Nokia shareholder 'revolt' against Microsoft WP7 deal ends after a day

By | February 16, 2011, 6:11am PST

Summary: The much-ballyhooed Nokia shareholder “revolt” over Nokia’s Windows Phone 7 adoption plan is over, a day after it began.

The much-ballyhooed Nokia shareholder “revolt” over Nokia’s Windows Phone 7 adoption plan is over, a day after it began.

Update: It turns out the “revolt” was nothing but a hoax. The Plan B blog page was taken down on began redirecting to a @NokiaPlanB Twitter account on February 16. A tweet revealed the alleged ruse, and the alleged creator of the hoax claimed to be nothing but a “very bored engineer who really likes his iPhone.”  I have no idea what’s real here — including the latest claim about his/her occupation and choice of phone.

According to the now-unavailable site, the nine anonymous shareholders, claiming to be former Nokia employees, banded together and proposed an alternative “Plan B” — which included the firing of Nokia CEO Stephen Elop — announced on their blog on February 16 that they had decided to ditch their effort. The Plan B team was responding to Nokia’s decision, announced this week, to put its eggs in the Windows Phone basket, rather than going with Android or staying the current Nokia Symbian/MeeGo course.

Despite claims that “hundreds” of shareholders were backing their play, the Plan B team said they had not received encouraging feedback from institutional investors. They also said they believed most of Nokia’s software talent would have left the company by the time their plan kicked in.

The Plan B group proposed restricting the Microsoft-Nokia Windows Phone partnership to North America; making MeeGo Nokia’s primary smartphone platform; guaranteeing Symbian’s promised lifespan to five years; and backing Qt as Nokia’s development platform.

Meanwhile, here are some other Nokia-Microsoft tidbits from around the Web that may be of interest — and appear to be real, not hoaxes:

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RE: Nokia shareholder 'revolt' against Microsoft WP7 deal ends after a day
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Verizon CTO is correct in saying the three major platforms at present are RIM, Apple and Google. (with Symbian in the rest of the world) - however roll on a few years and you probably get somewhere close to Elop's comments.
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@RonanSail - By the time Nokia gets around to making Windows Phone 7 handsets (2012), the platform won't exist any more.

It has no substantial ecosystem, and few people are buying Windows Phone 7 handsets.
@zndac

Really? Have a source? I have a few that say otherwise...
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That's funny because I read that
AllKnowingAllSeeing 16th Feb 2011
@zndac
Google's pretty upset that their Apps aren't selling anywhere close to those on Apple's App store.

Sure Android is thrown on a lot of phones, and many people buy the phone and really don't know or care what Android, apps, ect is. They make calls, really nothing more.

So, I can see why you're worried: that's all You and Google need is another (better, IMO) platform out there competing against it.

I can see why it would bother Google, not sure why it upsets you.
@zndac LOL! You're about as stupid as it gets. WP7 has over 8000 apps in less than four months. It's experiencing a faster rate of development than Android ever experienced. It's expected to hit between 45,000 and 50,000 apps before the end of the year. It's software development tools have been downloaded more times than any other platform. Not to mention their marketplace is incredible, and not even close to the fragmented joke that is Android. Heck, Google can't even put out an OS that can scroll smoothly.
@zndac

"It has no substantial ecosystem, and few people are buying Windows Phone 7 handsets."

What is the ecosystem for Android then? Android OEMs have their own differing skins, carriers have their own branding (Droid) and bundled crapware, many different versions of the OS are still out, some have their own proprietary connectors, basically everyone have their own agenda whitin the so called "ecosystem" of Android. But the strength of an ecosystem is for it to be cohesive.

Elop already mentioned that other WP7 OEMs will benefit from whatever Nokia brings to the table. The WP7 ecosystem benefits. Can't say the same for Android, whatever Samsung developers for their Android phones and tablets belongs to Samsung, only.
@zndac Based on what facts bone head.
@zndac

"It has no substantial ecosystem, and few people are buying Windows Phone 7 handsets. "

The in-the-hands-of-customers run rate for WP7 is roughly the same as the initial release of that other 'failure' called the iPhone.
@zndac I agree, they will move on to windows phone 8 then 9 and probably 10 after that.... actually I am hope this works out well of M$ and Nokia, perhaps Nokia can work with them to make a better windows phone....
@RonanSail

The Verizon CTO is as dumb as he looks because not only did he state RIM would remain ahead of WP7 he said WebOS was more relevant. To think that idiot makes more than I do!
@Mythos7 Outstanding! This guy is clearly batting way below his pay scale! It's almost worth inventing a new OS just to hear his BS once more!
@RonanSail There are over 120 million Windows phones in China alone. How does that square with your ludicrous claim?
@RonanSail Microsoft won and Google lost. Doesn't matter which way you try to spin it.

