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Microsoft's Ballmer: Windows 7 slates are coming this year

By | July 12, 2010, 6:22am PDT

Summary: Microsoft isn’t going to sit idly by and let slates from Apple and various Android backers run away with this market. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer told the 14,000 partners during his July 12 keynote at the Worldwide Partner Conference to expect new Windows 7 slates before the end of this year.

Microsoft isn’t going to sit idly by and let slates from Apple and various Android backers run away with this market.

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer told the 14,000 partners during his July 12 keynote at the Worldwide Partner Conference to expect new Windows 7 slates before the end of this year.

Microsoft and its existing PC partners, including Asus, Dell, Samsung, Toshiba and Sony, will all be fielding Windows 7 slates in the coming months, Ballmer said. These slates will be available at a variety of price points and in a variety of form factors — with keyboards, touch only, dockable, able to handle digital ink, etc.

Since Ballmer showed off a prototype of a Windows 7 slate from Hewlett-Packard at the Consumer Electronics Show in January, the company has said next-to-nothing about how it planned to address the slate form-factor space. (It’s interesting Ballmer didn’t mention HP in his list of slate partners this morning. (Update: As a few folks have pointed out, HP was still shown on Microsoft’s slate slide, however.)  HP still hasn’t officially confirmed that it isn’t going to deliver a Windows 7 slate this year, but HP officials have said to expect the company to field a WebOS-based one this fall.)

“We know you really want to know what’s coming” in the new form factor space, Ballmer told partners.

Ballmer never mentioned the iPad or the coming Chrome OS-based slates by name during his remarks. Microsoft’s pitch will be that these slates will be sanctioned by corporate IT departments, enabling customers to use them at work and at home.

I think it’s way overdue for Microsoft to tell customers what’s coming on the slate front. We’ve heard that there will be Windows Embedded Compact tablets and slates coming, but it’s doubtful (I’d think) that those will be able to run Windows apps.

Microsoft execs can’t — with any credibility — keep pooh-poohing slates, claiming they’re nothing more than PCs, given how quickly the iPad has been gaining traction. Microsoft is known to be focusing on the slate form factor with Windows 8, but that operating system is still likely close to two years away from release.

All that said, there’s more to a slate than just the physical form factor. If there isn’t longer battery life, instant on/off and some kind of app store with not just the usual business apps, but also consumer-focused apps and games, I’m not so sure users are going to bite…

Microsoft officials are expected to show off some of the prototype Windows 7 slates later today during the partner conference keynote. Stay tuned for more….

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RE: Microsoft's Ballmer: Windows 7 slates are coming this year
dfwekrdfe21-24353591773875370058218281633688 10th Nov
ctbqdr,good post!
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Cylon Centurion 12th Jul 2010
Personally, I can't wait to see ASUS' line of EEE Pads. If you have seen the hardware specs on that and the supposed battery life, that'll be the one to own.
@NStalnecker With a 3 billion dollar R&D budget, MS is again aping Apple. Innovation, it seems, is not in their dictionary.
@prof123 Get a clue already.

The only thing delaying MSFT and these tablet companies are the new Intel atom chips that will come out early next year ready to knock those ARM processors around. Once they are out, it's iPads running on subprime processors that will be in trouble.
@prof123
I could have sworn that Bill Gates demonstrated tablet technology at the 2001 COMDEX.
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@CMonster67

If the Win 7 tablet is anything like the monstrosities that Ballmer showed at CES in January, Apple and Google have nothing to be worried about. MS will deliver yet another stillborn, touchscreen-based product, just like the XP tablet. Ballmer is presenting this as a "form factor". Man, this guy has no clue.
@prof123 "aping Apple"

Sigh. Why is it that these Apple fanbois are so utterly ignorant? Nobody is aping Apple. What has Apple invented in this space? Please elaborate? Windows tablets have been available for a long time already. Far longer than the iPad has. Apple put a phone OS onto a table and that is supposed to be innovation? It's called marketing. Apple doesn't innovate. Hardly ever has.
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Yeah, that explains it terjeb... LOL
i8thecat 15th Jul 2010
"It's called marketing. Apple doesn't innovate. Hardly ever has." - terjeb

