groups of customers, say they would.

Microsoft has been testing quietly a new "pay-as-you-go" rental program for Office 2003 in South Africa, Mexico and Romania, and will decide in the next couple of months whether to extend the program to include Office 2007.

While some Microsoft critics have faulted Microsoft for continuing to push Office as a fat-client app (with optional service add-ons) at a time when a number of the company's competitors are advocating that office applications be made available as services.

Microsoft already has been testing a similar pay-as-you-go program for Windows, known as FlexGo, in a handful of developing countries since last May. Under FlexGo, Microsoft and partners — including AMD, HSBC Bank Brasil, Infineon Technologies, Intel, Lenovo, Phoenix Technologies and Transmeta — allow users to buy PC usage time using prepaid cards similar to those sold by cell-phone makers in various countries.

In the "Office Prepaid Trial," Microsoft is relying on system builders to sell users cards that provide them three months' worth of Office 2003 usage for a set fee, said Chris Capossela, a corporate vice president with Microsoft's Business division. With FlexGo, an entire PC system — hardware and software — is leased; with the Office Prepaid Trial program, only Office (either Office Small Business or Office Student and Teachers Edition) is rented out, Capossela explained.

Under terms of the Office Prepaid Trial, users must return to the system builders who sold them their original PC in order to purchase another three-month incremental of Office-rental time. If a user decides against re-upping, the version of Office 2003 that is on the user's PC goes into reduced functionality mode, providing users with nothing more than the ability to view documents.

Capossela said the four-month-old Office Prepaid Trial has been really successful in South Africa and Romania, but not as well received in Mexico. He said he wasn't sure yet what accounted for the differences in user reception of the trials.

Capossela added that Microsoft will be reviewing some time in the next couple of months the feedback it has received as part of the trial and will decide then whether to extend it to other countries and whether to add Office 2007 to the list of rentable Office SKUs.

Capossela also noted that Microsoft is planning to add Office to its FlexGo pilot program the next time that the company refreshes the products that are part of the FlexGo bundle. Currently, FlexGo covers Windows and PC hardware only. In the next round of trials, users will be able to lease a single bundle including hardware, Windows and Office.

Microsoft's goal with all of these Office trials is to test new ways of generating Office revenues in addition to the existing Office sales channels, Capossela said.

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RE: Microsoft quietly tests a new 'pay-as-you-go' rental scheme for Office
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Blech...
Tony Agudo 30th Jan 2007
There's no way this Office rental scheme would be a real success if this is going to be foisted on real home users, unless if it's done more like a leasing program. Make enough payments, and the Office/Operating System is yours to keep. Otherwise those users would rather just use a free alternative(OpenOffice.org/Linux) and save a lot of money.
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$15 a month is WAY too expensive...
BitTwiddler 30th Jan 2007
That's most of a phone line. Half of a broadband connection. A Co-Pay on a prescription.

Office is, well, office. I'm not paying anyone $15 a month to write letters or check email.
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agreed ... WAY too expensive
David A. Pimentel 31st Jan 2007
Consider, if you will, that I am not unique in keeping the same version of office for at least four years. Consider a retail price (which is way more than I paid) of approximately $450 (USD), that would work out to be $9.38 per month. Given the facts that there are many pricing options available (reduced functionality, OEM, etc.) and we aren't even considering time-devaluation of money, $15 would just be another means of price gouging the consumer.

NOTE: $450 is a conservative estimate of Office 2007 Professional found at www.amazon.com.
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Oh come on, Setting Standards
mighetto 31st Jan 2007
Lets get grounded in the now.

Lets recognize that Microsoft has in the past tried to set standards rather than follow what IT professionals have agreed to used. Lets suppose that right now Neukom and his American Bar Association are lobbying US courts to change rules regarding evidence submission. Lets assume that because Neukom is part of the Gates crime family that the lobbying emphasizes new Microsoft document formats. If successful all the Open Office and Word Perfect users will have need for renting a Microsoft tool from time to time in order to submite evidence to a court of law.

