Microsoft starts sharing Windows 8 plans with PC partners

Microsoft starts sharing Windows 8 plans with PC partners

Summary: Microsoft's next version of Windows client is far enough along that the Windows team seems to have begun sharing details about its goals with Microsoft's PC partners.

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Windows 8 (which my sources claim recently hit Milestone 1) is starting to take shape.

Microsoft's next version of Windows client is far enough along that the Windows team seems to have begun sharing details about its goals with Microsoft's PC partners. A leaked slide deck -- excerpts of which first appeared on the Web site of blogger Francisco Martin Garcia -- don't reveal a whole lot in terms of specific features. But they do look like the real deal, as Microsoft Kitchen blogger Stephen Chapman -- who pulled out even more of the slides in his post -- noted.

The leaked slides (dating from April 2010) reference "Windows 8," not "Windows v.Next" (the Windows client team's preferred codename these days). They indicate that the next version of Windows, which is expected by many to ship in 2012, will possibly offer some of these features:

  • Fast startup (Huzzah!): A new feature combining Logoff and Hibernate to result will give the look and feel of boot/shutdown be faster
  • Slates mentioned specifically as a target form factor: It will be interesting to see how Microsoft distinguishes between slates running Windows Embedded Compact and slates running Windows 8
  • Push-button reset: A button "that will essentially reinstall Windows while maintaining all of your personal files, applications, settings, etc. without the need for the user to back all of that stuff up," as Stephen Chapman of Microsoft Kitchen describes it
  • Support for facial recognition as one of the ways identity management/log in will be handled
  • IE 9 (no surprise there): With another confirmation of August as being the target for the  first beta  (though I could see this possibly slipping a bit)
  • More thorough help and support, enabling users to do more fixing of issues on their own
  • A Windows App Store (mentioned in the section on push-button reset)

Microsoft isn't commenting (so far) on the slides and isn't even confirming that they are  "Genuine"  Windows 8 PowerPoints -- or how much they reflect current reality. However, I'd note the date on these slides is April 2010 and they sure have the vague look and feel of early Windows documentation.

Topics: Microsoft, Hardware, Operating Systems, Software, Windows

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Mary Jo has covered the tech industry for 30 years for a variety of publications and Web sites, and is a frequent guest on radio, TV and podcasts, speaking about all things Microsoft-related. She is the author of Microsoft 2.0: How Microsoft plans to stay relevant in the post-Gates era (John Wiley & Sons, 2008).

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  • Push Button Reset - Cool!

    That's one of the most exciting features I am looking forward to. I remember when Windows 7 alpha builds leaked in January 2008, this was planned for it, but it looks like it was complex feature to achieve. I do hope it works out for the next version. I also like the ability to log in through facial recognition. I hope they make seamless. I wonder how it will work if you grow a beard.
    Mr. Dee
    • Push button reset, cool until...

      @Mr. Dee... the drive gets rooted.
      Snooki_smoosh_smoosh
      • RE: Microsoft starts sharing Windows 8 plans with PC partners

        @JM1981
        That is linux
        davidhite
    • RE: Microsoft starts sharing Windows 8 plans with PC partners

      Stop posting spam on these blogs or we will get you
      cne
    • RE: Microsoft starts sharing Windows 8 plans with PC partners

      @Mr. Dee , isn't push button reset just another form of the current "system restore" feature. (basically a snapshot?). My guess is it'll just be easier to use and a bit more obvious how to do it.
      SMparky
      • RE: Microsoft starts sharing Windows 8 plans with PC partners

        @SparkyMaddy - No!

        MS is REALLY gunning to make Win8+ ***MUCH*** easier to reinstall and upgrade. Expect some REALLY big improvements in this space.
        de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023
  • If they want a 2 year upgrade cycle,

    then perhaps they should consider slashing what it would cost for a consumer to upgrade their current hardware to the new version. Otherwise to h*ll with paying for Windows upgrades.
    Snooki_smoosh_smoosh
    • 50 bucks

      @JM1981 I don't think 50 bucks is too much to ask for an upgrade.
      rjohn05
      • Last I checked...

        @rjohn05... Upgrade pricing for Home premium is $119.00.

        http://www.microsoft.com/windows/buy/default.aspx

        If you can show me a site where the average consumer can get it for $50, I would like to see it.
        Snooki_smoosh_smoosh
      • RE: Microsoft starts sharing Windows 8 plans with PC partners

        @JM1981

        There were tons of promos last summer to get it for $50 and some ways to get it as low as $30 if you were a student. Heck I got Ultimate for Free just by signing up for the launch party event early. Then I got two more copies of pro for $40 each. Of course their are always education deals but if you are a student or have student(s) in your family then that covers quite a bit of people don't ya think? You snooze you lose as they say.
        bobiroc
      • @ bobiroc

        I remember my parents buying our main family house I grew up in for $10,000.

        So you can't get the upgrade for $50? Thanks for confirming that.
        Bruizer
      • RE: Microsoft starts sharing Windows 8 plans with PC partners

        @rjohn05

        Sure, $50 is in the right ball park, if the average consumer can get it (NOT!).

        Now to throw a cat into the dog park ...

        What if MS decides to extend the new "pricing policy" it introduced with Office 2010? They "simplified" the pricing structure for us poor confused consumers and eliminated the upgrade option! Don't confuse the "free" upgrade from Office 2007. It is time limited to the end of October, and limited to NEW purchases (not just new installs) of Office 2007. All you can buy is full versions, at full price, of Office 2010.