That explains soooo much.. Like how they come in with a little "marketing" and boom!!! They dominate the stagnant tablet market... First try... But it's not that the iPad is different, because according to you, it's not, after all, Apple didn't innovate anything... Like a customer processor, and an App Store that is the envy of the entire industry, and the best user experience in the industry, and made gesture computing a reality and actually made it enjoyable, and made augmented reality a reality, etc. etc. Nope.. they innovated nothing... It's all smoke and mirrors...
It?s an illusion I say!!!! And illusion of deceit by the Messiah!!! He spaketh and it was marketeth and it was good. And Yea Verily, the beliers thus followed the unholy profit as well as the rest of the word did follow the unholy profit into believing that the same old tablet was somehow different and born anew. And they all falsely believed it was innovated by the Messiah Jobs, yet, yea verily, it was just magic marketing, spawn from the loins of Satan himself. A plague I say, an unholy plague of deceit and misbelieved enjoyment from said vile devices. A curse on all of your blind sheep!!! A curse you wretched fools!!! How dare you spendeth your money on what you like!!! SINNERS!!!! FOOL!!! It?s all Marketing!!! Don?t you know anything!!!
@prof123 I think you got it backwards. Microsoft, Fujitsu and Toshiba created the slates back in 2001 with the first release of the Tablet PC version of Windows.
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@prof123

Tablet PCs are a decade old. It' just that Apple gave it a one big strong push.
terjeb@...
ballmer "ms may not be first or the best but we just keep coming and coming and coming..."

translation: we'll pump money into it until you die.

you mean that kind of innovation?

the free market at it's finest.
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I'm getting to dislike Google with their lousy privacy policies, but at least they actually innovate with browsers.
True, Microsoft has design and UI usability problems with everything they've ever made, but basing browser comparisons soley on how they look...
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I prefer a hybrid.
CobraA1 12th Jul 2010
I prefer a hybrid. Tried some of the demo iPads at Best Buy - going 100% touch isn't that great. Give me something with a real keyboard. Those models that can switch between slate and notebook configurations are ideal.
@CobraA1 I wish you would all WAKE UP. You can attach a bluetooth keyboard to the IPad and it works just fine. Stop the FUD.
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But it's not running
Cylon Centurion 12th Jul 2010
@Ron Burgundy

A "real" desktop OS.
@Ron Burgundy
Honestly, with the way Jobs & Co. treat the ipad, I am surprised they haven't disabled this somehow. They don't want it to be like a "desktop", so they hamstring or remove apps that are "like" a desktop environment. Besides. the people who really want a physical keyboard usually want one on the device, not another peripheral to lug around. I wish YOU would wake. Apple makes nice devices, yes, especially for the kool-aid drinking fanboi's. For those of us who like to do whatever we want on our electronics & don't like d-bags in black turtle necks telling us what a device should do, they really kinda suck. Get over it.
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Actually it is....
James Quinn 12th Jul 2010
@NStalnecker
It does the function of an OS. This is like the iPhone argument made when the iPhone first was introduced.. It was to be such a fail for it was in fact (as some claimed) not an actual "smartphone". Now several years later you don't here that argument made do you? The whole "real" OS is a very limited perspective and subjective argument that has no merit. As long as the iPad sells well and it has and is then the argument is a fail. Just like the argument that because the iPhone did not have a specific list of 'features" that "some" insisted made it a smartphone of the lack of said made the iPhone NOT a smartphone actually failed in the market place.

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No you and yours should get over it...
James Quinn 12th Jul 2010
@jahcriado
As far as I can tell Apple and Jobs has had a very specific vision for the technology they make. This is where Apple has always been going from the start and you and yours should be aware of this by now. Just because you are not a fan of this philosophy should not make you blind to the fact that over the years it has worked for Apple and when Apple lays out the ground work often others in one form or another copy it for their products hence the iPhone like phones now flooding the market place. Seriously get over it will you.

Apple makes great products for those of us who don't want computer or electronic projects but rather easy to use tools that entertain and serve specific functions. We don't want to struggle with endless puzzles for to our way of thinking that is a HUGE waist of our time and not where our nature/interests tend to take us. I do computer repair support for a living... I have NO INTEREST in taking my work home with me. Others don't have my experience or knowledge and guess what they don't want to have said. That knowledge has not great use to them other than being a bother and or struggle that thanks to Apple is needless. GET OVER IT!!!!

