Microsoft says false alarm: No XP SP3 this year

Microsoft says false alarm: No XP SP3 this year

Summary: Sorry, Windows XP fans. It looks like the "end of 2007" date for XP Service Pack (SP) 3 that was in a Microsoft press release issued this week was mistake. It's back to the "first half of 2008" target again.

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Sorry, Windows XP fans. It looks like the "end of 2007" date for XP Service Pack (SP) 3 that was in a Microsoft press release issued this week was mistake.

At the end of the (east coast) day on May 23, a Microsoft spokeswoman provided the following update:

"I just received additional information from the product manager responsible for SP3.  While we're still not talking specifics, he did point to the following link as an accurate timeline for our preliminary plans for SP3: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx.  Again, these are just preliminary and we will share more at a later date. Please do reference this link for current timing and disregard the release from InterOp, which is inaccurate."

So it looks like XP SP3 is still -- as of today -- a "first half of 2008" deliverable.

Topics: Microsoft, Windows

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  • Microsoft says false alarm: No XP SP3 this year

    Anybody putting a product or service on the market has to give some kind of guarantee.
    If I would be a software "manufacturer" I would first send out my product to every known hacker to play with it for, let's say, 6 months. Anybody breaking it and providing the way to do it, would get 10,000 dollars. No questions asked.
    Better even, I would hire any professional hacker to code my software, not the so-called "programmers" they have now.
    In the meantime, start building a system from scratch and get rid of 75% of the worthless bloat and patches you have now.
    Microsoft, you have the means to develop an effective and automatic program that checks for "leaks and security flaws" right from the beginning.
    quatra
    • Should we fear DRM in XP SP3?

      My biggest concern with upgrading to XP SP3 would be Microsoft trying to sneak in some DRM for the rest of us who had the brains to stick with XP. Anyone know of any plans by MS to sneak in some DRM in the next service pack for XP? Is DRM too involved to be applied through a service pack, or does it take a re-working of the OS?

      Thanks for any info you can provide,
      Brian
      bricar2
      • DRM in XP SP3?

        You got that in SP2. Why worry about it
        now?

        Only way to avoid it is stick with SP1.
        Even then, you're up the creek without a
        paddle if/when they decide to NOT
        reactivate it when you have to
        reactivate (which they will, if they
        haven't already, unless you install SP2
        and WGA. GOTCHA!

        The only sure-fire safe way to use
        Windows is stick with Win2000 and
        collect a good supply of hardware with
        drivers that support it.

        When Microsoft came out with product
        activation, that was the beginning of
        the end for Windows, and their DRM
        scheme just blows the whole shmear to
        bits (literally & figuratively).
        Ole Man
        • DRM in XP SP3?

          I didn't even know about that in SP 2. Hmm. That really didn't seem to prevent CD & DVD piracy though.

          I do know there's that service running called MsPMSPSv.exe. Isn't that the DRM thingy? I usually end that process. Anyway, I downgraded to Vista and quickly upgraded back to XP. Vista wouldn't let me use my soundcard's S/P DIF connections to transfer MY OWN MUSIC I recorded myself (my own guitar compositions) on my digital studio into the computer.

          Anyway, there will always be a way to get around the DRM with CDs and DVDs. Where there's a will there's a way, right?

          Thanks for the info.
          bricar2
          • It's not just CDs and DVDs

            The DRM controls any kind of media that
            is played on your entire computer, even
            in your browser. Yes, it can be cracked,
            but it's not within novice users
            capabilities, and the stinky thing about
            it, it's illegal to do so, dictated by
            our bought-and-paid-for government.
            Right now Microsoft is laying low on the
            WGA thing, and XP is working reasonably
            well (I'm still using it, My wife loves
            her games and I maintain an XP box for
            her), but I am preparing for the day
            they crank back up with their WGA and
            refuse to reactivate XP when it becomes
            neccessary (because of hardware failure,
            etc.) I run mine with SP1 only, and
            refuse to update, patch, or download
            anything from Microsoft. I don't even
            allow my Linux computer to go to a
            Microsoft website.
            My advice is to look for alternatives
            now, before the ax falls.
            Good luck!
            Ole Man
      • Why not use Linux

        Why not just use Linux ? No DRM. NO BS ! I think Microsoft has really shot itself in the foot this time.
        The Devils Advocate
    • Uh... Riiiiight...

      [b]Better even, I would hire any professional hacker to code my software, not the so-called "programmers" they have now.
      In the meantime, start building a system from scratch and get rid of 75% of the worthless bloat and patches you have now.[/b]

      1.) So what's to stop these "professional hackers" from then turning around and "pwning" each and EVERY system that has their work installed? What guarantee can you as the software manufacturer give to the consumer that these guys won't put in a dozen or two back doors they can later exploit?

      2.) For that matter... What makes you think these "hackers" are better coders than the professional programmers they've got now? If you ask me, most of the crapware I've come across hasn't been anything to write home about. Most of them tend to be fairly basic, inelegant, and UNSTABLE. These are the guys I want writing my OS...? I don't think so.