And there are over 120 million old Windows handsets in China. Surely this makes WM6 the biggest ecosystem?
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Nokia should have known that its hardware will not save Windows Phone 7.

The biggest value to the customer is not in the hardware. It is in the software stack, and Nokia has handed control of its software to Microsoft.
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I know. Android hasn't save much hardware either.
AllKnowingAllSeeing 16th Feb 2011
@zndac
And we already have two Android to WP7 converts here at the office, though most people own either an iPhone or feature phone. Only 3 Andoids left here. wink
@AllKnowingAllSeeing
Well I am an Android convert from WinMo and very happy.
There are 3 Androids here and 1 iPhone plus one WinMo user who is buying an Android as well. Good for him wink.
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Everything makes sense
mdemuth 16th Feb 2011
@zndac
Nokia either became another 'me too' Andoid maker, or did something to set themselves apart. And since they get to alter WM7 (or have their own flavor of it), I'd say they have.
The 2 burning questions are how much can they alter WM7, and how quickly can they do it?
@mdemuth

Exactly. Android is crowded and they didn't want to be a commodity player, seeing low margins. Android OEMs already started going the gimmick rout to try and differentiate themselves from the crowd.

Plus Nokia also is bringing their software and services to the table that will benefit a WP7 more so than Android (Apps, Maps, Nav).
@zndac You know an "expert" in these forums said the very same thing about WP7. Aahh here it is:
http://www.zdnet.com/tb/1-88704?p=3

Page down a few times; Here is the Jack Wagon quote

"By February it'll be reduced to obscurity like the Kin once the few who are actually stupid enough to buy one and then wake up and realize they need a lot more to use its full potential...in this economy Microsoft has just plain bad timing.

Bet the bank on it.

cyberslammer"

What a Jack Wagon
If it wasn't so annoying, I would say it was amusing to watch the naysayers flounder around looking for anything that could make this deal go away.

When I read "Calling it Quits" I almost fell out of my seat laughing. So-called "journalists" wanted so badly for this to be a major uprising. Apparently, institutional investors don't like radical things "like seating a bunch of kids on the board of directors". Anyone without confirmation bias would have seen this as the joke it was, not a revolt.

Nokia and Microsoft have plenty of challenges ahead. Don't worry, rabid haters... your day may come.
@Rich Miles
Well, Nokia is down >20% for the week. Here is the real rebellion.
@kirovs@...

But the stock is still up about 7% from when the Microsoft/Nokia rumours started in November. I'm waiting for my time to get back in on Nokia stock but I want to see if any more nervous nellies bail out first.
@Mythos7@...
No it is not. I am looking at NYSE:NOK, what do you look at? Lowest in Nov was above 9.20, no it is close to 9. If you look relative to the market it looks much worse.
There is no denying that stock price simply plunged the day the announcement was made form 11.70 to 9. That is the revolution, people voted with their wallets.
@kirovs@...

That's a fair point. I think 20% is a an acceptable "no confidence" vote.

Perhaps now that the distractions are out of the way, they can get busy putting a phone out. We'll see how they look a few months after they get some decent hardware on the market.
@Rich Miles, Exactly! Anyone with rudimentary knowledge of corporate law, finance, corporate structure would have easily seen this thing as a farce. I said as much yesterday. Yet the headline from ZdNet yesterday was Shareholder Revolt. No facts, no interviews, no nothing. It became an echo chamber with one site quoting another site. It all fit nicely with the meme of the day coming out MWC against WP7 and Nokia. I guess ZdNet is a blog and required to abide by typical news standards.
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M$ bribes overwelmed the rebels
Linux Geek 16th Feb 2011
the DOJ and SEC should investigate!
@Linux Geek Yeah right.Another idiot.
@JoeHTH - He's the cheap side-show Bob for lunch time entertainment when he's on a smoke break after the lunch time rush at Mc'D's
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Are you sure they didn't hire some goon
Michael Alan Goff 16th Feb 2011
to threaten their families?

I mean, this -is- Microsoft. *wink wink snicker*
@Linux Geek Nawww.. They should investigate Google for stealing Oracle Java IP. How about an injunction against selling any Android devices until Google can prove they wrote their own code? happy
@Tiggster You talking about all the open source IP?
@timspublic1@...

Well, it technically is still your IP even if you license it under an open source license. It remains your IP until you make it public domain (or it becomes public domain).
And that's the end of that ridiculous storyline, thanks Mary-Jo.

