Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

Summary: The just-announced Nokia Lumia 900 Windows Phone is running Mango Commercial Release 2. What is this beast?

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Keen-eyed Windows Phone watchers may have noticed this week a seemingly new operating-system version listed on the Nokia Lumia 900 spec list: Mango Commercial Release 2.

What is this thing? Could it be "Tango1" -- the TangoMango thing that supposedly is/was the next version of the Windows Phone operating system to follow Mango (a k a Windows Phone OS 7.1)?

Nope. Microsoft officials confirmed this week that Mango Commercial Release 2 is just Mango plus the 8107 service release. (The 8107 release is the bunch of Windows Phone fixes anchored by the "disappearing keyboard" fix.)

Microsoft officials said late last week that the company had delivered the 8107 service release to its carrier partners and that it would be up to them as to when, how and if they rolled it out to existing Windows Phone customers.

A couple of other Windows Phone tidbits -- beyond the Windows Phone LTE news from earlier this week:

And how bout that big Nokia ad for the Lumia 710 splashed across the New York Times Web site today?

Here comes the real Windows Phone marketing ... in the U.S, at least (and at last).

Topics: Microsoft, Mobility, Nokia, Operating Systems, Software, Telcos, Windows

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  • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

    I really wish they would stop this non-sense about carriers deciding to deploy updates, they need to just happen.
    WixosTrix
    • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

      @WixosTrix the problem is Microsoft harped about Android updates, while allowing the OEMs/carriers to control the releases of Microsoft???s Windows mobile Phone updates. Windows mobile Phone 7.x OS contains all the things the Windows fanboys complained about with both Android, and iOS. Yet even though Windows mobile Phone 7.x has these thing that were considered bad for he competition, suddenly they are Okay when Microsoft does it.<br><br>Foe example:
      Windows Fanboy: The iPhone sux! you can not even change the battery. Only an Id10t would buy an iPhone!!!!
      Same Fanboy looking at Microsoft Lumia 800: This phone is the best thing ever, re[placing sliced bread as the greatest thing!!!!
      iPhone user: Umm, but you cannot replace the battery, and you ragged on the iPhone for that
      Windows Fanboy: Shut up you fool, this phone is l337, removable batteries are not important, as long as I have my Facebook and twitter. I love Steve Ballmer!!!

      Windows Fanboy: Android sux!!!! the system is fragmented because the OEMs/carriers control the update process!!!
      Android user: Wait does Microsoft issue the updates, or does the carrier have the final say?
      Windows Fanboy: Shut up you fool, this phone is l337. Microsoft said they know the best way to handle updates. It only sux when it is Android, or iOS! Windows is l337, and everything else sux!!!!
      Rick_Kl
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @Rick_Kl

        UR Pathetic.
        SmoothDouglas
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @Rick_Kl
        With WP you have a choice of removable battery or unibody.

        So far, every device is on the current version of WP. For those who suffer from the disappearing keyboard bug (I've never seen it), not getting this patch will be a bummer, but it's only a patch.

        There is plenty wrong with WP, but it has so far gone through the update process much more smoothly than Android.
        x I'm tc
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @SmoothDouglas what is pathetic is the Windows fanboys. They ranted about the shortcomings of both Android, and iOS. When Windows mobile Phone has the shortcomings of both, and a higher price tag to boot. suddenly these thing that were show stoppers for the other Oses, did not matter. The oversized animated icons are all that matters and the zune software. Give me a break, apply the same standards and objectively compare, or shut the hell up!

        The Frys ad lists the Microsoft Lumia 800, 16 GB at $799. An unsubsidized iPhone 4s, 32 GB is only $749. Who is overcharging?
        Rick_Kl
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @jdakula I am pointing out the hypocrisy of the Windows Fanboys. I could point out the hypocrisy of the Apple and android fanboys too, if I chose to But this is not the appropriate venue for that. Believe me I have been called a Windows fanboy, an Apple fanboy, and an Android fanboy. even though I am none of the above
        Rick_Kl
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @Rick_Kl

        The problem is Rick is that you're stereotyping people who like Windows Phone with obsessed, over the top, illogical fans.

        I like Windows Phone for various reasons, but when I make an argument I bring up facts to back up that argument. If I have an opinion, it typically isn't unbelievable and I'll make it clear that it's an opinion. I have nothing against Android or Apple. They make great phones. I simply like Windows Phone better.

        I'm afraid you crash head-on into the illogical, over-the-top category of whatever fan (or hater) you are.

        I find it really sad that to make yourself feel better about your decisions or something that wronged you, you feel the need to make rediculous, hateful, and frankly annoying posts.
        SmoothDouglas
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @SmoothDouglas I have not run into anyone on ZDNet that as given me a rational reason to look at one of these over-priced God-Phones.$800 (at 799.99 , you might just as well call it 800) for a phone with only 16 GB of storage, no front facing camera, no user replaceable battery, no expandable storage, and it is welded shut at the factory in China. These are all things the Windows fanboys claimed wrong with the iPhone. Now that Microsoft has put their Lumia phone on the market, these show stoppers are suddenly no big deal?
        Rick_Kl
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @Rick_Kl
        Rick_K, we all know that you are getting nervous that MS and it's hardware partners are set to make big wakes in 2012, but come one man, keep the moronic comments to yourself.
        mikroland2.0
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @mikroland2.0 I have three words for you
        Pot, Kettle, Black.
        If these phones are priced as ridiculously high, as they are now, there is no chance of getting past that 1.2% mark
        Rick_Kl
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @Rick_Kl

        No the complaints about the Android update was that some carriers NEVER rolled out features and hoped you would go buy a new phone!