Pagan jim
@jahcriado Get your mind off the desktop and into the cloud. That's where the IPad resides. I have three Windows 7 desktops and two Windows 7 laptops at home in addition to my 360....and I love the IPad...it's great since I work online all the time and meets my needs...a few software glitches but iOS4 will iron that out.
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Bluetooth guzzled battery life
HypnoToad72 12th Jul 2010
@Ron Burgundy - Steve Jobs thinks only Flash uses battery life and nothing else. :-S
@Ron Burgundy hey, I'm a big Mac fan owning the quadcore 27" Imac , a Mac Pro and an Iphone, my kids all own Mac Pro's that I bought them. having used the Ipad for a month - I can honestly say it's a piece of over hyped cr*p.
just for the record I taught PC design and assembly at College - I'm now a free lance designer using only Macs for my work.
First of all, why is everybody flagging our posts?

@Ron Burgundy

When I say "notebook configuration" I mean with a hinge. As in the screen props itself up, not I have to find something to prop it on.
"It does the function of an OS."

I require native Windows compatibility - using games and OneNote here. Maybe other people can use it, I can't.
@Ron Burgundy
Ok so CobraA1 would prefer a Convertible Net-book or a Convertible Laptop to an Ipad. How in the h3ll is that FUD.
Personally I agree with him. Ive seen quite a few convertible net-books in the works that look fantastic.
I would much rather have the choice of having a keyboard or using it as a tablet. Id also rather have the choice of using a full OS or using a tablet OS thats laid over the full OS. If you need a good example try looking at the ExoPC's slate interface. You can use Windows7 or the tablet interface as you choose.
Not to mention there are a few things that make me very uneasy about buying an Ipad.
1. Battery issue. If my battery dies I have to send my Ipad to Apple and they replace MY Ipad with another (possibly refurbished) Ipad. No thanks I take good care of MY equipement. If I buy something I shouldnt have to act like im just leasing it and send it in and get a replacement for $100.
2. I cant attach an external hard-drive to it. Sorry But I dont think anyone should have to change how much stuff they collect or download just because Apple doesnt like the idea of an external hard drive being attached to the Ipad.
When Apple fixes things like that then Maybe I would seriously consider an Ipad. Untill then Not a Chance
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cosuna 12th Jul 2010
@NStalnecker:

What's a 'real' desktop OS?

a) Mac OS X (vector driven icons, not bit mapped like XP/Vista/7)
b) Linux (true linear file system, not the old A: B: C: as NT class PC)
c) Windows XP (true Windows compatibility in each and every hardware device)
d) OS/2 Warp (true object oriented nature).

As you can see, being able to run Windows 7 does not make a slate good. In real terms, just as text based terminal emulators are crude and clumsy on Windows based systems, so are mouse and keyboard oriented apps in slates.

Think again when you speak or you'll be stuck in Windows forever, when everybody else uses something different.
@cosuna

A real OS to me is one where I have control. File management, content creation, etc...

Although I don't understand why you think Windows won't work, because it has for me so far on a touch screen laptop.
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Why Win7 is not a good match ....
wackoae 12th Jul 2010
@NStalnecker The answer to your question is simple. It won't work because it is too bloated for the job.

The performance of Win7 on notbooks is abysmal. Even with everything turn off, it is still slower than an old Celeron laptop with 512MB. What makes you believe it would do much better in a platform with lower specs???
What makes you believe it would do much better in a platform with lower specs???

@wackoae
That's because the Redmond Borg Collective like to make unrealistic demands on a portable device like this. That's why they'll throw in silly negatives like lack of auto-CAD, SQL database management, Photoshop use, etc.. stuff even a netbook can't run, let alone the iPad and use it to discredit the device.

That's why they pay shills to come on here.
"All that said, there?s more to a slate than just the physical form factor. If there isn?t longer battery life, instant on/off and some kind of app store with not just the usual business apps, but also consumer-focused apps and games, I?m not so sure users are going to bite?"

This statement is lame beyond words. Battery Life... ok.. it needs like 5 hours. The rest is just stupid. App Store? Windows applications are the most widely available and sold applications on the planet... you can get them anywhere and everywhere and Windows 7 is backward compatible with games built in the 80s...and will run the latest and greatest. Now...what is ideal on a desktop PC with lots of power and what is ideal on a slate with less power is up to the end user to decide. However, I would expect that most web based games...ie..Farmville, Bejewelled, Mafia Wars... you those pesky flash based games... will work straight out of the gate on a Windows 7 slate and will not work on say... an iPad.

