(Not so) Crazy Microsoft Rumors: A new Zune HD?

(Not so) Crazy Microsoft Rumors: A new Zune HD?

Summary: I'm kicking off a new series on my site: (Not So) Crazy Microsoft Rumors. This week's rumor is all about whether Microsoft may bring to market one more Zune HD before it turns Zune into an audio/video service only.

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As part of my job as a full-time Microsoft watcher, I get a lot of tips about Microsoft from customers, competitors, partners and even some Softies themselves. However, ever since I worked for PCWeek as a reporter more than 15 years ago, I had it drilled into my head that until I could get three independent sources -- none of whom was repeating something s/he heard in an echo chamber -- to corroborate a tip, I couldn't run it as a story.

These days, I see lots of single-sourced tips being posted by bloggers and journalists. More than a few of these are based on a single, anonymous source, with no further identificationto help readers decide whether a tip is likely to be true or not. No "according to a Microsoft partner who requested anonymity." No "so says a small-business customer angry over the latest slip-up, who asked not to be identified." Not even a thinly veiled "according to a person who was not authorized to speak for Company X" (but did so anyway).

This lack of attribution gave me a maybe-not-so-crazy idea. A year or so ago, inspired by the "CrazyAppleRumors" folks, I bought the "CrazyMicrosoftRumors" domain name. I let it lapse. But I recently repurchased it. Why not put the concept (and maybe some day, the actual site) to use?

In the interim, I'm going to launch a series of occasional posts here on "All About Microsoft," where I'll take a single-sourced tip that I can't find two other independent sources to verify and run it as a "rumor." I'm not going to do this with just any old tip; I am going to pick and choose ones where I have faith in the tipster's batting average and/or believe the tip makes a lot of sense. I will clearly label these posts as "(Not so) Crazy Microsoft Rumors," so readers know exactly what they're getting.

If you want to send along any rumor candidates, just use the e-mail form at the bottom of my blog. All tips I receive are considered confidential, so don't worry about including your real name (if you want to do so).

Let's start things off with a rumor that just won't die -- and one that is fitting to run on the day Apple announced a revamped iPod Touch line, plus social/streaming music capabilities along the lines of what Microsoft already offers with ZunePass.

I keep hearing from a source of mine who has been a solid tipster on Microsoft-consumerish things in the past that Microsoft is still considering rolling out at least one more Zune HD media player. Let's call it, just for fun, the Zune HD2 (though maybe Zune HD7 (potentially stealing a good name away from HTC) is a more likely name, given the Softies' love of all things numbered 7 these days).Last I heard, iIt was supposed to be Microsoft's iPod Touch competitor.

Microsoft delivered the first Zune HD models in October 2009. At that time, company officials began (gently, but firmly) warning Microsoft customers that there might be only one more Zune coming, but that was it. After that, Microsoft was turning Zune into an audio/video subscription service that would be available on PCs and devices -- and maybe some day even Macs.

After Microsoft had its Windows Phone 7 reset, talk of a new ZuneHD2 tapered off. But lately, I've been hearing that, in spite of the Zune HD's not-so-stellar sales, plus Microsoft's failure to make the hardware available outside the U.S., the Softies may still have one more digital-media player coming. My rumormonger says it could be a calendar 2011 deliverable and possibly could sport an ARM processor of some kind. The Zune HD2 would incorporate a number of the UI changes from the Windows Phone 7 folks, the tipster claims -- which makes sense given the Windows Phone 7 UI borrowed so heavily from the Zune HD UI.

No word from my tipster on dimensions, price, will/won't there be cameras or any other details users might want to know about a potential new Zune HD. Also no word on how Microsoft might position such a device if it ever comes to market: Would it be more like a "Windows Phone 7 Lite"/iPod Touch? A gaming-focused handheld like the rumored Sony PSP Go successor? Or more like a mini slate/tablet (like one of those new Archos 28s running Froyo)?

As some Zune enthusiasts note, a firmware update for existing Zunes might make more sense than another new ZuneHD model.

What do you think? Will/should Microsoft deliver a Zune HD successor? Or is this nothing but a crazy Microsoft rumor?

Topics: Microsoft, Hardware, Mobility

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Mary Jo has covered the tech industry for 30 years for a variety of publications and Web sites, and is a frequent guest on radio, TV and podcasts, speaking about all things Microsoft-related. She is the author of Microsoft 2.0: How Microsoft plans to stay relevant in the post-Gates era (John Wiley & Sons, 2008).

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  • RE: (Not so) Crazy Microsoft Rumors: A new Zune HD?

    Test run for a zPad?
    daniel.e.mills@...
    • possibly a precursor

      Not a bad theory... ZPad, nice name! MJ
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      • RE: (Not so) Crazy Microsoft Rumors: A new Zune HD?

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      • RE: (Not so) Crazy Microsoft Rumors: A new Zune HD?

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    The Zune HD is a great piece of hardware, and it would truly be sad if Microsoft leaves the market. The only improvement I really hope Microsoft makes firmware-wise is to fix the occasional temporary freezing or volume/track control delays after not interacting with the device for a longish period of time.
    gotamd@...
  • Maybe

    I'm not so sure they should be creating another Zune HD device. Seems like it could be a dying market ( tho i could be wrong). But if they do bring another one to market, it needs to be a true media device with streaming to pc, xbox, etc.
    rjohn05
  • I hope not

    No new hardware please, but maybe firmware/ os upgrade? It would be nice to see Microsoft continue to support the HD even after WP7 is released.
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  • RE: (Not so) Crazy Microsoft Rumors: A new Zune HD?

    There definitely will be a firmware update to Zune HD this year, no doubt about it. As for hardware, I wouldn't hold my breath. Something tells me that if/when Windows Phone 7 becomes a success, Microsoft will use that as an excuse to give their Zune hardware the ax.
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  • RE: (Not so) Crazy Microsoft Rumors: A new Zune HD?

    I believe this rumor to be true. When I attended the MIX 2010 conference in Vegas earlier this year, I had a chance to sit down with Microsoft's Todd Brix and grill him about Windows Phone and I slipped in a question about whether the Zune would have a future as a hardware device since Windows Phone integrates most if not all of the functionality of the Zune HD and while I don't recall the exact quote (might have it in an old blog post, I will have to look), he said that the Zune as a hardware device still had a future and that Windows Phone won't replace the Zune hardware.
    pcnerd37
    • Maybe

      @pcnerd37

      Then they are going to continue to sell both devices. I think I am alone when I say this, but I rather enjoy having two devices, so that I am not draining the heck out of my cell phone battery each day.
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      • RE: (Not so) Crazy Microsoft Rumors: A new Zune HD?

        @NStalnecker

        You're not alone. I love my Zune HD. It was awesome to see all the Apple fanboy's coming over to play with it loving how clean, simple, light, fast and powerful it was. Hardware behind the device and battery are premium. This all happening a block away from Apple headquarters in Cupertino. I remember having to drive all over the place to get it as they were all sold out. I find it amazing that the sales were so weak as it was so hard to get my hands on as all the Fry's were sold out not over stocked. I would love to have a renewed Zune HD with Tegra 2 and nice CPU with the support of WP7 without calls.
        audidiablo
      • RE: (Not so) Crazy Microsoft Rumors: A new Zune HD?

        @NStalnecker

        You're not alone, I have a phone, and I have a music device (actually a Zune 120) because I like the idea of keeping the technologies separate.
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