Lets suppose the effort fails because when it comes to decisions regarding information technology the American Bar Association is out of line to pretend it has competency. Lets suppose that IT professionals start working the US courts so that evidence is submitted in Open Document Format and PDF.

Rise American Programmers
friends of the courts
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AGREE
usrhlp 5th Feb 2007
i totally and utterly agree!!

if they are talking about 2 dollars per month that is more the amount they should be charging, esp when open office is free!
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Sounds like one more way
Linux User 147560 30th Jan 2007
a corporation is trying to leech $$$ out of consumers pockets. As if we don't rent enough and pay enough fees and fines!? devil

What a stupid idea!
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Mike Cox had better break out that...
Cardinal_Bill 30th Jan 2007
bottle of ether to use on the CFO. Hmmm....a hundred people in the accounting department X $15 a month is $6,000 a year. Then you add in the CEO who has several copies for his staff (what, you expect him to read/write his own mail?)...the rest of the administrative folks...Criminey, that adds up fast! Wonder how long it would take to run GM out of business doing this?
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In some enviroments
mrjonno 30th Jan 2007
That could be cheaper than buying, in the same way it can be cheaper to lease computers, not to mention possible tax advantages

Short term hire. trial access of software. Yes its more expensive than pirating software which is what i suspect a lot of people on these groups do
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you really do?
Gene(ius):) 31st Jan 2007
I think most people have original copies of the Office.
So do not assume most people are crooks.

I suggest to run old 95/97 Offices if you can... the new stuff is simply not worth
the dollars just to write letters...

I did not get any better benefits out of MSWord for Office 2000, 2004 - just a
waste of money.

I guess to move to OpenOffice would be a better solution. Corporation should
support it, so we no longer have to deal with such crappy issues.
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What a limited persepective...
Wolfie2K3 31st Jan 2007


I suggest to run old 95/97 Offices if you can... the new stuff is simply not worth the dollars just to write letters...

I did not get any better benefits out of MSWord for Office 2000, 2004 - just a waste of money.


Just because YOU, personally didn't see any benefit from an upgrade from Office 95 to 2003 (NOT 2004), doesn't mean the rest of the universe didn't get anything out of it.

Word is more than just a tool to write letters. Word has a rather nicely developed macro facility that allows all manner of office automation that neither OpenOffice nor WordPerfect can match. While it IS true that the very same macro facility can be abused when some scum sucking lowlifes use it to create viruses, the automation facility can be VERY useful.

The problem with Office 97 and earlier versions no longer work as the macro language DID change. Links with various apps require newer versions of Office.

Word also has a unique ability to be manipulated by other applications - such as FaxRush - a fax server application that uses Word to manipulate templates to create cover pages and other documents. The current versions of that product do NOT support anything before Office 2000.

Just because YOU didn't get anything out of it, doesn't mean it's worthless or a waste of money.

I guess to move to OpenOffice would be a better solution. Corporation should support it, so we no longer have to deal with such crappy issues.

OpenOffice might be fine for SOME users, but it's NOT a universal panacea. Some Word documents do NOT get opened correctly. Complex tables get reformatted into a bloody mess and do not look ANYWHERE close to the way they were designed to look in Word. So it's fine if you're just banging out simple letters and the like but when you get into anything more complex - fuggetaboutit...
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Uh uh...
bixbyru@... 31st Jan 2007
Actually, while the macro facility in OOo differs from that in Word (apparently the only "valid" facility, by your lights) it's equally powerful.

Word also mangles WP documents, and even docs from other versions of Word.

OOo is still evolving, but if one standardizes on it they will do well - and in perpetuity.

If doc exchange must occur between users of OOo and Gates Groupies, OOo exports rather nice Word files.

Don't ***** about how other programmes fail to interoperate with Office; it was designed not to play nicely with others.

Bix
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A thief always suspects everyone else is a
thief.
That would suggest that you are a .....what?

