Microsoft shares a few tidbits on IE9 and (lots) more on Silverlight 4

Summary: Microsoft shared some information about what's coming in Internet Explorer 9 and Silverlight 4 during its November 18 Professional Developers Conference (PDC) keynotes.

Microsoft shared some information about what's coming in Internet Explorer 9 and Silverlight 4 during its November 18 Professional Developers Conference (PDC) keynotes.

If you want to see a real example of the difference in disclosure policies between Microsoft's Windows unit and its Developer Division, the level of information provided by execs with each division today made that quite clear.

As expected, Microsoft Windows President Steven Sinofsky shared a few tidbits about Internet Explorer (IE) 9. Sinofsky emphasized that Microsoft will continue to play up privacy, user choice and responsible development with the next IE release. But he offered no information on when the team is planning to release a test build or the final version of the browser.

Sinofsky said during the Wednesday morning keynote that the IE team is about three weeks into the IE 9 project. (I've been getting tips that there already is a build of the product out there that is being used inside Microsoft, but it's not available to external testers yet.)

Sinofsky noted that Microsoft is fully aware that it needs to keep pushing on the standards front. He noted that IE 9 is currently passing 32 of 100 Acid3 tests (compared to Firefox at more than 70 and Opera at 100). He also made it clear that Microsoft is aware it needs to continue to do work to improve JavaScript performance with IE.

Sinofsky said IE 9 will support hardware-accelerated rendering and rounded borders, but didn't say a whole lot more about it. There are a (very) few more specifics about IE 9 on the IE Team blog today.

Scott Guthrie, Microsoft's Corporate Vice President for .Net, had lots more to say about Silverlight 4, the next version of Microsoft's browser plug-in that competes with Adobe Flash.

Microsoft is making a public beta of Silverlight 4 available for download today, November 18. A single, near-final Release Candidate will follow and then the final version of Silverlight 4 will be out in the first half of 2010, according to Guthrie.

Guthrie said Silverlight 4 will be a major new release of the plug-in. He said the upcoming version will incorporate nine of the ten most requested features by developers.

Guthrie itemized and demonstrated some of the new features of Silverlight 4 -- which include everything from its support for webcam and microphone access, to the ability to run Silverlight inside the Google Chrome browser. Silverlight 4 also will include full support for Visual Studio 2010, native multicast support and improved printing, networking and reporting capabilities, company officials said. Silverlight Program Manager Tim Heuer has a full list of those Silverlight 4 features on his blog.

I'm interested in hearing from anyone who manages to download Silverlight 4 (servers are crawling, I hear) about what you think of the new beta of the product. Feel free to chime in in the talkbacks....

Topics: Software Development, Browser, Microsoft

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  • Safari? What Safari ? :-)

    http://www.tgdaily.com/software-features/39495-safari-4-beta-first-
    browser-to-hit-100-score-in-acid3-test

    I know, Steve doesn't like Apple but you're supposed to be a journalist?
    ;-)

    Joseph_Proudhon
    • That will comes as quite the consolation!!

      Considering Safari is always the first browser
      hacked at the PWN2OWN contests, I suppose passing
      the ACID 3 test will be quite the consolation
      after your identity is stolen!!

      You should also be aware that the first 2 mobile
      browsers to pass the ACID 3 test were Iris and
      Opera Mobile 9.7... both of them only available
      (at the time) on Windows Mobile. Apple what? :)
      NonZealot
      • You're off-topic as usual but...

        if you want to talk security, let's talk about that :
        http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9140323/Microsoft_neutered_
        UAC_in_Windows_7_says_researcher

        Now i'm sure windows 7 was your idea ...

        LOL
        Joseph_Proudhon
  • Google chrome?

    IE like Microsoft is stumbling around in a new ecosystem in which spending thousands of dollars is not an option.

    Plus, it locks you into a insecure OS platform with expensive licensing costs.

    Lastly, Google is working hard on their new vision and it is one that does not include MS.

    P.S.
    Google has an APP for that!

    :)
    linux_kernel
    • You worry about security

      Anything from Google comes with integrated spyware. You should worry more about that.
      jorjitop
      • But...

        The linux priest is telling us that Google is their new god and they are perfect and they cannot do evil...


