Microsoft's secrecy gameplan tested as more Win7 screenshots leak

Summary: As this week ended, more screenshots of an alleged test build marked as "M3" (Milestone 3) of Windows 7 leaked across the Web -- something about which neither Microsoft nor some of its testers seem very happy.

As this week ended, more screenshots of an alleged test build marked as "M3" (Milestone 3) of Windows 7 leaked across the Web -- something about which neither Microsoft nor some of its testers seem very happy.

Microsoft is believed to have begun releasing M3 builds inside and outside the company to selected testers starting around September 12.

To date, the Windows 7 team has managed to keep a fairly tight lid on test builds. while the M1 build of Windows 7 leaked widely starting at the end of 2007, the M2 build didn't get much traction. But M3 builds seem to be making their way around; I myself saw one M3 build, thanks to a source of mine, earlier this week.

Microsoft officials continue to refuse to discuss Windows 7 or the leaked test builds. When asked anything about Windows 7 features or functionality, Microsoft refers people to its "Engineering Windows 7" blog, authored by members of the Windows 7 team. Entries on the blog so far have focused on Microsoft's processes and thinking about Windows 7 but have said and shown just about nothing about the product itself, which is slated to ship in 2009.

Those testing Windows 7 seem to have a variety of viewpoints about Microsoft's reticence to talk about the product. Some believe that Windows Engineering Chief Steven Sinofsky's policy of being "translucent" rather than "transparent" is a good one -- and point to confusion and disappointment with Windows Vista as proof that Microsoft should not share information early about what it's doing with Windows.

But others are not convinced that secrecy will yield a better product. Some testers with whom I've spoken are unhappy that a first broadscale beta of Windows 7 is not expected until December 2008, just months before Microsoft is hoping to release the product to manufacturing. Even some Microsoft employees are not convinced that the lockdown Microsoft is attempting with Windows 7 is going to result in a better-received product.

Tensions between the "translucency" and "transparency" camps are increasing.

One Windows tester, Cullen Dudas, has contacted at least two Windows enthusiasts this week, seemingly offering them places on the Windows 7 beta if they turned in sources of the Windows 7 leaks.

I asked Dudas whether -- as Windows blogger Rafael Rivera alleged -- he was authorized by officials running the Windows 7 beta program to offer individuals spots on the Windows 7 beta. Dudas responded:

"This is completely over exaggerated.... This is a rumor that has gotten way out of hand. There was an offer made to two individuals who claimed to have information on the leak, and asked if they could get into the beta. I checked with (Windows beta chief) Paul Donnelly, he said that sure, their names would be written down for the beta when it finally did start up. It wasn't any sort of bounty or reward, it was just a path to find out what exactly was going on with the leak."

I also asked Microsoft for official comment as to whether it is attempting to squelch leaks by offering those willing to turn in their sources a place on the Windows 7 beta -- via members of the testing community like Dudas. No word back yet.

If Microsoft does end up providing early Windows 7 bits to attendees of its upcoming Professional Developers Conference and/or Windows Hardware Engineering Conference, I'll be interested to see what the terms and conditions will be on these builds. Will testers be allowed to talk about what they get? Or be bound by non-disclosure agreements? I'll also be interested to see how much Windows 7 changes between these latest M3 builds and Beta 1 in December....

Topics: Windows, Microsoft, Operating Systems, Software

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Mary Jo has covered the tech industry for more than 25 years for a variety of publications and Web sites, and is a frequent guest on radio, TV and podcasts, speaking about all things Microsoft-related. She is the author of Microsoft 2.0: How Microsoft plans to stay relevant in the post-Gates era (John Wiley & Sons, 2008).

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  • Microsoft blah blah blah, Microsoft blah blah blah...

    Microsoft should take the advice it gives to its hapless customers: remove all important data and reinstall. This isn't news (no fault of yours Mary Jo), this is a broken record... as in vinyl record. This is just Microsoft being Microsoft. It would seem to be statistically impossible given the number and caliber of brains working at Microsoft, that they haven't figured out how to stem the ever increasing slippage into the black hole of irrelevancy. They are beating the odds, to death. They have become the most boring, predictable company on the planet.

    Steve, why don't you throw a chair or something and liven things up.
    kozmcrae
  • So, which is it, Cullen?

    You go from saying it's a rumor to admitting the truth of the incident. Brilliant! Ah, the young 17 year-old mind; willing to sell out people for personal gain! What could be greater than this age-old cause and effect? Keep fighting the good fight, Cullen! I'm sure you'll get everything your little selfish heart desires soon enough!
    uxevangelist@...
    • Lay off!

      Cullen is a top guy!! leave him alone!
      GTRoberts100
  • RE: Microsoft's secrecy gameplan tested as more Win7 screenshots leak

    Screenshots remind me a lot of Linux!
    kangal3632
  • I agree - public beta testing should begin now!

    MS ignored the beta testers last time about the sluggish performance of Vista because the reports of the incredibly bad performance of Vista went to MS. MS would do well to have public beta testing and the feedback PUBLICLY put in one of the MS Forums or newsgroups.

    That way if a few thousand people say it runs slower than XP - they can FIX the issue before release instead of trying to silence those reports for about 6 months after release like they did with Vista.

    Frankly MS is using WAY too much of the bad, bloated, sluggish Vista code in Windows 7. They should have optimized it completely instead of just rehashing it with some Windows 7 logos and updated icons.

    IT professionals aren't Mojave techno dolts - we can tell you for real if Windows 7 is good or not. Why does MS fear the truth so much?
    boed
    • You must be psychic!