Sorry to rag you, but you shouldn't accuse
anyone of being a thief unless you have some
evidence that they are. If you do, then
present the evidence, don't just hurl empty
accusations. (my 2 cents)

p://www.channelinsider.com/article/Compatibility+Concerns+Hinder+Vista+Upgrades+IT+Pros+Say/199391_1.aspx?kc=CITCIEMNL012507STR1
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A pay as you go model might make sense for some, but not a per-month rate. Again, think of it like a cell phone. If I use Office for a few hours a week, should I pay the same rate as someone who has office going full tilt all day long, eight hours a day? If, on the other hand, my "card" has "Office application minutes," and I deplete the card as I use each office application, it might make sense. If I have Word, Excel, and Outlook all running, I'd be burning minutes faster than if I just check my email a few times a day.

This might even make economic sense for Microsoft. There are probably an enormous number of folks out there who might use Office now and then, but don't think it worth the up-front costs right now. Being able to buy Office Time as needed would make perfect sense. At some point in the process, the number of minutes used would add up to being cheaper than just buying the product. (You might even have a "rent to own" option!)

The all-or-nothing model of software marketing probably puts off as many folks as it ropes in. Thinking more broadly makes sense.
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A per-minute model only works ...
mwagner@... 31st Jan 2007
... if MS can monitor it constantly. That's possible via an on-line delivery model but not much good if you have the code installed on your machine.
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You are a clever individual.
bixbyru@... 31st Jan 2007
'Nuff said.
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Let's see ...
mwagner@... 31st Jan 2007
... $15 per month over four years (Office 2003 to Office 2007) comes to $720 for the lifetime of Office 2003. That's about twice retail, isn't it? Why would anybody do that except on a trial basis to determine if they wanted to move to Offce from a competitor's product? After all, onces you're in, you're in! There's really no going back so you might as well BUY instead of leasing.
... $15 per month over four years (Office 2003 to Office 2007) comes to $720 for the lifetime of Office 2003. That's about twice retail, isn't it? Why would anybody do that except on a trial basis to determine if they wanted to move to Offce from a competitor's product? After all, onces you're in, you're in! There's really no going back so you might as well BUY instead of leasing.

While I agree with you as far as the price for this rental is astronomically high, why would anyone want to spend 15 bucks a month to test Office when Microsoft is already providing the 60 day trial of Office 2003 and 2007 for FREE?

I think the "FREE" carrot is more appetizing than the same carrot for $30.00 - especially if the goal is to get you to buy the full product.
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Rent software? Gotta be...
bixbyru@... 31st Jan 2007
...#$*%ing kidding! I'd sooner eat a battery.

For the Nth time, MS has gone "too far," but that'll likely not get regular Joes riled. So, siree.

They'll just pay their MS tax, "upgrade" regularly and chew their cud.

One might just keep the system they have, or switch to Mac, Linux, BSD et cetera. One might take the reins of their own life.

M'self, I dumped MS '91 - well before 'twas fashionable to do so. Since '93 I've used and developed for Linux, and have no regrets.

Y'know, a lot of the "Is Linux erady for users?" malarkey centres about the differences between Windows and any Linux distribution.

Yeah, it's a little less dummy-friendly, but the parts most people use work just as well as MS' offerings. Further, it actually evolves and is regularly improved as differentiated from Windows with its occasional spit and polish changes - which are mostly spit.

If people were more like the "greatest generation," which in personal computer terms was the '70's - a time when people (and not just engineers) bought the things and taught themselves to use 'em - then this would be a non-issue.

These days, plonkers expect to bring the packing case home and set it on the floor, at which point their computer'll unpack itself, waddle over to an outlet and plug itself in, then jack into the 'phone line and dial up AOL.

If these bloody, ignorant apes would face a five degree learning incline, then they'd own their own data, programmes and futures.

I guess people get basically the computing environment and expenses they deserve, and if they're willing to give up essential freedoms and security in exchange for a little temporary convenience, then they deserve neither freedom, security nor convenience.

The computing world was a far better place before the bar was lowered to the point of being inlay.

