More signs of a new Vista SP1 build waiting in the wings

More signs of a new Vista SP1 build waiting in the wings

Summary: That new beta build of Windows Vista Service Pack (SP) 1 that almost went live a week ago still has yet to surface. But it may be waiting in the wings, as a few resourceful Vista tinkerers discovered this past weekend.

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Speaking of service packs, that new beta build of Windows Vista Service Pack (SP) 1 that almost went live a week ago still has yet to surface. But it may be waiting in the wings, as a few resourceful Vista tinkerers discovered this past weekend.

More signs of a new Vista SP1 build waiting in the wings"Seems with a little tweak, the old registry file that Microsoft provided to testers (that got leaked) can be used to download a new build of Vista SP1, 6001.17036," reported an "All About Microsoft" reader. There's "no way to really tell at the moment if its the RC (Release Candidate) build, but I guess things are pretty imminent now."

On the "My Digital Life" site, there's more information:

"Windows Vista Service Pack 1 Beta build 6001.16659.070916-1443 v.275 has been upgraded to new version, and in the same time also patched and closed the hole of use registry tweak that allows previous release of Vista SP1 beta to be downloaded from Windows Update. However, the registry hack to download Vista SP1 beta still work with minor change to registry key to download the latest version of the service pack. However, it’s not certain if the new release is the Service Pack 1 Release Candidate (RC) Preview that accidentally leaked to MSDN earlier this month, and the name in Windows Update still says it’s Windows Vista Service Pack 1 Beta."

Microsoft has declined to provide any more details of its timetable for Vista SP1, beyond stating that the company is hoping to deliver the final SP1 code in the first calendar quarter of 2008.

Microsoft officials declined to say when the company plans to make a test build of Vista SP1 avaiable for download by more testers via the Microsoft Developer Network (MSDN). Currently, about 12,000 testers are dabbling with Vista SP1 test builds.

Update: Vista users who don't want to wait until SP1 might be interested in the three newest Vista updates that Microsoft will be rolling out via Windows Update this week. There's yet another general reliability and performance update; a Windows Media Center update; and a USB core update all coming down the pike this week.

Topics: Windows, Microsoft, Operating Systems, Software

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Mary Jo has covered the tech industry for 30 years for a variety of publications and Web sites, and is a frequent guest on radio, TV and podcasts, speaking about all things Microsoft-related. She is the author of Microsoft 2.0: How Microsoft plans to stay relevant in the post-Gates era (John Wiley & Sons, 2008).

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  • Engrish?

    Good article rendered illegible by lack of proofreading (or was the text copied from a foreign news release?):

    "and in the same time also patched and closed the hole of use registry tweak that allows previous release of Vista SP1 beta to be downloaded from Windows Update. However, the registry hack to download Vista SP1 beta still work with minor change to registry key to download the latest version of the service pack."

    I can puzzle out the meaning - but why should I have to? Come on folks - tighten up!
    oliverrp@...
  • RE: More signs of a new Vista SP1 build waiting in the wings

    Who is really that fussed . Vista just does not grab my attention , the cost is unjustified , I have better things to spend my hard earned dollars on and frankly until it is obviously 50% faster and the design is restored back to something resembling XP I am just not that interested. XP does everything I need , faster , cheaper , better , as securely as I require , and no new learning curve. Microsoft is clueless when it comes to actually listening to its customers .. at last people are not buying the frog anymore hoping against hope it will actually turn out to be a princess and we are no longer fixing Microsoft's design stuff ups for free as has been the case in the past. They are really ticking a lot of the older traditional supporters off I have to say by ignoring our requirements.

    Ken
    ramnet@...
    • ok so,

      when a 3-D Holographic Operating System is developed, you can stick with your 2-D Windows XP, since you don't want any learning curve slowing you down. It's ok, some people prefer to live in the past. ;)
      Khyron
      • 3D Holographic?

        Ummmmm, Aero was taken from beryl (aka Compiz) and poorly implemented, and the GUI looks like a mac. don't know where you see holographics in Visduh. Its a resource PIG and buggy. There is nothing really new or innovative in Visduh unless you count DRM (blah).It took M$ 7 years to get XP usable and it looks like it will longer for this new mess they got themselves into. I'll stick with Gentoo tyvm.
        Dave32265
        • What's in a name?