Instant on/off? Really? Put the thing into Sleep mode and Windows 7 will come out of sleep nearly instantly. Just like it does on my Laptop. Now, if you completely shut it down...it will take maybe a 60 seconds to boot..but that is still no big deal.

Honestly...I am more concerned with the weight of these devices. The killer feature of the Kindle is that it weighs nothing, and when the iPad came out and I held it in one hand for 30 seconds... my immediate reaction was... I would rather have a netbook and read books on my kindle.

The physical form factor is cool... but if it is heavy...No go.

Last.. Price is key. $399 Windows 7 slate.. with a dual core Atom, 5 hours battery life 100GB storage and 3GB Ram... will sell out in minutes... Same slate at $699...total sales... NONE.
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Wolfie2K3 12th Jul 2010
@condelirios
Price IS the key. That IS the primary reason convertible and other tablet devices haven't taken off since they were introduced. Who in their right (or left) mind would spend $2500 to $4500 for a convertible/tablet when a standard laptop selling for $499 would do the job just fine.

In that respect, I think $500 is the ballpark price to shoot for.
@Wolfie2K3 The ipad has taken off. hasn't it?
@Wolfie2K3 No one's paying $2500-4500 for a convertible tablet - my HP convertible tablet I paid about $900 for - has Win7 64-bit, dual core, 8GB RAM, 256 GB SSD, DVD writer, 1Gbit LAN, Wireless-N, bluetooth, etc. etc.
@erikswanson
Yeah.. And how much are they getting for it? $500 - $800. No where near $2500.

@archangel999
And I'll wager your purchase was made recently. Like in the last 9 months. Try looking at the price of a convertible tablet from say, 5 or 6 years ago. They weren't anywhere near $900.
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Mary Jo Foley 12th Jul 2010
HI. Sorry you think my statement is "lame beyond words." The reason I and others have looked at the iPad is the battery life, the UI, the app store. Price isn't as much an issue for me. Nor is running enterprise apps. Thanks. MJ
@Mary Jo Foley: Thank you for your article. Me, and no doubt many of the other couple of million people who've bought iPads over the past two months, are very interested to know what Microsoft plans to do in the "slate" marketplace.

One thing I'm pretty certain of is this: If they take their product planning ideas from the sort of ill-mannered, witless geeks who post snarky and self-involved comments in response to serious, well-informed journalists - then they'll end up with another feature-riddled, slow, and expensive flop on their hands.
@Mary Jo Foley Your statement is anything but "lame beyond words." I own an iPad and battery life, availability of apps, and processing power, meant everything to me. Price was not a concern. Thank you for your prescient views, Mary Jo.
@Mary Jo Foley I am grateful you do not have to concern yourself with the prices of tablets. Sounds like the pundit business is treating you well. May it continue.

Tablets today are discretionary purchases - which many cannot afford. Tablets also (as many have said before) represents a software model MS will pay dearly to re-tool to deliver on, with a hardware model MS has at times been arrogantly indifferent to openly hostile towards. And that model's being championed by MS' two greatest single cage-rattlers, The GooG and APPL. This has to really, really irk the titans of Redmond.

With an immature delivery platform, new technology, and a developer base in glass houses who don't know what they'll be coding and supporting in front of them, there's YET ANOTHER issue: the lack of a "lock" on a business problem these devices will solve that can justify the expense at production costs of MS-unique systems.

MS will have to sell many (many) units at far below cost, before corporate IT is going to bite, because MS will otherwise never catch up with the Apples and Chromium system devices. This will have to be done with some care, since no one is going to sit by while they make their own market, but it's what they'll have to do if they're going to succeed.

If MS doesn't re-capture this wayward group of users (I call them "everyone"), they're going to go the way of Wang Computer. Only faster.
@Mary Jo Foley But Mary... an APP STORE? Why is that a feature to consider? I understand why it is important to Apple devices which are always incompatible with the software everyone already owns(ie...Windows Software)...but if we already own Windows software, and can install it... or download another copy from anywhere... an App Store is completely lame.

I want the slate to run the applications I always use... and be a light portable touch screen and maybe even include a small keyboard... The Kindle 2 form factor with an AMOLED touch screen and Windows 7. Perfect.