Bix, geek of the plains

Power without wisdom is akin to an adze with a ruined edge, sited more to the vandal than the builder.
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They've only gone TOO FAR if ...
mwagner@... 31st Jan 2007
... their 'bread and butter' customers rebel. So far, that's not happened. MS has tried it's share of 'trial baloons' in the past and often backs off then their loyal following says NO! Most people can download OpenOffice for free and have everythign they actually USE in MS Office BUT THE DON'T so to say that MS has gone too far is simply not correct.
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Hence...
bixbyru@... 31st Jan 2007
...my commant "for the Nth time." In other words, "too far" is my take, but if it doesn't scuttel MS then it's not too far.

Humour, y'know...

Bix
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No thank you
jdhowe 31st Jan 2007
Microsoft forgets that geeks like myself like to own our software (or at least, apparently, have the appearance of ownership =P). While I very much dislike the notion of trapping both my software and hardware under one banner, my laboratory has, in th last month, gone entirely from 15 years of windows/office/intel to OS-X and open office. All database apps have been migrated from Access and SQL-Server to MySQL...We like the Microsoft but they just don't get it anymore. By the way...the migration was easy and we are done, done and done without a single hitch. Buh-bye Bill, et al.
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One of the perceived advantages of SQL-Server is support. Decision makers I deal with are reluctant to move to MySQL for enterprise data because of the perception that Microsoft can be called on to support SQL Server and there is no vendor supporting MySQL.

In reallity these decision makers get support from Oracle USA for SQL Server and I understand that Oracle USA owns the database engine for MySQL so the support vendor wouldn't change.

Of course there is also Oracle 9i in the mix and my gut tells me that if you were going to standardize on just one database for enterprise data that it would be Oracle 10. Again the support vendor wouldn't change.

Microsoft was kind enough to have me at an Interoperablity Seminar for Oracle DBAs - even though I am not one. I thought the presentation ballanced and have concluded that the notion of one database management system for all enterprise data is a poor one. You can adminster both Microsoft SQL server and Oracle from the Enterprise Manger software provided by Oracle or provided by Microsoft. Database Management Systems are not yet commodities. The effort of converting from one to the other may not be cost justifyable.

Anyway. If you have outside suppor for MySQL is that support from Oracle USA. I understand that a single support contract covers all Oracle database systems and that that includes Berkeley and MySLQ as well as all flavors of Microsoft SQL Server.

Frank
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Frank
jdhowe 31st Jan 2007
Our university provides my support services directly and I have not had a need to go beyond them. I understand that such support is licensed. The answer to single-sourcing database support is well taken for large enterprise endeavors. However, we are a university laboratory with research database requirements. Almost all of our medical and other biological labs are now using MySQL by personal choice of the prime investigators. This seems to be a popular choice because it affords us increased flexibility between hosting platforms (some of us have laboratory servers in addition to dedicated access to campus linux-based servers). Campus licensing provides us with access to SQL-Server and Oracle DBMS access and support as well. None of these shares the scalability or flexibility of the MySQL solution (small footprint with large capability for a very reasonable price with or without support).

Jon
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re: No thank you
richdave 31st Jan 2007
>>>...gone entirely from 15 years of windows/office/intel to OS-X and open office...

That was a smart move. Say, a smart fella like you can appreciate this. I have this bridge I need to sell. You can build toll booths on each side and make a lot of money.
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Would that bridge be called...
bixbyru@... 31st Jan 2007
...Vista?
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Interesting line in the story
compudiva 31st Jan 2007
I noticed that in the article, a renter cannot renew unless they go back to whoever built their PC to begin with. Fine if one owns a major branded "supermarket" computer, but what of smaller companies? What if the local vendor goes out of business? According to the article, your functionality reduces to only being able to view your material. I sense an unspoken threat that one's documents could be "locked" into a view-only mode no matter what program one attempts to view them with (perhaps with a passcode that only MS could provide with renewal?).

