Microsoft releases Windows 'Vail' server to manufacturing

By | March 29, 2011, 11:14am PDT

Summary: Microsoft has released to manufacturing its Windows Home Server 2011 product, codenamed “Vail,” company officials said on March 29.

Microsoft has released to manufacturing its Windows Home Server 2011 product, codenamed “Vail,” company officials said on March 29.

TechNet and MSDN subscribers will be able to download the final WHS 2011 bits in early April, the same time as an evaluation version will be made available, according to a Microsoft Windows Home Server Team blog post. OEMs are building new form factors incorporating WHS 2011 that will be in the market starting in May, officials added.

“Vail” — a k a Windows Home Server 2011 — is Microsoft’s home server. Microsoft delivered the Release Candidate of Vail in February 2011.

Vail’s core Windows enthusiast audience has been none too happy about Microsoft’s decision to remove Drive Extender functionality from the product, but it’s out and staying out. There are some new features in the WHS 2011 product, however, like the inclusion of the Windows Server 2008 R2 core, DLNA 1.5 compliance, new set-up and installation wizards, support for Mac clients, and support for the Windows 7 HomeGroup networking feature.

Microsoft also is expected to release to manufacturing another of its so-called “Colorado” family — its Small Business Server 2011 Essentials hybrid small-business and cloud server, codenamed “Aurora” — any time now. I’m thinking that could happen later today or tomorrow….

Update: In fact, Aurora also has RTM’d as of March 29. (Thanks for the pointer, @UltraWindows!) TechNet and MSDN subscribers will be able to download the bits in early April. SBS 2011 Essentials will be available in “all channels” as of May 1, according to Microsoft. SBS 2011 Essentials is a product aimed at those with 25 users or fewer. It will provide a Windows Server 2008 R2 on premises, and access to Office 365 and its various hosted server components in the cloud.

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RE: Microsoft releases Windows 'Vail' server to manufacturing
termopane 13th Oct
@nomorebs Time passed and it's proved to Vail not fail.
Plase Insecte
Seriously. Microsoft develops way too many software. It gets confusing...
@MJF: it's Vail but do you think it will Fail?
@nomorebs

I don't think so. I think too many people are just making a big deal over the loss of DE. I plan to purchase it but I do not have a current WHS.

I plan to evaluate the 3rd party plug-ins that are creeping up stating they can give DE-like functionality or just simply install the drives and use the enhanced backup features built in. Need to replace/upgrade a drive? Backup that data and install the new drive and restore that data. I think it will be that simple.
@nomorebs Time passed and it's proved to Vail not fail.
Plase Insecte
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@jarrichvdv

yours grammers son muy bads
@jarrichvdv

Yeah because they have such confusing name designations like Windows Home Premium, Professional, Ultimate, Home Server and Office Standard and Professional. I mean they give no clue to what they are supposed to be used for.

/sarcasm

Do you prefer to choose from the plethora of Linux Distros an their confusing naming schemes? I know MacOS has only two versions, one for their desktops and notebooks and one for Server but that is because you can only use them on the limited choices available of Apple branded hardware.
@bobiroc
With Lion is all 1 version, server and OS all in one!! go Apple!!!!
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RE: With Lion is all 1 version
bobiroc 30th Mar 2011
@Hasam1991

Which is fine since you can only (legally) install it on Apple branded hardware but many times the 1 size fits all model does not work for everybody. Windows is designed to run on hardware from many different vendors and to be tailored to fit the needs from the basic home computer user all the way up to top level enterprise. I, for one, like that Microsoft has different tiers to their software offerings.
@Hasam1991 - that's because Apple have discontinued their server product line.

Go Apple ... NOT.
Well I'm glad that it's finally out but I won't be using it in my homeserver because I hate Raid arrays. But being a member of Technet I will down load The small business server and use it for the small business sever that I'm building for my boss. He has only ten clients so it will work perfectly for him.
@pagraves

Idiots like you are the reason Microsoft cut the number of keys we get from Technet in half.
@pagraves

Wait? Your technet is for you or your company you work for?

