Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 'Mango' update to get IE Mobile 9

By | February 10, 2011, 10:53am PST

Summary: What’s on tap for Microsoft at the upcoming Mobile World Congress? Word is we may hear more (officially) about Mango, the first “major” update to Windows Phone 7.

The Mobile World Congress show kicks off the week of February 14 and CEO Steve Ballmer will be keynoting that day. Since Microsoft won’t have the “NoDo” update bits ready yet, what will the Softies have to crow about at the confab?

From what I hear, we may get to hear a bit more (officially) about “Mango” the first “major” update of the Windows Phone 7 platform.

I first mentioned Mango a while back, noting that Microsoft was aiming to deliver that release in August/September 2011. From what I’m hearing from my contacts, getting the code to handset makers and carriers in time to get the Mango release to market for holiday 2011 is still the goal.

I also noted previously that the goal with Mango was to deliver HTML5 support for Windows Phone 7. The vehicle for this, according to my tipsters, is IE Mobile 9.

Yes, Microsoft is going to play a very fast game of catch up on the browser front with Windows Phone 7. Currently, WP7 phones are running a version of IE Mobile, known as IE Mobile 7, which that is a variant of IE 7 with some IE 8 functionality added. But Windows Phone 7s running Mango will be running a mobile version of IE 9, Microsoft’s latest, HTML5-compliant IE browser that the company is expected to release to the Web this spring.

(I am also hearing that Mango may not end up adding support for Silverlight in the browser, after all, in spite of earlier talk to the contrary. I guess that’s to be expected, now that Microsoft is downplaying Silverlight as a cross-platform runtime. Silverlight will remain one of the primary development tools for WP7, however.)

There are other new features that may or may not be part of Mango that are coming for WP7. (Some folks are hearing there will be no updates between NoDo, the first WP7 update, and Mango. NoDo is now due in early March, according to my contacts. But others, like Windows Phone Secrets author Paul Thurrott, have heard there will be interim updates between NoDo and Mango.)

Multitasking support for third-party apps, integration of Twitter directly into the People Hub on the phones are supposedly coming, too, though my contacts seemed vague on exactly when. (With Mango? Some time before Mango? Post-Mango?)

Microsoft also may be talking about new/updated hardware requirements for Windows Phone 7 phones at MWC, MobileTechWorld.com is reporting.

Just in case anyone in Redmond was feeling generous, I asked Microsoft for comment on what my sources told me about its Mango plans and timetable. I was told by a spokesperson: “We have no comment on the rumors.”

Guess we’ll find out on Monday if the “rumormongers” are right….

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RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 'Mango' update to get IE Mobile 9
tomlin21-24319035676893835085146735905770 11th Oct
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MS needs to strike a balance between updating too frequently to updating too sluggishly. My recommendation is that they provide updates every 2-3 months until things are "fixed." Even small updates that fix one or two things are good because it lets the user know they are actively working on the problems. The fact that the first update is 5 months since the phone's release makes it appear that MS is not serious about the phone. And so why should customers seriously consider the phone?

Their first update should have been 2 months ago and it should have solely focused on saving the camera settings. Seems like VERY easy thing to do. This March update should be all about providing CDMA support, enhanced app loading times, and copy/paste. Their next update should be in May and then another one in late July fixing whatever smaller bugs exist or missing features (like allowing the user to initiate a wireless sync). After that, IE9 can come in Sept.
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The features that Microsoft is crowing about for future Windows Phone 7 updates, is just basic functionality that every other mobile OS already has...