Not worthy of serious consideration!
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Excellent idea for "Power Users"
mighetto 31st Jan 2007
No system analyst worth his/her fees is going to find that a knowledge worker needs all functions in a suite like Microsoft Office.

Nonetheless, there are "Power Users" who think otherwise and at many organizations (government and legal being great examples) the potential harm done by creating two groups of workers (them that have and them that do not) and the extra process needed in justifying who gets and who doesn't is more trouble than the decision maker wants to take on. This is why enterprise purchases happen. Everyone gets and they all get the same.

But any system analyst worth his or her fees is going to point out that you do not what knowledge workers "playing around" instead of getting real work done. You are not paying all these workers to build up skills in photography and web page design for example.

Neither are you paying all of them to become proficient in making pie charts and power point presentations.

In general knowledge workers are paid for more narrowly defined skills than those supported by the full suite of Microsoft Office. Giving these workers an entire suite just encourages them to explore and learn tools that they may never ligitimately use at the office. They may of course use them at their next job or at home. Think about that US army general who banned power point presentations. You do not want highly paid workers fiddling with the kind of stuff that should have been delegated.

Nonetheless, from time to time a worker may be asked to do a special project where a tool or two out of the suite can help. This pay-as-you-go rental model is great for that. It also is great for eliminating a lot of what is called "piracy" and for establishing how much was actually stollen by a law or government office found to have more product installed than licensed.

For developers, it clarifies that future software design must be oriented towards industry standards - Open Document formant and PDF and Open Office - rather than towards an office suit from IBM, Microsoft, Novell, or WordPerfect.

Frank L. Mighetto CCP
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Can I Do A Rent-To-Own?
cpuguy1 31st Jan 2007
After so many months - 12 month ... maybe less - then program and ID number (to get program to work) is mine to own.
But $15/month is a bit steep.
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In the pipeline
markhaslam82@... 31st Jan 2007
A few companies have been thinking of this type of leasing idea for a while to combat piracy, but in terms of a yearly lease instead of monthly. Hopefully the tests will backfire as i dont want to keep paying for the same software.
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Writing on the wall
TICKLEMEDEAD 31st Jan 2007
MS knows that the cash cow is slowing dying, so they are trying different ways of monetizing their software.
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$15 for
wizardb@... 31st Jan 2007
The whole package is all the full blown install is worth,per month $.15 maybe still a bit expensive I think.
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The Office Is Now Closed
LegendsOfBatman 31st Jan 2007
MS has been pondering this option for several years now for both Office and OS's.
Many of you here are MS bashers. Well, if this does ever happen here's more fuel for your fires.
I've used several versions of several office suites; mostly due to the amount, and my inability to pay for Office. I cant say I love Office, but, I cant say I hate Office, either. There's certain features and bugs I wish would get fixed, and be more flexible to allow users to do certain things.
Right now, I find Open Office to be a very nice equivelent to Office.
I find it interesting MS seems to want to increase revenues, and find charging monthly fees would do this. Sure, fanboys might be willing to do this, but, at 15 a month, that works out to be over $700 for 4 years. Much too expensive.
But, what if the price were reasonable? $10 a month? $5 a month?
$10 is more reasonable; but still would be $480 for 4 years. $5 would be much more affordable, and closer to what we pay. Even if MS wanted a bit more, and charged $7 a month that would be more reasonable, and would be $336. But, even still, is this a good idea?
NO! Sure, it'd be easier to pay $15-45 at a time, than say $300 all at once. But, after that, I cant see it being beneficial to anyone. Well, anyone other than MS.
MS isnt known for being exactly flawless. I would think this would be a huge headache for users. Imagine you are typing away for an important report for work in 5 hours, and MS somehow thinks your subscription ran out. Since it's probably 3am and this glitch (err, feature) just happened, what are the chances of getting someone at MS at 3am? None?
Wait; let's give MS some undue credit. Lets say our monthly fee is going to pay for 24/7 tech support (Ok, I'll pause a bit, while you gather your composure, from laughing so hard). But, let's pretend this is the case. We STILL have to get these overpaid, underbrained reps to realize that it is a MS glitch. typical reps would respond with an annoying, "I'm sorry for the inconvenience, I'll be glad to help you with that..... There's nothing I can do. You'll have to call again at 9am".
And, then there is the legit cut-off, where you forgot it was due at that precise minute. Now, you have to hope you arent short on funds, and can pay it. (Thankfully, I dont have that worry-- but, I have in the past; and I know many people do).
What if it's a student, and they have to have their parent's permission? (New twist on the old "The dog ate the homework" excuse. More like, "The MS pigs ate the homework").
Then, what happens if our systems crash? Will we get to install the software, or, will we have to pay again? What happens if we upgrade? These are all realistic possibilities. So, we must consider them.
And, even if none of these scenarios were to happen (ok, I'll give you time to get off the floor again) who's to say it'd be unintrusive. Would the subscriptions renew automatically, and we would never know of an issue; or, would we get stopped and told we need to renew? Then, would we be directed to send an electronic payment? But, wait. We are told we have to return to where we bought the computer? Do we then have to load the computer and take it back to an incompetent store? At 3am?
And, we have to pay this each month, or, every 3 months? Even if we bring only a card, it's still a pain.
Suppose I buy my computer from Fry's? The closest one to me is an hour's drive.
Oh wait; I get mine built. So now what? Do I get to pay myself to renew my subscription? Cool. I suppose at this point, I'd be lucky, because I would have the chance to get it from Walmart. Theyre typically open 24 hours-- but, what if that glitch thing happens on Christmas night, and that report is due 8am?
Now, Amazon and online retailers sell these too. Many of these guys are slow on the draw for email support. Amazon hides their phone number, so they wont be bothered by us. So, will we have to wait 24-48 hours for their response? Then, 24-48 more hours?
Hopefully, they'd have a system to where we can just pay.
But, what if they no longer are in business? As one poster asked?
I would hope it isnt this much of a pain. But, who is willing to bet the farm on it? I'm not. And, remember, I'm not an anti-MS person. Not like many of you guys here. I'm just asking questions; and, I dont like the potential answers.
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Microsoft Rental
tamrac@... 31st Jan 2007
I would tell them to stick it where it belongs, and move to Apple. The rental fees would make up for the change.
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There's MS Office...
bixbyru@... 1st Feb 2007
...for Mac. Even MS admits that it's better than the Windows version.