          Visduh...that's like WinDOHs...
          I'm quite happy with SimplyMEPIS Linux, like they say, SimplyMEPIS simply works...
          Be well
          AmraLeo
        • Message has been deleted.

          evilkillerwhale@...
          • Need help with your attitude?

            "Vista can run on a 486 with 256 MB RAM"

            HAHAHAHA thats funny I doubt Visduh could even recognize EDO RAM.
            And on a 486? What drugs are you taking? The only thing I will agree on is OSX is a good OS but the name calling just shows how ignorant you are ;-) BTW Aero is nothing more than a copy of beryl. The 3D desktop came into linux long before Visduh and sure its a different architecture. It has to run on the NT file system Duh! Mepis Gentoo Ubuntu and Knoppix on a hard drive load way faster than Visduh and is not loaded down with half the crap Visduh has. They also work out of the box and I have yet to have to hunt for drivers to get a piece of hardware to work. No, linux isn't perfect, no OS is, but for the short time its been around compared to M$ monopoly, it's come into it's own at a far greater pace. Can Visduh run off a pen drive or a cd? I think not. Sounds to me you are just another fanboy with your lips stuck to Monkey Boys a**. Maybe you two can share a banana together.
            Dave32265
          • Ridiculous?

            I sure hope you're being sarcastic...if not, you're sooo disillusioned. I haven't used Visduh, have used 98se, ME, and XP Pro; I MUCH prefer Mepis. But, to each their own. Oh, and watch who you call moron...as it's you're, not your. Your implies possession, and you're is a contraction of "you are". And before saying stick anything in anything's behind, you might pull your head out of yours. 'Nuff said...
            And despite your obvious bias...Be well...
            AmraLeo
          • Oops...

            I guess that message was deleted between the time I read it and the time I posted. Heh...
            AmraLeo
      • I'm all for an improved OS.

        I just think 'improved' should mean more than a neat, but glitchy apearance, and a possibly 'safer' but annoying security system.

        Vista to me is NOT an amprovement, most of the 'GREAT' features are things that have nothing to do with the running of software.

        I don't buy an OS because it's pretty, it's intended to make running my apps on my hardware possible, it has NO OTHER PURPOSE.

        Personally I prefer 2k over XP, and XP over Vista, simply because a great deal of the added features are useless.
        On the same hardware, 2k is noticeably faster than XP, and XP is faster (with less glitches) than Vista.
        If Vista was a better all around OS, it would be installed, NOT sitting in my desk drawer.

        Yeah, I drive a manual shift truck because I don't care for an automatic. Old tech, but I get approx 30k between clutch rebuilds, have more control over the truck on slippery surfaces, get overall better MPG, and my last truck lasted well over 400,000 miles before it was totaled in an accident with less then $2000 in repairs over the entire time I owned the truck.

        new does NOT mean BETTER. Most often the definition of 'better' from a manufacturer/publisher point of view means that it will increase profit margins. not be better for the user.

        Ken.
        merc2dogs`
      • Don't think that's the issue at all.

        In fact, I know it isn't. I use both XP and Vista Home Premium (more because VHP is tied to the warranty of my HP laptop than real incentive to actually use Vista) and I can tell you from first-hand experience that Vista is much slower.

        Video performance, even with the current patches, is [i]far[/i] below XP's. (Example: Under XP, I get 80+ FPS in one particular game. Under Vista, with the same hardware (with the latest drivers), my frame rate rarely reaches 30.) It seems a bit strange to me that Vista cannot run even games with any speed!

        Have also tried (and do not like) ReadyBoost. ReadyBoost is almost pointless. Yes, application load speed is vastly improved, but actual application speed is not. This is yet another piece of the puzzle why Vista is so unpopular.

        UAC is a step in the right direction, but it would be better if UAC remembered that Vista's own utilities should be run as Admin and [u]not[/u] bother asking. I have used Linux's "su" and "sudo", and much prefer them. Heck, I prefer XP's Run-As to UAC's insanity.

        Windows has always been plagued by programmers not writing to the then-current Microsoft specs, though, so that is likely part of the problem.