That previous 'shareholder revolt' story making the rounds was garbage that never should have gotten air time, regardless of whether a person has the opinion that the MS-Nokia deal is good or bad.
LOL did anyone expect this revolt to do anything? I know I didn't, especially when it came from a few Microsoft haters. It was over before it began. I see this as being a great deal between Nokia and Microsoft. The more WP7 phones out there the better. Its about time someome brought competition to the mobile market.
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It's too bad...
jackbond 16th Feb 2011
If the revolt lasted longer the open source losers would have less time to kill people in their moms' basements. Now that they've been rejected by society once again, it's back to killing.
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100,000 Euros?
bmgoodman 16th Feb 2011
Not to get to far off topic, but 100,000 Euros PER WORKER *plus* severance for losing your job? Wow. Having been previously laid off by a large U.S. communications company, my small severance package might now look terrible! grin
"Microsoft has done a nice job with Windows 7. It is a beautiful design" - on the fact that Nokia went with Wp7 over Android. BBC website.
@RonanSail ... Android was Google's response to Apple's iPhone. I don't think Google has any issues with Microsoft bringing WP7 into the Market.
@RonanSail Ouch - linux Geek/Donnie/et al probably are on the ledge right now over that one.
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This deal is great!!
EricDeBerg 16th Feb 2011
Nokia lose part of market with sabian and Microsoft want's to get some market parts with WP7 so the deal is perfect ...

The time nokia will be ready to ship first phone 7 smart phone WP7 will NOT have desapear. Absolutly not the WP7 platform is the next generation of winner Phone OS ... And Nokia get on the train ... I will get on the train too...

My next phone will probalby be a Nokia WP7 smart phone...

The real question is "Who will be second under Android?" IPhone or WP7 phones?

For sure the next phone that will lose will be RIM. Android will win the first place over IPhone and WP7 phones will fight the second place with IPhone.

So My prediction for the next 5 years are:

1. Android phones
2. IPhone and WP7 (near even)
3. RIM
4. others
Why Android apps do not sell? It has nothing to do with Android, but rather to the kind of consumer Android is targeted for.
In short, Android users seem to be more 'frugal' and take a lot for granted from technology companies.
Google sells well with thrifty consumers, because all of their consumer applications are either free (search, maps, etc) or sell with little markup compared to the competition (Google voice, for example, which by the way is a fine and cheap, good value product).
Perhaps Apple consumers are more adept at the notion that quality comes at a price. And quoting Steven Jobs: "Apple's market share is bigger than BMW's or Mercedes's or Porsche's in the automotive market. What's wrong with being BMW or Mercedes?".
Google seems content in being the Toyota of this industry. And there's nothing wrong with that. Toyota makes very good appliances.
@emiliosic
No if you look into Android apps, most of them are free BTW, they run ads into it, thats how the developers earn a dime. But who knows how many ads in those are genuine doesn't have malware embedded.
@emiliosic
There's also the "looks like" factor, that a good few kids will buy an Android because it looks just cool enough against their friend's iPhones, but they never use it for more than texting and some calls. It's a fashion statement rather than a tool, and you don't buy apps for glitzy bags.
Nokia wants their users to be able to install the internet onto their phones, which can only be done using Micr0$uck$ LoseDoze Fone7. Then they can browse the web and point and click and cut and paste do all of the things are so difficult if not IMPOSSIBLE to do with any other product. Since Micr0$uck$ invented the internet why would you want to use any other product for the internet?

And most certainly Nokia won't fail and get bought by Micr0$uck$ and give Mr. Elop a huge payday, that would NEVER happen.
Vote with your wallets if you're not going ahead with ousting the board and CEO... Short Nokia stock.
Pfft. I, and everyone else I know, want a phone that is clear, does not drop calls, has a long battery life, does not have the wobbles during a call, is easy to dial, is low cost, does not come with a "calling plan" from hell and has a minimum "feature set". The charger/data port should me mini or micro B. It should have some sort of SD slot. Many want a camera. Many want the ability to record voice memos. Many (including myself) want a music player. Simple, low cost. Limited "feature set". Anything beyond that is stress in a handheld. I prefer my desktop, with a real internet connection, real graphics on a 30 inch monitor, a real soundsystem with speakers larger than pencil erasers.

My Nokia 5130c is good enough, even though the music player is not the most capable, I can use my motorola HT820 wireless BY stereo headset and enjoy.

The rest can seek the handsets that do everything from julliene carrots to play games like angry birds and have a battery life 1/8th of my cheap ass little Nokia, if they want :P

Now, want to ask if i care about an OS on my phone?
WP7 is an excellent solution for our employee needs (not "wants"). Live tiles is an outstanding hands-off feature.
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Verizon's CTO's talk
timrfrench61 16th Feb 2011
I hope Verizon's CTO talk doesn't represent the company plan. I am a Verizon customer and will move to Phone7 (from Android) as soon as they come out with a product. I'm going to go look at switching...
HP try to get market share with new WebOS. Nokia have largest installed base Symbian phone but want to switch to WP7. Look different angles !
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Yeah everyone its time to leave Verizon
joeymaloney@... 16th Feb 2011
I am sick of the device limits on Verizon - it is time to leave.
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RE: Nokia shareholder 'revolt' against Microsoft WP7 deal ends after a day
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