      "Frankly MS is using WAY too much of the bad, bloated, sluggish Vista code in Windows 7. They should have optimized it completely instead of just rehashing it with some Windows 7 logos and updated icons. "

      You know this how - you've OBVIOUSLY not yet had your hands on Win7?

      Take the time to educate yourself on HOW Microsoft is REALLY building Win7 - I think you might be pleasantly surprised.

      http://blogs.msdn.com/e7
      de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023
  • RE: Microsoft's secrecy gameplan tested as more Win7 screenshots leak

    What makes you think that these leaks aren't part of the plan? Microsoft's learned from Apple's approach to marketing OS releases. This is the start of the "seditious buzz".
    dwight.silverman@...
    • maybe the leaks are planned, but i doubt it

      I am doubtful Microsoft wants Win7 info out to the public yet for a couple reasons. One, it will hurt Vista more than it's already hurting (the whole "let's just wait for 7 and skip Vista, since 7 is right around the corner). And secondly, Sinofsky has stated repeatedly that he believes it doesn't serve customers or partners to have info go out early, since the feature set is still in flux (to some degree). Microsoft wants 7 to be the anti-Vista, in terms of how its development and launch is handled.

      MJ
      Mary Jo Foley
      • A Case for Tolerated, If Not Authorized, Leaks

        You have a lot more information than I do, including some
        insight on the motivations of your source.

        What if there's a debate as to whether Win7 delivers on
        time (on the 3rd anniversary of Vista) or gets pushed back
        until a certain level of enterprise adoption of Vista is
        achieved? Just a question.

        I do see an expensive ad campaign that was heralded as
        having a significant element of supplanting Apple as the
        Vista story tellers and which has only mentioned Vista as
        the operating system one loves when it sneaks in the door
        under an alias and with a personal trainer. This looks like a
        compromise or direction change to me.

        Meanwhile, if this debate were taking place, leaking Win7
        builds may be a way to put pressure on the decision
        makers to keep Win7 on time. The leaks may even be
        tolerated because top management is leaning towards
        moving on from Vista as soon as it politically can.
        DannyO_0x98
        • Even better

          the leaks could be a new method of public beta testing without public knowledge, there reading all the blogs we post and re-designing as we speak..or write. OK maybe i should say public UI testing.
          mrjoctave@...
  • What secrecy plan?

    Common sense would tell anyone that they want to create a Windows 7 buzz to get people looking forward to it. They are going to leak and drop all kinds of stuff to the folk hyped up.
    storm14k
    • RE:What secrecy ... ?

      It's <strong>closed</strong> source. That's about it.

      ^o^
      n0neXn0ne
  • Too many versions again, like Vista

    Windows 7 Ultimate? You mean there are going to be 5 (?) different versions again? The same fiasco over Vista Capable / Win7 Capable labels running hobbled versions of the OS ?

    All smells like lipstick on a pig.
    Don Collins
    • What's the big deal with multiple versions?

      1.) Enteriprise version - unless you're buying volume licenses, you'll never likely come across this.

      2.) Home Basic - Only worth it if you don't want the eye candy or have a machine that's not capable of displaying it.

      This leaves only 3 versions most people will ever need to think about:

      3.) Home Premium - Good if you don't need advanced networking (read: Connecting to domains) and you're a home user.

      4.) Business - Good if you're a business user who connects to networks with a domain and don't need the Media Center stuff.

      5.) Ultimate - good if you have a need for both business networking AND media center stuff.

      Big fat hairy deal. It's not THAT confusing.

      As far as the "Vista Capable" logo bit goes - that's HARDWARE - not SOFTWARE. Get it straight.
      Wolfie2K3
      • All roads lead to Redmond........

        Or so Microsoft thinks.

        Fortunately, some of us know differently. We are not required to decide all possible destinations before purchasing a vehicle.

        A Toyota for New York
        A Chrysler for Detroit
        A Buick for Chicago
        A Volvo for Miami
        A Dodge for Houston
        A Cadillac for Las Vegas
        A Plymouth for Los Angeles
        A Pontiac for Seattle
        Annnnnd... A Lemon for Redmond

        Finally, last but not least.... A Linux
        Go anywhere anyplace anytime anyway anyhow.
        Ole Man
        • whatever

          "Finally, last but not least.... A Linux
          Go anywhere anyplace anytime anyway anyhow"

          Fine if you don't mind driving a Yugo.
          marks055@...
          • Yas, I'm sure it would be much more pleasant

            stuck (trapped) in an all day traffic jam and run out of $4 dollars a gallon gas with a Rolls Royce, than tooling around the countryside in a Yugo, enjoying the fresh air and view of nature.
            Ole Man
        • I think you meant

          A Boat for the Water
          A Car for the Road
          A 4x4 for the Mountains
          A Plane for the Skies
          Annnnnd A Coffin for the Ole Man

          Finally, last but not least.... put a plane in water and what happens.... don't tell me it becomes a boat, nah mate, u got to cut the wings off, cut the top off, hollow it out............. you could have brought a boat!!!
          mrjoctave@...
  • Win7 STILL asks for anti-virus software

    The fundamental point: Windows 7 STILL asks for anti-virus software. Linux is safe to use without any anti-virus (and gets safer every week).

    Windows is still broken, and will be until the day its architecture is immune to viruses. It's that simple.
    Don Collins
    • linux is not immune to virus

      linux is not immune to virus because a virus is just a program runs in the OS. Does linux run programs? YES of course, so linux is affected by virus too.
      In linux, like in Windows, when you run a piece of code, it can destroy files, it can modify and infect other programs, it can listen on a port and send out data, it can create a hidden service/daemon that performs malicious activities, etc.
      qmlscycrajg