Copy-and-Paste
HTML5 in the browser

Every other mobile OS has a Webkit browser with HTML5. They all had this years ago. And Copy-and-Paste, well, the Apple Lisa had that in 1983
@zndac LOL yeah right iphone dont even have html5 also aplle lisa in 1983 hahaha windows mobile was frist dufest.
apple iphone took them 1 year to get copy and paste and video recording feature which i also find that a Big joke. So stop complaing has at least microsoft will add it soon and not like we have to wait 1 yr like what they did to iphone.
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Funny story
Michael Alan Goff 10th Feb 2011
Apple made the Lisa that had copy and Paste... then it took them until iOS version 3 to get it for the iPhone. As for HTML5, I don't actually see any point in rushing to HTML5. Why should they? We don't even know what HTML5 will eventually be.
@zndac

Dude, for real, iphone sucks compared to wp7. My Focus is waaay faster than an iphone4, the games are way cooler, and the interface is awesome. And at least I can tether for FREE !!!!
Microsoft is struggling to get one update out the door per year. Maybe they can just manage 2 updates, but probably not.

Microsoft is too busy trying to get its desktop Windows 8 running on tablets and phones, which means Windows Phone 7 is just another stop gap.

The next Windows Phone 7 update only brings Copy-and-Paste, of which it was a joke that C&P was not included from the beginning. Windows Phone 7 users are now frustrated by Microsoft's snail pace of updates.
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NoDo only brings copy and Paste?
Michael Alan Goff 10th Feb 2011
And here I was under the impression that it's bringing Windows Marketplace improvements, search improvements, CDMA support, various stability and performance improvements, and so forth.
@zndac Wrong again microsoft is still looking into windows phone 7 has they will lauch soon windows phone 8 so yes has not forgotten. You dont know what your talking about moron
@zndac
Can you enlighten us to how you know this? Plus you obviously have never worked in a software development environment. Functionality frequently is left out as part of the prioritization moving toward a product release. The fact that C&P was left out has no other meaning other than there were OTHER items with higher priority as part of the initial release...nothing more. Plus Microsoft has ALREADY stated publicly that the upcoming UPDATE will have C&P, PLUS other optimizations and improvements not specifically detailed as of yet. Was it a joke that iOS was release without C&P? Most likely for the same reasons...it didn't make the prioritization cut. (giving Apple the benefit of the doubt vs being clueless)
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@smfrazz And don't forget that every Apple fanboy out there said at the time that copy and paste was no big deal - finally after multiple iPhone revs they included it - NOW it's a "must have"

No biggy - it's part of the upcoming update - and WP7 already multitasks at least as well as the new iOS - the Mango update will extend the MT capabilities
@zndac I know that these timeframes can be frustraiting and can seem like an eternity, but rest assured we are absolutly committed to windows phone 7, we are absolutly commited to addressing customer issues, wants and needs.

Keep up the feedback...we do read these comments and take note.
@zndac
Considering by the time the first update is due out the OS will have been on the market for only 6 months at the max, this statement is incorrect. If the next update does indeed come out as mentioned in this article then the OS will have had at the minimum, 2, updates in it's first year. How does that compare with iOS? (4.1 doesn't figure because that was only to try and correct problems stemming from iOS4).
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Love my Windows phone 7
ipadsucks 10th Feb 2011
@zndac dont you remember apple iphone took them 1 year to get copy and paste and video recording feature which i also find that a Big joke. So stop complaing has at least microsoft will add it soon and not like we have to wait 1 yr like what they did to iphone. I love my windows phone 7 it works great in my business and personal use. Iphone is a joke it just all hype in real life it just a personal phone. Also at least my windows phone 7 woke me up using the alarm clock LOL.... Cant wait to see new mobile IE 9 browser for windows phone 7
@ipadsucks The iPhone 1.0 was released in January 2007, four years ago. It had no apps back then.

But now is 2011. Windows Phone 7 needs to be competitive with 2011 iPhone and Android, not compared to the 2007 model.
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It is competitive to them today
Michael Alan Goff 10th Feb 2011
It has a quick browser.
It has a good and snappy UI.
It has a decent number of apps, and useful ones.
It has the ability to make calls.
It has the ability to check email.