Because you are not really supposed to use those licenses for permanent usage? At least I do not think you are.

There are other programs that you can get licenses for permanent use that Microsoft offers.
@pagraves - and you hate RAID arrays WHY?
@pagraves Technet licensing does not allow you to use it for a real business. Technet is only for testing.
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Boxes and clouds don't mix in small business
MobileUser2011 29th Mar 2011
It is nice that Office 365 access is provided with the SBS box. But still doesn't explain the need for an on premise server. Do people really want to pay extra to get a horse & buggy as backup for their automobile? If you have 25 or fewer users, Office 365 and other cloud alternatives seem a bunch better deal than an on premise server.
@MobileUser2011 - actually, the need for an on-premise server is pretty clear - it's just that YOU don't understand why.

Let me explain: If you're a business, you have users. You want to use a centralized user account management and network configuration system to simplify management of users, their rights, the machines, printers, etc. in your environment. For that you'd use something like Active Directory. That's what sits on a server within your business.

If you're happy with hosting, managing, backing-up (and restoring in the event of failure) your email and document management services, then you can do so with Exchange and Sharepoint. You can also host some users' email and docs in-house and some in the cloud: you have complete control.

If, however, you're like most small-med sized businesses and you don't want to have to host, manage & maintain your email & doc management, etc., you can opt to have Microsoft host it for you in the Office365 cloud.
@MobileUser2011 Because not all business apps are in the cloud, and not all small business users are comfy with their apps in the cloud, and not all small businesses have big fat internet pipelines. My key line of business apps are not in the cloud. There's not always a cloud alternative.
No Drive Extender?
No sale for Vail.
Epic fail!

I'll stay with my original WHS which does the job AND allows me the ability to expand at any time I want with essentially zero effort beyond sticking in the physical drive and turning the system back on. How can even Microsoft be stupid enough to remove the single feature that made their software worth buying?
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@zdnet@...
You can search for it on the internet as I can not remember the name of the company that created it.
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Why No Media Center Support...
wolters@... 29th Mar 2011
The fact that they STILL haven't added Windows Media Center Extender abilities to this is just so odd and a showstopper for me...
Not interested.
@james347

Of course you're not. So why bother posting on Microsoft. We all know you do not like them.
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I'm sure someone at ZDnet has written about this, can anyone point me to an article where they discuss why this seemingly foundational feature was dropped from Vail? Drive Extender seems like one of the basic features that would entice someone to buy Windows Home Server, so why did they pull it?
@magnusalpha

Drive Extender impacts overall performance and there were other issues causing people problems.

From a couple friends using the Beta and Release Candidate I am told the centralized backup features are quite robust and recovering your server and it's data is fairly easy. They also say it doesn't require more hard drives as you can install drives for live data and set up your media shares or whatever and tell it to back up to the other drives if they are internal or external or somewhere else on a network.
@bobiroc
Never had any issues with drive extender, belive it or not it just works... I've had my server up and running for 2 years, always on, if I need more space, I add new disk and go through wizard, it adds it to the pool, very nice..
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Re: Issues with Drive Extender
bobiroc 30th Mar 2011
@Hasam1991

I cannot speak from first hand experience as I never had a WHS v.1. I do, however, know a few people that do and my brother being one of them. He gave me access and I played around with the interface and saw the features first hand and I was sold. Of course that was when talks about vail were coming out so I decided to wait.

He has had a couple small issues and says if he decides to upgrade would miss DE as well. I think it is unfortunate that it is not an option for those that want to use it but I do not think it is the end of the world or a death sentence to WHS like some are making it out to be. There are plenty of alternatives that are just as easy to set up anyway. Outside of the "geek" community that built their own WHS I found that some people bought one OEM from like HP and only had 1 hard drive anyway. I feel that if you can assemble a computer and install the OS and set up from scratch then the available options to give data redundancy or 1 pool of storage or even good data backup should not be out of the realm of their skills and should take minimal effort to setup and maintain.
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Doesn't matter. I know Windoze propeller heads hate anything Google, but ChromeOS will be taking over this year, that much is true. People will be using in and around the home, and once they see how easy it is to give their data over to Google for safe keeping, will be ditching Windoze left and right. That way they don't have to bother with a home server, which is held together by bailing wire and duct tape. Of course they will keep and old Windoze box in the corner that way they can print with Office, which is used only to format paper.
@Cylon Centurion 0005

lol nice job chanelling donnie grin
@Cylon Centurion 0005

you are joking right?
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@chambo622