        As for the "you are free to buy something else" argument. The only way I can get a PC without paying for pre-installed Windows is if I buy individual parts and build it myself. The average consumer can't go to an electronics store, or even most online sites and buy an OS free ("bare metal") or alternate OS (some flavor of Nix) computer.
        Ron_007
      • RE: Microsoft starts sharing Windows 8 plans with PC partners

        @bobiroc
        That was last summer. Let's talk about present tense. Like JM1981 was asking. Like, today. 07/29/10<br><br>Unless you know where I can get that $10,000 house...<br><br> ;)
        ahh so
      • RE: Microsoft starts sharing Windows 8 plans with PC partners

        @ahh so

        [i]"That was last summer. Let's talk about present tense. Like JM1981 was asking. Like, today. 07/29/10

        Unless you know where I can get that $10,000 house..."[/i]

        Oh so because he waited and snoozed the promotion should go on forever just because he waited. Like I said before you snooze you lose. When other companies throw promos out like 0% financing on a new car or a rebate do you go and cry when you can't get it later? Seriously.

        The $29.99 student price still lives on today though. And if you work in education you can get good deals every day. So the moral of the story is if you see a good deal then maybe you should not procrastinate and take advantage of it.
        bobiroc
      • RE: Microsoft starts sharing Windows 8 plans with PC partners

        @Ron_007

        [i]"..As for the "you are free to buy something else" argument. The only way I can get a PC without paying for pre-installed Windows is if I buy individual parts and build it myself. The average consumer can't go to an electronics store, or even most online sites and buy an OS free ("bare metal") or alternate OS (some flavor of Nix) computer. "[/i]

        Try picking up the phone. HP and Dell will offer FreeDOS or linux on more systems if you call. As for the retail shelves they are not gonna sell something a very small fraction of the people want. It is not good business. You could also go to a local computer shop and have one built to your specific needs if you do not possess the skills to build one yourself. The options are there so quit complaining because you are too lazy to shop around.
        bobiroc
      • RE: Microsoft starts sharing Windows 8 plans with PC partners

        @bobrockhead
        [i]Oh so because he waited and snoozed the promotion should go on forever just because he waited. Like I said before you snooze you lose. When other companies throw promos out like 0% financing on a new car or a rebate do you go and cry when you can't get it later? Seriously.[/i]<br><br>Seriously? How about [b]only[/b] seeing discounts like that when M$ releases a new OS every what? Three to six years? You never see any sales for it on the shelves like you do with other software. It's price-fixing of the lowest common denominator.<br><br><i>The $29.99 student price still lives on today though. And if you work in education you can get good deals every day.</i><br><br>Big deal. You're talking what? 10 percent of all users? - lol... :D Seriously, my_ass.<br><br><i>So the moral of the story is if you see a good deal then maybe you should not procrastinate and take advantage of it.</i><br><br>So the moral of the story is the government needs to take a [b]serious look[/b] at the situation and why this monopoly exists. And I don't mean the public relations band-aid collusion that's gone on for the last few years. I mean something with real legal teeth to it.
        ahh so
      • RE: Microsoft starts sharing Windows 8 plans with PC partners

        @ahh so

        First you do not know the definition of Price Fixing. It is not when a company sets their own price. The only time Price fixing happens is when two or more companies get to together and determine a price. Any company is allowed charge what they want and the government should not get involved.

        As of being a monopoly? Definitely not true. There are many choices out their for people. Macs, Linux, iPads, Smartphones, local libraries to use their computers. Their are many options out there depends on what the consumer needs. I personally cannot use an iPad but many people can get away with it as the only computer they need. Same with Smartphones - it would suffice for many people. Same with Libraries - it would also suffice for many people to go to the library as they need.
        Djblois
      • RE: Microsoft starts sharing Windows 8 plans with PC partners

        @JM1981
        I got Home Premium full for $85 from newegg.com. I can't imagine someone paying $120 for the upgrade when the full install is available under $100.
        kwabinalars
    • Whatever happened to charging what the market will bear?

      @JM1981
      I find it very interesting that whenever anyone accuses Apple of charging "too much", the answer is always that Apple charges what it charges and it is up to the consumer to buy or not to buy.

      MS is making bucketloads of money from Windows, more overall profit than even your beloved Apple. If Apple can only charge $29 for OS X upgrades and MS can charge more, maybe you should be asking Apple why consumers aren't willing to pay more than $29 for OS X? And if consumers [b]are[/b] willing to pay more, shareholders should be demanding that Apple charges more.

      Cue the double standards...
      NonZealot
      • RE: Microsoft starts sharing Windows 8 plans with PC partners

        @NonZealot <br><br>Yes but somehow Apple has brainwashed people into thinking that they manufacturer their own computers instead of building them from parts purchased from third parties. They also have people thinking that MacOS includes hundreds of dollars in free software and that justifies the higher price tag.<br><br>It also does not change the fact that there were many promotions over the past year for the average consumer to get Windows 7 Home Premium or Professional for $50 or less. Of course there were conditions on some of those promotions. I am pretty positive the $29.99 deal is still going on for students. So if you are in school then you can get the promo price. 1 per student though.

        There were also conditions on the $29.99 Snow Leopard (10.6) price like you had to have an Intel Based Mac that had Leopard (10.5) installed.
        bobiroc