I am not talking about Enterprise apps... I made no mention of those.. I believe I spoke of FARMVILLE... it doesn't get LESS enterprise than that. Running the FULL normal facebook homepage with all the games, chat, and video feeds in a tablet form factor would be awesome.

I also didn't say battery life was unimportant... 5 hours would be enough. Because I have no problem plugging it in to charge and 5 straight hours of use on a tablet is unlikely.

On the UI front, I have yet to see an easier to use interface than Windows 7... maybe as easy... but not easier. iOS4 is NOT easier to use. At all. The settings are minimal for every application and the features scaled down to minimal levels....as they are in most Apple systems. Lack of Features and Functionality, does not equate to easier to use.

Price is always the issue. Tablet PCs sold by Microsoft partners in the past 10 years have failed for ONLY ONE reason. Price. Same specs, much higher price with touch screen = No Sales. This is the lesson they should have learned by now... and if they haven't the Slate PCs will also fail. Do not overcharge for the touch screen, or people will continue to buy netbooks.
@Mary Jo Foley
So far, in 2010 I haven't seen a Windows 7 computer which impressed me the way the ipad has. Your statement is anything but lame.
@condelirios
I agree with much of what you say (but you are a bit rude).

I wouldn't want a slate, per se, but a lighter tablet version of my lenovo (Perhaps the slate would just be a monitor that sits in the keyboard). And the stylus is just too useful for my line of work.

I think the Windows 7 slate is just waiting for the right chip; the new Atom N550 might have enough juice to run a carefully crafted Windows 7 configuration.

I agree that all the software pieces are there, the question is: can a team be found to put them together into a compelling package? That's where the art is.
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@batpox Sorry I was a bit rude... I am trying to pull Mary out of the Apple RDF. It is tough. The ZDNet staff seems to be in denial that Apple isn't the answer to every consumer electronics question and that every other product must mimic that paradigm or risk total failure.

I agree with you that they are totally waiting on Intel to step up to the plate. I think 4th quarter will be interesting.
@condelirios

"an APP STORE? Why is that a feature to consider? I understand why it is important to Apple devices which are always incompatible with the software everyone already owns"

Well, that says it all. You don't get it.

Did you consider that Apple COULD have made the iPad to run existing OS/X software, but didn't? There's a fairly huge library of OS/X and X11 apps, you know.

Why not use them? Because it's sometimes better to start with a clean slate, no pun intended.

The app store serves as the ecosystem, that makes the whole experience streamlined.

If the imitators don't have their own app store, they will flop.

People will install their old apps, which won't work well with the touchscreen interface, there will be bugs galore, malware will abound, and customers will be disappointed.

Linux users have the patience and dedication to work through bugs to perfect their platform; few others do.

The iPad succeeds because it's on the level of an appliance, not a computer. And without the app store it would be no more useful than my old calculator.
@condelirios

Price must clearly be the key seeing how Apple sold millions of iPads at prices starting at a price higher than $399 with less specs than your magic Windows 7 device.

You fail to realize that at some point a Windows 7 slate is just going to feel like a slow Windows 7 laptop minus the keyboard. That might be useful for some people, but to sell out in minutes?
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@condelirios I couldn't disagree more with a couple of your key points. As an owner of an iPad (and nothing else from Apple) along with a host of Linux and Windows-based laptops, netbooks, etc. I can say that the form-factor of a tablet is uinque. What makes it so are exactly those things you dismiss: Battery life is cnredibly important. Once you get used to 10 hours battery life and the concern of proximity to an outlet, the freedom to use the device in all sorts of mobile situations becomes clear. Instant on means that you can leverage the device as a hyper-reference tool. In the 60 seconds it takes Windows 7 to effective come out of hibernation, I can be on the iPad, look something up, send and email with the data and walk away. It's powerful, and again, once you've gotten used to it, the lack of it will pose a barrier to adoption of other scenarios. The ease of use means my little 3 year old can operate the device -- the UI is an enabler on the iPad, and that's for anyone of any age doing any kind of work. There are problems, yes. The flash thing is annoying, and no way to directly print is, too. Fixed storage is also a shame. I'd love a solid Windows or even Android-based tablet that DID have a storage card slot and USB port. But it must have long batterly life and instant on or the form factor does not mesh with the technology.
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RE: Microsoft's Ballmer: Windows 7 slates are coming this year
dfwekrdfe21-24353591773875370058218281633688 10th Nov
ctbqdr,good post!

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