More mobile patent madness: Microsoft licenses 74 smartphone-related patents from Acacia
Summary: Sometimes it's cheaper to head off a potential problem than fight -- a stance the old Microsoft regime would repudiate, but one that the current one increasingly has been pursuing. On October 7, Microsoft did just that, by licensing 74 mobile-related patents from Acacia.
Sometimes it's cheaper to head off a potential problem than fight -- a stance the old Microsoft regime would repudiate, but one that the current one increasingly has been pursuing.
On October 7, Microsoft licensed 74 patents for an undisclosed amount with Acacia Research Corp. and Access Co. Ltd, the Japanese company that acquired PalmSource, the maker of the Palm operating system, according to a report in the Wall Street Journal.
Acacia noted the Microsoft deal in a press release, which said Microsoft had licensed "a portfolio of patents related to smartphones owned by Acacia subsidiary SmartPhone Technologies LLC and Access Co. Ltd.," which included "inventions created by Access Co., Ltd., Palm, Palmsource, Bell Communications Research and Geoworks.
Acacia, which has been described as "the mother of all patent trolls," makes its money by buying companies with patents and then threatning/suing companies it claims to be infringing on those patents. According to a BusinessWeek story from earlier this year, Acacia has filed at least 337 patent-related lawsuits during its 18-year history. Look at the list of companies that have ended up licensing patents from Acacia this year alone. On the long list: IBM, Philips, U.S. Cellular, Seagate, Zoho, Toshiba and lots, lots more.
This isn't the first time this year that Microsoft has licensed IP from Acacia. In May, Microsoft licensed patents from Acacia for "enhancing image resolution." In January, as part of a settlement agreement, Microsoft licensed technology from Acacia for "aggregating and expressing geographically linked data."
The Journal said some of the patents which Microsoft licensed this week are the subject of a lawsuit Acacia filed against Apple, RIM, Samsung Electronics, Motorola and other smartphone makers. (Microsoft was not named in that suit.) The patents in question covered capabilities like e-mail synchronization, among other technologies.
Microsoft -- like nearly every player in the smartphone market -- has been at the center of patent litigation and settlements this year. HTC agreed to license patents from Microsoft to head off potential patent-infringement trouble involving Android.. And last week, Microsoft sued Motorola for alleged patent infringement on a handful of Microsoft's mobile OS and ActiveSync technologies.
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Good for Microsoft. Nice to see them set a good example for the others
RE: More mobile patent madness: Microsoft licenses 74 smartphone-related patents from Acacia
Acacia is the ultimate patent troll and has attempted extortion before, and sometimes when companies fight back, the patents are invalidated. Acacia harassed companies about a streaming media patent they owned and when satellite companies fought back, they got the patent invalidated. Business method patents need to go.
RE: More mobile patent madness: Microsoft licenses 74 smartphone-related patents from Acacia
Troll harder.
Bubble Patents
If Acacia decides to act against Microsoft's licensees...
It will be a token price
Shame they can't just make good products that customers want to buy, but that's Microsoft for you.
As ever, if Microsoft's main claim as to why you should license its phone is : "to not be sued by patent trolls" then it's phones can't be any good and thus won't sell.
The people who buy handsets don't care about patent trolls, and don't opt for one handset over another according to what troll is suing the maker.
RE: More mobile patent madness: Microsoft licenses 74 smartphone-related patents from Acacia
RE: More mobile patent madness: Microsoft licenses 74 smartphone-related patents from Acacia
Admittedly I know next to nothing about patents... but it would seem to me that if MS licenses the patents from Acacia and create the phone software. Then phone makers license MS's Phone software, that they'd be covered under MS's agreement with Acacia. No?
That's what Motorola thought with Android
RE: More mobile patent madness: Microsoft licenses 74 smartphone-related patents from Acacia
I am not sure but do phone manufacturers' license Android from Google ? Or Google just gives it away from free ? Because if it gives it away for free then the scenario that you mention is different from what Badgered is mentioning.
RE: More mobile patent madness: Microsoft licenses 74 smartphone-related patents from Acacia
For that scenario to be the same, Google would have to have licensed those patents through MS... and Motorola would then have to license the Android software through Google. I'm not sure if that did or did not happen though.
You're asuming that Google had the right to pass the license on.
A good deal of licensed IP is done in that manner.
If that's the case...
If that's the case then all you can say is that Google has bought a license to use in its own phones, the physical devices, not the OS.
If that's the case then people should stop writing that Google has bought licenses for Android.
A little more accuracy in reporting would be welcome.
Os Reload, In a sense
But it wouldn't make sense for MS to license out their Ip to Google, while allowing Google to give it out for free to 1000 other companies, so I'm assuming that Google didn't expect the Nexus one to be a failure, and was licenising it for themselves.
So yes, I think they did license it for Android, but particually for the version they didn't release, as they were modifying it for use on the Nexus one.
Hilarious!
MS pays to license tech, they are evil.
MS doesn't pay to license tech, they are evil.
Double standards cued very early today!!
On zdnet MS is always guilty of something
But seriously, patent issues are the fault of govt as they issue patents, and run the courts that hear patent cases.
RE: More mobile patent madness: Microsoft licenses 74 smartphone-related patents from Acacia
Double standards according to the straw man you have just set up. Nicely done.
Stupid
Where is the incentive to invent?
Improving the incentive to invent is the whole reason the patent system was created.
It certainly no longer fulfils that role - in fact it is now being used by big business as an income earner and as a dis-incentive to invent.
No such thing as patent troll
This doesnt mean I agree with this as govt does a lot of stupid things. At one time, they said it was permissable to buy and sell slaves.
The govt runs the patent office and the courts that hear patent cases...both have failed us.
RE: More mobile patent madness: Microsoft licenses 74 smartphone-related patents from Acacia
Maybe, maybe not... but to me any company buying patents they had nothing to do with creating just to sue other companies... I'd define as a troll.