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Midori team member Jonathan Shapiro leaving Microsoft

By | March 18, 2010, 11:37am PDT

Summary: It’s been awfully quiet on the Midori front lately. But here’s one bit of news related to Microsoft’s (mostly) secret operating-system incubation project: Midori team Jonathan Shapiro is leaving the company after less than a year.

It’s been awfully quiet on the Midori front lately. But here’s one bit of news related to Microsoft’s (mostly) secret operating-system incubation project: Midori team Jonathan Shapiro is leaving the company after less than a year.

One of the chief developers of the BitC language and Coyotos operating system, Shapiro joined Microsoft to work on Midori last April.

In a March 9 note to the BitC mailing list, Shapiro tipped his hand (a bit):

“Since I’m not formally out of Microsoft yet, I need to emphasize that I’m not engaged in this discussion (about the future of BitC)on behalf of the company, that so far as I know Microsoft has no interest in BitC one way or the other. They’ve been gracious in allowing me to restart this set of conversations before my last day (which is March 19th).”

Coyotos, like Midori, is a microkernel-based operating system. If and when it makes it out of incurbation, Midori is expected to take the form of a distributed, object-oriented operating system which ultimately may supplant Windows. Microsoft officials repeatedly have refused to comment on Midori’s timetable or goals. We do know that Microsoft assembled an all-star team to work on the project, however.

I asked Shapiro, via e-mail, about his reasons for leaving but didn’t receive more information from him.

Microsoft Senior Vice President of Technical Strategy Eric Rudder is said to be heading up the Midori project. Interestingly, however, Rudder most recently was demonstrating Microsoft’s three-screens-and-a-cloud strategy at TechEd in Dubai.

Does Shapiro’s departure and Rudder’s recent public appearance flogging Windows Phone 7 mean that Midori is no more? Or might it mean that elements of Midori have moved into a Microsoft product group (or groups) — the next natural phase of an incubation? Remember: Midori has a lot of implications for Microsoft’s future cloud strategy, so it’s not entirely odd that Rudder was talking up devices and the cloud. Still, all this does have me curious.

Microsoft still isn’t talking in any way about Midori, so there’s no more official information as to what’s happening with the project. Anyone out there have any information (or even educated guesses)?

(Thanks to reader Sam for the tip on Shapiro leaving.)

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RE: Midori team member Jonathan Shapiro leaving Microsoft
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M$ needs only lawyers and salesmen.
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Correction: "Very possibly an army of lawyers" it would seem!!!
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linux geek2 21st Mar 2010
how does he do it people? doesn't this just prove how intelligent linux users are? switch now!
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Hhmmm.
matthew_maurice 18th Mar 2010
I think it's always telling when a publicized ?fairly senior" hire
leaves a company within a year, or as in this case just over 6
months. His first batch of options likely haven't vested yet,
and I doubt he got a grant of shares. So either someone else
made him an offer he couldn't refuse ( last year his list said
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than they need (or want) wherever they go.

So, I imagine that he just did not like the
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Ron Bergundy 18th Mar 2010
Just look at all the top notch talent that left Google, the same Google that paid these people TONS of money.

Just like this M$ dude, no ammount of money can keep the best and the brightest from going where they want!!!
best and the brightest, that is the trade-off. They
are very likely to go off at the first thing more
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markbn 18th Mar 2010
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brightest more likely to want to work in a closed
environment where everything is top secret, or, on
an open project where the code is open? Why?
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de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 19th Mar 2010
Many of the best and brightest I've met are astonishingly smart in narrow subjects, but are often unable to tie their own shoelaces.

There's a reason that the stereotype of the uuber geek is someone living in a dark room isolated from everyone else eating pizza and drinking 'dew.

Most really driven hyper-intelligent types would rather have all the resources they need to research and study their subject of choice than have to regularly publish papers or present their work openly.
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bendib 18th Mar 2010
He is a traitor to FOSS. He can go ahead and go with Novell, I hate them anyway. SuSe sucks. Fedora for the win.
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Ron Bergundy Updated - 18th Mar 2010
It really really sounds like you're "in the know" on this!!!

Is it true that M$ bugs their phones at work and home? I hear they put tracking devices on all their people, following then covertly in public, watching their houses, all to keep them isolated from all the other people in the software community!

Google on the other hand is so cool! I hear that developers freely talk openly with the guests in the buildings about Google plans and stuff, what they're working on, everything!!
I bet YOU know everything their working on right now, so fill us in!

I can see why EVERYBODY is leaving M$ in DROVES to work for companies like Google!!
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NT.
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I think MS is SO evil
LiquidLearner 18th Mar 2010
they probably gave him AIDS and that's why he is leaving. They likely followed that up by making him work long hours as a catholic choir boy at night where the priests were able to have their way with him.

I say this because MS is just that evil that I believe they'd do this. It's just as likely as what anyone else posted.
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