      3.) What would be the point of writing a completely brand new OS? There's NO guarantee that would be any better than XP or Vista. In fact, there's a good chance that NONE of your existing programs would work - and that would mean having to cough up a LOT more money in new versions of your apps.

      4.) NO OS is perfect. It never, EVER will be. Humans write code. Humans are imperfect. They make mistakes. And even still, sometimes code that everyone thinks is solid, clean and trouble free today may someday be exploited. An example of this would be the WMF exploit. The basic code for the subsystem in question was written back in the days of Windows 3.1 and was considered perfectly hack proof until some wiseguy figured out how to break it - YEARS later.

      5.) Bloat? Ok... We could strip out all the bells and whistles and such that make Windows what it is. And what would you have left? Something NO ONE would buy. Consider Windows XP-N - the Windows Media Player free version created at the insistance of the EU. Funny thing about that. NO ONE wants it. Not even the competition - Real complained that their player won't work because their player uses bits of WMP.

      So what's the point?
      Wolfie2K3
      • Hmm...

        Quote-
        <1.) So what's to stop these "professional hackers" from then turning around and "pwning" each and EVERY system that has their work installed? What guarantee can you as the software manufacturer give to the consumer that these guys won't put in a dozen or two back doors they can later exploit?>

        [b]Well, not much has been stopping the hackers from pwning Windows boxen pretty much at will for about years...What guarantee can anyone give the enduser that ANY proprietary (i.e., opaque) software is not doing something nefarious?[/b]

        [b]Further quote-[/b]
        3.) What would be the point of writing a completely brand new OS? There's NO guarantee that would be any better than XP or Vista. In fact, there's a good chance that NONE of your existing programs would work - and that would mean having to cough up a LOT more money in new versions of your apps.

        [b]One possible point to re-writing from the ground up would be to eliminate some of the spaghetti. You can't tell me you think Windows code is as clean and simple as it could be...And until Redmond does break backward compatibility, I'll wager the security nightmare will never end. Case in point...
        (Final quote-)
        [i]"An example of this would be the WMF exploit. The basic code for the subsystem in question was written back in the days of Windows 3.1..."[/i][/b]
        handydan918
        • Duh, numlock off...

          Well, not much has been stopping the hackers from pwning Windows boxen pretty much at will for about 20 years...
          handydan918
  • Too Many 500 Pound Manangers...

    ...and too few worker bees...
    ...can only mean no service pack threes.

    OK the rhyme is a bit contrived, but it looks like the dollars going into these big efforts are not making it to the products the way they did in the early days of MS.

    --Doug Hettinger
    dhettinger
  • Ever?

    Won't surprise me to never see SP3

    Years ago I went to MS for a Visual Studio Conference

    They promised SP6 for VS6

    Never came out

    A
    andycher
  • I Want My SP3 !

    Vista is a dog. It cost to much, runs to slow, and has outragous hardware requirements.
    chessmen
  • re:numlock off

    VISTA RELEASE CANDIDATE 2 IS STILL A BETA !!! not! it's only the patch for XP ((sp3)) THENKEW another screwed microshaft user. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ owitch
    chrisne4@...
  • DRM in XP SP3?

    recode the SP .....or we've been fockerized!
    chrisne4@...
  • Microsoft Marketing Disinformation

    SP3 will make a shadow over Vista actually and announcing an update/upgrade of XP will bring confusion over potential buyers of the Millennium Vista...

    DRM is not anymore the concern of Microsoft. If it was, Microsoft Update would have issue the DRM control over its download already for XP. In my experience it is not the case with XP Pro SP2 that I use.

    The truly fact for all Windows 9X and 2k/Xp/2003 users is there are only few applications already bought and owned prior to January 2006 that is working on Vista.

    Plus the simple fact that Vista isn't friendly compatible with the Hardware?s manufactured before 2007. You have to buy the lower rated Vista version to comply with hardware?s that can't stand the full Vista "Ultimate" version. Basically because of the graphic cards that have to meet the new 'Simile Mac' interface. The new graphical user interface of Vista need lots of CPU and Ram's to work with.

    So, in my opinion, XP SP3 for everyone that already own a XP OS (Corporate Offices, Government Offices and Home Users) will have to be available on Fall this year if Microsoft don't want to spoil it's credibility over majors Buyers actors of the market scene.

    Or maybe a Windows XP Second Edition will be available for sails to keep the business going on for Microsoft ????

    Remember that Longhorn development path was base on Security proof at firs target and the Antivirus and Spywares Lobby kill that path for survivals consideration. This had make Microsoft involve in the security market development business. Subscription fees included has well.

    Longhorn Server (Microsoft Server 2008) will have all the hard security foundation that Vista should had have at first. That means that Corporate and Governments wont need much Security Software?s anymore. But Exchanging Security fees for new Servers OS will not suit every business and Governments pockets in my view.

    Actually More and more peoples are looking after P2P XP SP2 OS with all the upgrade and patch already included on it. Should we blame them ?!?
    pobstar1@...
  • RE: Microsoft says false alarm: No XP SP3 this year

    SP3 is already out, I got it around a week ago, and computer shops here in town are installing it,no problems yet, tho I will be switching to Linux before I ever touch Vista, Vista sucks, and I will never own it.
    rdopey1@...
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