        Vendors for Android do NOT have to roll out the updates like they do with wp7.

        The REAL complaint and problem with Android is when they release a new version it THEN goes out to the hardware handset makers. So HTC, Samsung, Motorola etc. modify this code so it "works" with their hardware.

        THEN the code is sent out to the carriers (AT&T, Vodafone etc). Then those carriers can modify the phone and add even more crap ware.

        THEN you keep your fingers crossed and HOPE you get the update that is THEIR choice to roll out or not. As noted some carriers will not even bother to release an update for a given phone model. (they simply tell you to go out and buy the next great phone).

        In a nutshell:
        It is nothing short of a galactic mess and THAT is what everyone is complaining about in regards to Android.

        In the case of wp7, Microsoft has a hardware spec that all phone makers MUST follow. (the vendors don't modify the windows phone code ??? they supply a BIOS).

        Microsoft updates the OS code and it goes out to the carriers that WILL roll out the update. As I pointed out so what if that update is staggered? Big deal. You WILL get the update. There is not the fragmentation and mess that android has become.

        The idea that people are comparing and complaining about a update that is staggered over a few months by vendors compared to the nightmare and mess of Android and their updates is beyond stupid on your part.

        No one EVER to my mind compared the sensible and staggered roll out updates for wp7 to that of vendors or carriers simply choosing to not update.

        The issue for Android was not that the update came out at the same time or a different time. It was simply a crap shoot if you EVER in fact will get the update. And the other issue is how many people in-between messed with the OS update since it left Google.

        I don't mind a complaint on your part, but this one is based on your ignorance and is without merit.

        As for the battery? Well obviously the iPhone drones do NOT have a choice. The difference here again is WE DO have that choice. The only ones saying they like the no battery removal in some particular Nokia are the Iphone users and that is fine with me.

        Just because SOME wp7 users think sealed case is fine, don't lump me or others in that group who have a wp7 phone with a removable battery. I made my choice and I have a removable battery on my wp7. To my knowledge I know of no one who prefers a removable battery have changed their mind and again your point is without merit.
        kallal2
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @Rick_Kl
        >Microsoft has put their Lumia phone on the market

        Huh, so you look like a fool and now resort to lying in public? Nokia is the handset maker and it not microsfot's phone at all. They have vendor deals with HTC, Nokia, Samung and so on. Grasping at straws after being made a fool here I see, and thus you now have to lie in public.
        kallal2
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @kallal once Microsoft purchased Nokia for $2 billion, it is all semantics. Nokia is not a stand alone company, it is a part of Microsoft. If Microsoft assigned Nokia patents to Mosaid, then it stands to reason that Microsoft owns the patents they assigned to this third party. There are laws against giving something you do not own to another party. It is called theft, and is definitely against the law. Nokia being a company on paper only, makes sense, as they are beholden to Microsoft???s whims.
        Rick_Kl
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @Rick_Kl
        What a L*oser..
        owlnet
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @Rick_Kl

        And now you resort to conspiracy theories. Pathetic. Using your argument, I could criticize Android for not having removable batteries because the Droid Razr doesn't have one.
        spacespeed1
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @Rick_Kl <br><br>What the heck are you talking about? When did Microsoft purchase Nokia?<br><br>It is simple fabrication and a lie on your part to claim in public that a phone built by Nokia and sold by Nokia is to some how on a an issue of "semantics" to be called Microsoft's phone? It is an insane and ridicules position without merit on your part.
        kallal2
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @Rick_Kl

        Blah blah blah Microsoft bad everyone else good blah blah blah
        hopp64
      • You have got to be kidding.

        @Rick_Kl

        I will start this right off by saying I have had an iPhone 3g for quite some time and am very happy with it and when I upgrade I expect it may well be another iPhone.

        Or...I might switch if I am convinced I have a really good reason to. I don't have any particular kind of product loyalty beyond buying what will do what I want. And I tend to know what I want.

        First off, far beyond Windows users being the ones who complain about what other products do or the way they function only to find the same thing acceptable in Windows products is a crock as compared to that type of behavior in Apple fanatics. They are by far the worst, or at least certainly the most vocal. Android hasn't been around long enough to show any kind of long term trend one way or the other.

        Secondly, Android fragmentation is something fairly different then just carriers being in control of updates. You should know that and if you don't you shouldn't be commenting on it. Its one thing waiting for your carrier to do the Windows update, Android fragmentation has more to it then that.

        http://www.readwriteweb.com/mobile/2011/11/analyst-android-fragmentation.php

        http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2395401,00.asp

        And I haven't seen anyone yet say being not able to change a battery in a Windows phone is great and not being able to change one in an iPhone is bad. For the record, I don't think its a good idea in any case, but neither is it a deal breaker, hence I own an iPhone and am thus far plenty happy with it.

        Its going to be the hardware/software blend that dictates what will be my upgrade. Not what company produces the OS.

        And just so you know, your post sounds pretty childish.
        Cayble
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @Rick_Kl <br><br>WRONG.<br><br>I got the new version of WP7 (Mango) a year after I bought my phone. However, my roommate who got his Android phone (4GEVO) around the same time can't upgrade to the latest ICS version of Android.<br><br>Carriers are naturally going to have some weight in releases, but in many cases with Android, the phones can't even upgrade, let alone waiting for the actual upgrade.<br><br>A month or so in update variation is acceptable. A year or never, is completely unacceptable. Plus on my Windows Phone, I can still do the manual update no problem.
        spaulagain2
      • RE: Microsoft's Windows Phone Mango Commercial Release 2: What's inside

        @Rick_Kl When did Microsoft buy Nokia exactly? I think I've asked you this before and have gotten no response.
        athynz