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Microsoft readies new Express version of its IIS Web server

By Mary Jo Foley | June 29, 2010, 6:47am PDT

Microsoft is readying a first public beta of a new Web server, known as IIS Express.

The IIS Express release “combines the use of the Microsoft ASP.Net Web Server with the full power of IIS,” which is integrated into Windows, according to a June 28 blog post by Microsoft Corporate Vice President of the .Net Developer platform Scott Guthrie.

Guthrie said the first public beta of IIS Express was very close, but didn’t provide an exact delivery date. He also didn’t provide a final delivery target. If IIS Express is like Microsoft’s other Express products, it should be free.

Guthrie did say to expect the IIS Express product to be lightweight (less than 10 MB download) and “super quick” to install. He said the new IIS relealse won’t require an administrator account to run/debug applications from Visual Studio. The product will include a “full web-server feature set,” Guthrie said, including SSL, URL Rewrite, Media Support and “all other IIS 7.X modules.” It will be able to be installed side-by-side with the full IIS Web server and the ASP.Net Development Server.

The new SKU will work on Windows XP and other flavors of Windows relealsed since then. The product will be able to be used within Visual Studio 2010 and 2008, Guthrie said. Microsoft is planning to release a patch for Visual Studio 2010 and Visual Web Developer 2010 Express later this year that will enable developers to automatically launch and use IIS Express in place of the built-in ASP.Net Developer Server, Guthrie said. The gameplan is for future Visual Studio releases to ship with this functionality built in, Guthrie added.

Independent consultant and software development expert Ted Neward tweeted that the Express version of IIS was “Tomcat.Net.” (Tomcat is a popular Java Web server from the Apache Foundation.)

“The fact that (Microsoft) are answering their developers and bridging the gap to allow developers to have an instant setup IIS installation is cause for excitement indeed,” blogged Doug Rathbone, a Web application consultant. “Most developers i know that have hit a wall working with the built in Visual Studio web server and its limitations have had to use an alternative such as (the ASP.Net Web server) Cassini.”

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Hooray!

npiaseck 29th Jun 2010

FINALLY! Testing a Web application on multiple versions of IIS has been a royal pain up until now, since it meant testing on multiple operating systems.

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This is so funny

Richard Flude 29th Jun 2010

Enterprise ready;-)

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RE: Microsoft readies new Express version of its IIS Web server

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No power in .NET or IIS

itguy08 29th Jun 2010

Just garbage like everything from Microsoft.

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Actually no thats just FUD. IIS7x is both the most secure/fastest webserver

Johnny Vegas 29th Jun 2010

and asp.net perf is better than any java web app platform.

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Yes, IIS and .NET are the best... NOT!!!

OS Reload Updated - 29th Jun 2010

@Johnny Vegas

With the exception of Microsoft itself there's not a single big Internet player that uses Microsoft. Not a single one.

That's very telling, don't you agree?

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@OS Pantload. Unfortunately thats just more weak FUD, its not true.

Johnny Vegas 29th Jun 2010

There are lots of other "big internet" sites that use IIS. Like ebay. And MySpace. And btw MS sites account for a huge chunk of all internet traffic so running those is impressive. Did you know that hotmail has more than twice and many users as gmail?

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Yes, you're loaded. Congratulations!

OS Reload Updated - 29th Jun 2010

@Johnny Vegas

I love your 'arguments' (warning: I love twisted humor.)

MySpace and ebay? Really??

Is anything wrong with Facebook and Google, or Amazon?

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Hey Microsoft Boiz stop flagging me, you're abusing the system

OS Reload Updated - 29th Jun 2010

@Johnny Vegas

and showing both your weakness and lack of fair play too.

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bmonsterman 29th Jun 2010

@itguy08,
Quit trolling.

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Why didn't you try to refute his point?

OS Reload Updated - 29th Jun 2010

@bmonsterman

It would have been more constructive.

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bmonsterman 29th Jun 2010

@OS Reload,
What point? That everything that Microsoft makes is garbage? That certainly isn't a prelude to any kind of meaningful dialog. It's trolling. I think my response was appropriate.

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If I was trying to refute your (implicit) point I would have written:

OS Reload 29th Jun 2010

dvm 29th Jun 2010

@OS Reload,
Great, you gave an example of a migration from Windows to Linux. Again, could you post information regarding how IIS was the cause of the LSE problem or the limits it had in their environment?

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bmonsterman 29th Jun 2010

@OS Reload,
Yes I saw your prior post. You have yet to deliver any substantive argument. If you could specifically compare IIS vs Apache using some performance metrics, benchmarks something, that might be useful. If you could name a flaw in the design of IIS, that would work too. Up to now your points have been rather shallow.