How 'bout Mac w/OOo?

Bix
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$15 per month? Let's see now
Savemyboat 31st Jan 2007
$15 per month? Let's see now. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!! Is this another Microsoft joke?
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MICROSOFT GETS FREE HELP?
BALTHOR 31st Jan 2007
These Microsoft users are helping Microsoft(one of the wealthiest corporations on the earth)by testing this software rental idea.Let's say that by some miracle I figure out how to write software.I haven't seen the VB approach to software writing work yet.It looks like C++ is script.I write a program like Office and rent it to one million customers at fifteen dollars a month for one year.Where's fair trade?Your company needs this software to function.Very few people can write software.This isn't college taught computer programming this is software writing.
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I Will Never Rent Software
chessmen 31st Jan 2007
Can you imagine paying $180 per pc per year to create spreadsheet and word processing documents? Microsoft is clearly getting greedy.
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You already do
Chad_z 1st Feb 2007
If you run Windows you already rent software. You may pay your rental fees up front but you certainly don't own it.

Microsoft is clearly getting greedy.

They've been getting greedy for a long time, it's just becoming more obvious as MSFT becomes more callous about it.

You're at the receiving end of the need to increase quarterly numbers. Raise what you squeeze out of the average user by just a few dollars on average and that translates into billions in profits.

