Microsoft shares a few tidbits on IE9 and (lots) more on Silverlight 4
Summary: Microsoft shared some information about what's coming in Internet Explorer 9 and Silverlight 4 during its November 18 Professional Developers Conference (PDC) keynotes.
Microsoft shared some information about what's coming in Internet Explorer 9 and Silverlight 4 during its November 18 Professional Developers Conference (PDC) keynotes.
If you want to see a real example of the difference in disclosure policies between Microsoft's Windows unit and its Developer Division, the level of information provided by execs with each division today made that quite clear.
As expected, Microsoft Windows President Steven Sinofsky shared a few tidbits about Internet Explorer (IE) 9. Sinofsky emphasized that Microsoft will continue to play up privacy, user choice and responsible development with the next IE release. But he offered no information on when the team is planning to release a test build or the final version of the browser.
Sinofsky said during the Wednesday morning keynote that the IE team is about three weeks into the IE 9 project. (I've been getting tips that there already is a build of the product out there that is being used inside Microsoft, but it's not available to external testers yet.)
Sinofsky noted that Microsoft is fully aware that it needs to keep pushing on the standards front. He noted that IE 9 is currently passing 32 of 100 Acid3 tests (compared to Firefox at more than 70 and Opera at 100). He also made it clear that Microsoft is aware it needs to continue to do work to improve JavaScript performance with IE.
Sinofsky said IE 9 will support hardware-accelerated rendering and rounded borders, but didn't say a whole lot more about it. There are a (very) few more specifics about IE 9 on the IE Team blog today.
Scott Guthrie, Microsoft's Corporate Vice President for .Net, had lots more to say about Silverlight 4, the next version of Microsoft's browser plug-in that competes with Adobe Flash.
Microsoft is making a public beta of Silverlight 4 available for download today, November 18. A single, near-final Release Candidate will follow and then the final version of Silverlight 4 will be out in the first half of 2010, according to Guthrie.
Guthrie said Silverlight 4 will be a major new release of the plug-in. He said the upcoming version will incorporate nine of the ten most requested features by developers.
Guthrie itemized and demonstrated some of the new features of Silverlight 4 -- which include everything from its support for webcam and microphone access, to the ability to run Silverlight inside the Google Chrome browser. Silverlight 4 also will include full support for Visual Studio 2010, native multicast support and improved printing, networking and reporting capabilities, company officials said. Silverlight Program Manager Tim Heuer has a full list of those Silverlight 4 features on his blog.
I'm interested in hearing from anyone who manages to download Silverlight 4 (servers are crawling, I hear) about what you think of the new beta of the product. Feel free to chime in in the talkbacks....
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Safari? What Safari ? :-)
browser-to-hit-100-score-in-acid3-test
I know, Steve doesn't like Apple but you're supposed to be a journalist?
;-)
That will comes as quite the consolation!!
hacked at the PWN2OWN contests, I suppose passing
the ACID 3 test will be quite the consolation
after your identity is stolen!!
You should also be aware that the first 2 mobile
browsers to pass the ACID 3 test were Iris and
Opera Mobile 9.7... both of them only available
(at the time) on Windows Mobile. Apple what? :)
You're off-topic as usual but...
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9140323/Microsoft_neutered_
UAC_in_Windows_7_says_researcher
Now i'm sure windows 7 was your idea ...
LOL
Google chrome?
Plus, it locks you into a insecure OS platform with expensive licensing costs.
Lastly, Google is working hard on their new vision and it is one that does not include MS.
P.S.
Google has an APP for that!
:)
You worry about security
But...
PS: ChromeOS, a bad idea, a catastrophe waiting to happen.
IE 9 Is Gonna Be Great!!!!
It's not going to have any of the problems IE 7 had
It's not going to have any of the problems IE 6 had...
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It's not going to have any of the problems IE 1 had...
Trust me...
Congrats on the truism!!
with every release, what you've just written is a
truism. In other words, while you are correct,
you've stated something that simply isn't very
interesting. Trust me.
Congrats on the fallacy...
wrong, ad hominem, or a non sequitur.
Umm Yea Apple called..
The silent giant is SilverLight 4
The underlining message is deafening.
I think it's the other way around...
HTML5 + JavaScript + CSS is the way to go.
Erm, no its not..
HTML5 + etc is an extremely poor application development platform, certainly not one designed for efficient, high quality development. Even Google know this deep down, hence NaCl and Go.
Silverlight offers an much better development system, but suffers massively from not being standards based. (Ditto Flash & Java)
What is needed is W3C to have a serious rethink, and develop a standard for web application development thats based on application development, not document mark-up.
Nailed it
100% Correct.
Seperate, maybe...
I've largly been out of the web development scene for quite some time (except to fiddle with a forum or two that I help code for), so correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the difficulties with using HTML5 et al. for web app development stems from the lack of easy-to-use IDEs that pool the big three (HTML, CSS, JS) into something as usable and straight forward as Flash.
If that's the case, I know that Apple is working to release something similar to the Flash IDE for use with the big three. It's been an in-house tool for quite some time at Apple, and it was used to develop all the MobileMe apps. I can't for the life of me remember the name of it, but they have a beta for it that you can fiddle with.
The MobileMe suite of web apps (Mail, Numbers, etc.) was all done with this program, so it stands to show that performance of the big three vs Flash is not really an issue.
Web development is a comitee ABOMINATION.
The client
The client is a hodge podge of standards, Javascript, DHTML , HTML5 , XML , CSS etc. Rendering is a mess and just plain weird ( and not just IE) Firefox is a pain as well.
The transport
Communication to the server is a complex and inefficient mix of HTML , Jason and XML.
The Server
A mix of HTML and some other language. Also a royal mess complicated by the fact some UI things are done on the server and some on the client. No clear definition of roles . Both the ASP.NET viewstate with IDE and stateless apps which generate HTML but have no desigenr are a pain to work with (ASP.NET is prob the best at the cost of efficiency) .
Security..clear text passwords.. https you say , any browser addin can read them.
Development time . 10* longer than a 1990 VB app. Or 5 * longer than a Java or C# nTier.
= Epic FAIL!
RIA's are at far superior. Im not saying HTML+CSS is bad.. It is designed for content and good at it just not apps.
You should really pick up a good book on web development..
need a good framework which you understand, then it is
a breeze... Most apps share 90% of the code so if you
develop one app RIGHT, your next one will be real easy...
Agreed, Visual Studio is hard to beat
Yeah right ....
Maybe after Javascript finally supports multithreading in ... 2016? Way to go to build 21st century APPs w/ that package, lol. What a joke.