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gcomputeronet@... 29th Jun 2010

@itguy08, statements like that are merely trolling. I use .Net and IIS daily. They work wonders and I can produce what the customer wants very quickly. I love the .Net Framework, the libraries of readily available code is so easy to use. So there is plenty of power in .Net and IIS and I know this because I actually use it. Is there more power in other things? There could be, since I haven't tried everything yet, but I haven't had good experiences in Java and though I like Perl it isn't easy to use. Sometime I might try php or ruby, but out of all the IDEs I've used, Visual Studio is significantly above anything else.

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Millions of web servers use IIs

Webbywarehouse 29th Jun 2010

http://news.netcraft.com/

The numbers don't lie.

And yes, survey after survey indicate that IIs is the most secure mass production web server available at this time.

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If your tech is your business then run Linux. If not then you can use IIS

OS Reload Updated - 29th Jun 2010

@Webbywarehouse

That's the reason you can't see a growing tech giant or a promising tech startup using Microsoft tech.

Non tech firms can safely go with Microsoft because their sources of income will not be affected by that choice.

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RE: Microsoft readies new Express version of its IIS Web server

herry.k Updated - 29th Jun 2010

@OS Reload

Have you heard about BizSpark?
You can use all Microsoft products for free for 3 years if you're a small company earning less than $1M dollars.
Well actually at the end of 3 years you do have to pay $100.
Damn those Redmonds, can't give anything away for free.
But then again if you're in business and not making money for 3 years, maybe there's something wrong with your business models.

Having linux machines with scripting languages to run your site will not save you more money because naturally you need more machines (maybe 3x more?) to support the same no. of users than if you're running .Net.
So you either spend your money on hardwares or licenses.
But looks like you've made your choice already.

There are some well known sites that run on full Windows stack and very performant.
Plenty of fish and Stackoverflow are the common ones.
Others are mostly business oriented.
http://highscalability.com

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@OS Reload

Got stats to backup your claims about techs and non techs?

Actually what you stated is simply rubbish. If you dig into the stats at Netcraft you will see this is the case.

Integrating corporate environments with public services can be achieved with MS and IIs solutions. This is by any measure not possible with non IIs platforms.

Costly?

Yes and no.

What is the cost for reinventing the wheel with a *nix solution that can deliver all that a Windows and IIs environment is already capable of?

You don't come across as being very well informed.

I would add that what herry.k wrote is also spot on

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could be very powerful

dletcher@... 29th Jun 2010

Bringing full web technology to the desktop. It would make desktop development the same as web development. There could be some powerful apps built around a local, small footprint browser, web server and database.

There's millions of Windows users out there. This may be a viable alternative for buidling local apps.

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@Os Reload. Let's see, he only responded to your false information. You on the other hand responded with a false accusation. He never said anything was wrong with the other sites. You should read your own e-mail first, then take a course in reasoning and at that point consider venturing out in public again. At this point you are just embarrassing yourself.

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OS Reload 29th Jun 2010

@Q360

It looks to me that it's you who are just embarrassing yourself.

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Not clear to me

xp-client 29th Jun 2010

Is this for testing and development only or production use will be allowed? Great idea though. Maybe Windows XP will get some of the IIS6/IIS 7 features through this.

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RE: Microsoft readies new Express version of its IIS Web server

mcm_ham Updated - 29th Jun 2010

I gather it's intended only for development work although it doesn't sound like there'll be any technical restrictions from using it for production use. You'll need to configure it to listen to remote requests and create a batch file to start the server on windows startup. However, although it sounds like they'll release security patches when issues arise it won't get the same attention as the full IIS because of it's intended use so you may end up exposing yourself.

[This is from my interpretations of reading the comments Scott Gu made on his post announcing the product]

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RE: Microsoft readies new Express version of its IIS Web server

de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 2nd Jul 2010

@anonymuos : IIS Express is for development and testing, not production.

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A Point about the Rathbone Quote

bmsullivan 30th Jun 2010

?Most developers i know that have hit a wall working with the built in Visual Studio web server and its limitations have had to use an alternative such as (the ASP.Net Web server) Cassini.?

I think Doug may be a bit confused. Cassini *is* the built-in Visual Studio web server. That was part of the problem. The only ways to run ASP.NET sites was thru Cassini or full blown-IIS. You might want to correct this in your article.

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RE: Microsoft readies new Express version of its IIS Web server

tonymjohn 7th Jul 2010

You can find a lot of resources on the early release of IIS developer Express here: http://www.mywindowsclub.com/articles/IIS+Developer+Express.aspx

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RE: Microsoft readies new Express version of its IIS Web server

tonymjohn 7th Jul 2010

You can find more resources on IIS developer express here: http://www.mywindowsclub.com/articles/IIS+Developer+Express.aspx

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