        As for using a 2D OS in a world of 3D-based OSes? If the 2D OS runs apps faster, it makes sense to do that. New is not always better.
        Raymond Danner
        • funny thing

          I upgraded a system to Vista Ultimate from XP Pro and it ran Vista faster overall - however you do need at least 2GB RAM
          Paul Fletcher
  • say what???

    You must be a fanboy of Microsoft fanboy-in-chief Ed Bott.

    Actually, when there's a display technology that can do holograms I betcha Apple will be there first with Linux nipping it's heels and Microsoft a poor third as it tries to roll out SP-1 for Vista.

    ttfn

    John
    TtfnJohn
    • Sorry, hit wrong button!

      This message was meant as a rely to Khyron.

      ttfn

      John
      TtfnJohn
    • 3D Holographic OS & Display thoughts...

      I agree... But, if Apple develops and implements the capabilities, would it be a purely software solution or a hardware & software solution? If it's hardware based, will it be on an Intel Mac, or will it be independent of the system board hardware and based only in the video (ATI) side of things? Also, any bets on which Linux flavor would be the first to get there? Gentoo? Ubuntu? Mandriva?
      zach.winchester
      • Apple will probably ...

        lead the way on this. While linux is an innovative OS, it's more about functionality, stability and security more than eye candy (though they did an excellent job with compiz). My bets for a linux distro to incorporate it first would be Ubuntu, however. M$ just doesn't have the creativity. They will either buy out a company and take its technology or copy from someone else as per usual.

        As for implementation, I would guess it would be a software/hardware solution and would probably work best on Nvidia. They are, at this point, way ahead of AMD/ATI with driver and hardware compatibility.
        Dave32265
        • While Apple make kiddie toys...

          and Linux tinkers with its interface....

          http://research.microsoft.com/IVM/PhotoTours/
          http://research.microsoft.com/IVM/VideoTexture/
          http://research.microsoft.com/sds/
          http://research.microsoft.com/barc/mediapresence/MyLifeBits.aspx

          yes Apple really leads the way in consumer tat!!!
          Paul Fletcher
          • hmmmm...

            "and Linux tinkers with its interface...."

            Funny, the Vista GUI and menus look an awful lot like mac to me. And it took Billy Boy how long to figure out he shouldn't have integrated IE into the kernel? LOL *nix coders have known the problems with this for years. "Pretty" doesn't make things more functional and M$ has been tinkering with their GUI for years and still can't seem to get it right. When I see vista actually run without all the background garbage and becomes more backward compatible with software and hardware, then I may give it another look.

            "yes Apple really leads the way in consumer tat"

            Apple has been a leader in graphics software for years. And thats probably the reason most production companies like Paramount Disney and the like use it and linux. XP is good for playing games but my time is too valuable to sit for hours on end to do that kind of thing so I have little use for it. More power to those who do though. Bottom line is, I prefer to work with an OS that is secure, stable and functional. Something Vista is not.
            Dave32265
          • stable and secure

            Vista is as stable, functional and secure as any current OS out there. I use Macs, Windows (xp / vista) and Linux here in the shop so i disagree with you.
            There are some good reasons why vista is like it is. It should be the last 32 bit OS from M$ (64 bit OS's is a good thing). It removed almost 200 api's to enforce coding standards (software and hardware based) implemented in XP but not enforced (removal of these api's requires programmers to not be sloppy when coding their apps - escalating privileges to get your apps in is sloppy and poor code). Added a required level of security that had been missing for a long time (think win98).
            In the end it is all about choice. Choose what you want and have fun doing it just keep it real.
            After all the OS is only 1/3 of the real issue here.
            vi0l3t1975@...
          • Stable?

            Well, if you think getting an average of 5 - 10 calls every week from customers saying their Vista has crashed is stable then I guess Vista is rock solid :/ I will agree though, M$ is finally getting a clue on security, albeit a little late in the game, but they have quite a way to go yet. As I stated before look how long it took Billy Boy to finally get IE out of the kernel itself. If it takes M$ that long to realize the flaw in that thinking (or maybe he just didn't care) then Vista has an even longer row to hoe. I don't know where Vista is selling well on its own (outside of new machines), but it isn't in this area. Nobody wants it.
            Dave32265