Overall I like it when MSFT insults and abuses their customers. OpenOffice is already looking more attractive to many businesses and every time Redmond gets stupid, I get more billing discussing options for reducing MSFT components in the enterprise. Easy money. It's a little conflicting because it's also easy money fixing Microcrap projects.
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No way Jose!
chittick@... 31st Jan 2007
I buy software - I will NEVER rent it! And $15 per month is most unreasonable. I think Microsoft has garnered enough wealth through legitimate sales, and should keep out of the rental business.
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If you really cant see the advantage
mrjonno 31st Jan 2007
of spending $/?700 over 4 years compared to paying $/?350 straight away then you really have no concept of business.
That's 350 that doesnt come out of your cash flow, allowing you possible to invest in other things like staff.

I suspect the people moaning this are just the normal thieves (pirate is too soft a word) who don't pay anything anyway
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I suspect that anyone who suspects
Ole Man 31st Jan 2007
That other people are thieves, without any
evidence, are probably theives themselves.

http://www.cptech.org/ms/harm.html
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Really?
bixbyru@... 1st Feb 2007
Why would "thieves" complain about a thing which was of no concern to them? MS isn't talking about the stoppage of sales, so there'll still be pirate-ware available.

No, we're bemoaning the 18% interest represented by not-buying on time, presupposing that MS DOES provide an "upgrade" five years hence.

Some of us care when we see a wrong, and even take steps to remedy it, rather than caring only about ourselves.

You, however, would seem to fall into the latter category.

Bix
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Pay per function
THEE WOLF 31st Jan 2007
Why not allow people to purchase the functionality vs. time. For example basic Word and Excel can be yours for say $50, additional functionality would run say $10 for pivot tables and advanced merging, etc.

I like MS products, but $15 per month seems ridiculous. The day will come when this will be all rolled into your online bill from your broadband provider so you won't have a seperate charge, etc.

Think of basic cable, vs digital, vs HD, vs OnDemand.
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At $5 per month, it makes perfect sense. In fact, Microsoft would probably make more money than selling it directly to consumers via an OEM sale. That's $60 per year; $180 over three years. I'm fairly confident that's more revenue than Microsoft gets from an OEM install. Yep, it's less than retail. But, how many people buy the software retail, probably not that many.

With the right pricing strategy, they could make upgrades easier to swallow. After three years, the monthly fee increases just a dollar or two. Add another two years of revenue at $144 - total of $332 over a five year period. You get the new version for $5 per month. Why stay with the older version for more money?

Software as a subscription makes sense. Years ago, Borland built a business on this principle. At $49, it was worth the risk. And, you knew you would have to upgrade the next year anyway.
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Could possibly be a good thing
ewashi55422@... 31st Jan 2007
Some people cant afford to purchase the software at 200 dollars and up at one time notice the countries they are targeting.But if they were to add that they can rent up to the purchase price and keep the software it could possibly be helpful for some students paying their way through college on their own. I remember going to the library with 2 kids when I was in college because I couldn't afford a computer.
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They're not talking RTO
bixbyru@... 1st Feb 2007
Say I rent a flat for $500 per month, and that the value of the rental is $125,000.

Is the landlord going to let me have the place once I've lived there for 20 years and 10 months?

I think not.

Bix
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who in their right mind
thedudeistoocool@... 1st Feb 2007
Is going to rent a $125,000.00 flat for $500
A landloard who wants to LOSE money ?
I don't think so.

I think the appropriate rate would be $1500.00 minimum
Afterall the landlord has to cover mortgage, taxes, insurance, and any necessary maintenance (unless they're a slum lord)

IMHO
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Actually, that's about right
bixbyru@... 2nd Feb 2007
Typically, a low-end house that rents for $500 is worth between $100,000 and $125,000 - at least 'round here for a low-end house which is fully paid off and in a so-so neighbourhood.

Nonetheless, my main point holds, O thou quibbler.

Bix
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What about
I. Kidya Knott 1st Feb 2007
all those "rent to own" outfits. Pay a monthly or weekly fee and when you've paid about 1.5 times the value it's yours.
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There's A Sucker Born Every Minute
Ole Man 31st Jan 2007
And that's how Microshaft makes their money.

I say no to any scheme they come up with
before I hear what it is.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3513_7-6689143-1.html?tag=nl.e501
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