You must be new. Lol. Of course wink
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MSDN/TechNet Release Date
chambo622 29th Mar 2011
Anyone know the release date for Windows Home Server on MSDN/TechNet? I'm planning a full rebuild of my Server as soon as possible so I need to set aside some time accordingly
@chambo622

All I have heard is early April so in the next week and half or so I would say?
The disappearance of Drive Extender in WHS is probably driven by an intellectual property issue. It's a safe bet that MSFT received a firm but polite "Cease and Desist" notice from the patent owner: No harm/no foul if you remove it in the next release.
@Dschostakovich - if that was the case you'd have heard all about it as anyone and everyone who sues Microsoft likes to bleat about how hard done-by they are by the big bad monopolist.
@Dschostakovich

Actually the codebase is using server 2008 code and they just couldn't fit in drive extender code without complications thats why its not in their :P
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Horrible marketing
thensley@... 30th Mar 2011
I like to think I'm pretty informed about Microsoft's products, but I have no idea what Windows Home Server is. What makes it different than normal "Windows"? Why would I want it? Doesn't seem like they are doing a good job of marketing this.
@thensley@...

It was poorly marketed. They kind of left that up to the OEMs that offered it but they did not advertise it either really.

Basically it is a inexpensive server offering that is really good for central storage of media that can be shared and viewed across your entire network or even from virtually anywhere with internet access.

It also offers really good backup options for all your computers and WHS2011 will even backup MacOS. Simple complete restore in case you need to.

It also offers remote access features so you can remote to your computers at home using a web interface and such.

It is not for everybody but is something I would recommend people to consider for a multiple computer home for the backup and central media storage alone.
ditto on no interest until someone comes up with an addon that completely replicates the main function which Microsoft stripped out...
@sorahl@...

DE was a main function? And here I thought a few of it's main functions was to be a central media server, a central backup server for up to 10 computers, and remote access server for your media and computers. I didn't know people were just buying it to pool hard drive storage together and letting it sit there.
@sorahl@... There is several DE plug ins that people are coding up.
Indispensable for the multiple family members I support - just for the automated central backup, let alone the remote access to help them troubleshoot problems. If the client PC loses it's hard drive - pop in a replacement drive, boot off the included recovery CD, then restore from the backup on the server.

The remote in-laws and friends have the HP "plug-and-play" model for about $500, locals usually have re-purposed older PC's I've converted for them - WHS is $99 and only needs a PIII-1Ghz and 512mb RAM, but I recommend 1GB or more.
(really? your boss can't cough up the $99 for a legitimate license?)

I highly recommend it for any households with more than 2 PC's and no one to make backups happen on a timely basis. If you "build your own" you can also use it as a print server.

Yes, there are "free" linux-based alternatives, but is your time setting it up and maintaining it worth less than $100?
I agree I will keep rebuilding my WHS 2003 for as long as I can as the drive extender is amazing. I have blown out 3 1TB drives and it has never lost any data.

And Correct TechNet is for testing the software, if you need to use the software go with the ActionPack.
@jpigott

3 Drives really? What brand of drives? If you are blowing out that many drives you may wanna check your power dude. You got a battery backup on that thing? High Quality Power Supply? I only say this because I have had 1 hard drive fail in my personal computers in the last 8 years. I find cheap Power Supplies or dirty power is a killer of Hard Drives.

That and I have had so many Seagate drives at 750GB+ fail so I avoid them. But those were at work and when they die we replace them with Western Digital.
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I'll be staying with WHSv1, thanks...
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I see this being a flop...
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