How is it not competitive?
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MS doesn't have a year
cc3d 10th Feb 2011
@ipadsucks
people buying phones now do not care how WinMoPho7 compares to iPhone at the same time in iPhone's life. They care about what they get for their money now. MS needs to be popping out updates ASAP! Waiting a year at a time will kill this platform as quickly as it is launched. MS needs to wake up!
WP 7 is a great phone and nobody is frustrated about it!!! except Apple fanboys...
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Scary stuff indeed
General C# 10th Feb 2011
Am I the only one who took note of the "...getting the code to handset makers and carriers in time to get the Mango release to market..." Why would this be the case? I thought that all WP7 updates will be pushed from Microsoft straight to the device with no carrier intervention? If Carriers and OEM get involved in updates then WP7 is doomed to suffer the fate of its fragmented predecessor and Android.

Sorry Microsoft, but once again you appear to have failed at execution. Goodbye!
@General C# This is how all updates are done REGARDLESS of how the update is eventually delivered...it's part of the release process that we have do to with our operators.

We do this because we don't want to deliver broken updates to our customers. We really do love our customers...except you General, we don't really like you that much. (no smiley face...ah, OK General, you get a smiley face too =])
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RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 'Mango' update to get IE Mobile 9
jBundy.com-23888787227187618789222526229331 Updated - 11th Feb 2011
@General C#

that should be the case as shown here: http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/leaked-slides-show-windows-phone-7s-update-strategy-windows-li/. I hope it still is.
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I bought a Samsung Focus almost a month ago and I think the phone is beautiful and the OS is very stable, I took a chance on it because I'm a .NET developer and was looking to develop for it (this was before MS announced that you can get developer phones for it). I am disappointed that there have been no updates because I did read that there were potentially two updates one in January and one in February. I'm not that big on the cut/paste but it would be nice to have but other things like custom ringers would be nice. I'd like to see gapless playback on the player also and more apps but I do realize that takes time. As a developer I understand that deadlines can move and/or you need more testing but the mobile world is a little different especially when you're behind the competition. You could at least publish or commit what you're going to update and when. I see a lot of frustration regarding MS is not forthcoming with information, is too slow, and you can't contact them for any feedback.

So anyways, I'm still debating returning the phone for an Android phone because they do have most of the apps and functionality I want and C# is very similar to Java as well.

Microsoft, please be more forthcoming on information and events. And yes you should bypass the carriers and publish more updates often. Listen to your customers or you'll always be fighting a losing battle and not keep the customers that you do have.

Also can we finally figure how to add a microSD card or which ones will work on the Samsung Focus.
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Update Schedule
techgen 10th Feb 2011
This update schedule is just pitiful and embarrassing. The first update to Windows phone should have been months ago. The possible idea that there won't be any updates between NoDo and Mango is just so sad to me. I want to get on this platform so bad, but it's so hard to when Microsoft won't give this platform the attention it needs. This all needs to start with Microsoft taking back control of the updating process. So far, I think Microsoft's worst decision with Windows Phone was to cede control of the updating process to carriers. It's causing a whole bunch of problems and is a huge bottleneck.
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No thank you...
james347 10th Feb 2011
...i'll pass.
Am I the only one or anyone else is observing this pattern here in talkback? Why always fandroids and apple fanbois see issues with Microsoft's update schedule for Windows Phone 7. I know a lot of them have never really looked the physical device, but still try advocate that Microsoft should rush or something similar. Majority of Windows Phone 7 users are not that worried about no updates until now because they have life outside of mobile phone. Sheesh.
@MJ - Even if Microsoft are downplaying Silverlight's role as a cross-platform browser plug-in why would they keep it off one of their own platforms and therefore exclude content on the web that does use it (e.g. media players like ITV and Sky in the UK)?
Silverlight is/was dead end from the start - more of the MS Gate's strategy Windows Everywhere - sell more "Vista" type products with billion dollar propaganda.
HTML5 is standard - look at Google Chrome - it is Itnernet EveryWhere stupid - not Windows
I agree... At least the Windows Phone O/S ALWAYS had bluetooth working no matter how you hold the phone !!
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RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 'Mango' update to get IE Mobile 9
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RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone 7 'Mango' update to get IE Mobile 9
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