        PS: ChromeOS, a bad idea, a catastrophe waiting to happen.
        Ceridan
  • IE 9 Is Gonna Be Great!!!!

    t's not going to have any of the problems IE 8 had
    It's not going to have any of the problems IE 7 had
    It's not going to have any of the problems IE 6 had...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    It's not going to have any of the problems IE 1 had...

    Trust me...
    itanalyst2@...
    • Congrats on the truism!!

      Unless you use a product that gets [b]worse[/b]
      with every release, what you've just written is a
      truism. In other words, while you are correct,
      you've stated something that simply isn't very
      interesting. Trust me.
      NonZealot
      • Congrats on the fallacy...

        Congrats on the fallacy, considering nearly everything you state is either
        wrong, ad hominem, or a non sequitur.
        olePigeon
    • Umm Yea Apple called..

      And stated they are suing you because you did not have the rights to use their marketing verbiage
      MLHACK
    • The silent giant is SilverLight 4

      "Death to HTML / JAVASCRIPT!!!"

      The underlining message is deafening.
      LBiege
      • I think it's the other way around...

        I think it's the other way around. No one wants Flash or Silverlight.
        HTML5 + JavaScript + CSS is the way to go.
        olePigeon
        • Erm, no its not..

          Developers are currently impaled on Morton's Fork.

          HTML5 + etc is an extremely poor application development platform, certainly not one designed for efficient, high quality development. Even Google know this deep down, hence NaCl and Go.

          Silverlight offers an much better development system, but suffers massively from not being standards based. (Ditto Flash & Java)

          What is needed is W3C to have a serious rethink, and develop a standard for web application development thats based on application development, not document mark-up.

          njoho
          • Nailed it

            Well summarized.
            LBiege
          • 100% Correct.

            The only problem is that W3C takes for-freaking-ever to finalize a standard. Their road map is measured in decades... and I wish I were joking because open standards are important... unlike the GPL.
            mikefarinha
          • Seperate, maybe...

            [i]HTML5 + etc is an extremely poor application development platform, certainly not one designed for efficient, high quality development.[/i]

            I've largly been out of the web development scene for quite some time (except to fiddle with a forum or two that I help code for), so correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the difficulties with using HTML5 et al. for web app development stems from the lack of easy-to-use IDEs that pool the big three (HTML, CSS, JS) into something as usable and straight forward as Flash.

            If that's the case, I know that Apple is working to release something similar to the Flash IDE for use with the big three. It's been an in-house tool for quite some time at Apple, and it was used to develop all the MobileMe apps. I can't for the life of me remember the name of it, but they have a beta for it that you can fiddle with.

            The MobileMe suite of web apps (Mail, Numbers, etc.) was all done with this program, so it stands to show that performance of the big three vs Flash is not really an issue.
            WarhavenSC
          • Web development is a comitee ABOMINATION.

            Modern web apps are nTier apps build so badly that any architect should shoot himself.

            The client

            The client is a hodge podge of standards, Javascript, DHTML , HTML5 , XML , CSS etc. Rendering is a mess and just plain weird ( and not just IE) Firefox is a pain as well.

            The transport

            Communication to the server is a complex and inefficient mix of HTML , Jason and XML.

            The Server

            A mix of HTML and some other language. Also a royal mess complicated by the fact some UI things are done on the server and some on the client. No clear definition of roles . Both the ASP.NET viewstate with IDE and stateless apps which generate HTML but have no desigenr are a pain to work with (ASP.NET is prob the best at the cost of efficiency) .

            Security..clear text passwords.. https you say , any browser addin can read them.

            Development time . 10* longer than a 1990 VB app. Or 5 * longer than a Java or C# nTier.

            = Epic FAIL!

            RIA's are at far superior. Im not saying HTML+CSS is bad.. It is designed for content and good at it just not apps.
            bklooste
          • You should really pick up a good book on web development..

            You make it sound so complicated and it is not. You just
            need a good framework which you understand, then it is
            a breeze... Most apps share 90% of the code so if you
            develop one app RIGHT, your next one will be real easy...
            prof123
          • Agreed, Visual Studio is hard to beat

            I'm a part-time Flash developer, but Adobe doesn't provide any tools as slick as Microsoft's Visual Studio.
            DonRupertBitByte
        • Yeah right ....

          "HTML5 + JavaScript + CSS is the way to go. "

          Maybe after Javascript finally supports multithreading in ... 2016? Way to go to build 21st century APPs w/ that package, lol. What a joke.
          LBiege