Report: Microsoft readies new maximum specs for Windows 7 netbooks

By | May 22, 2009, 5:54am PDT

Microsoft is readying a set of maximum specs for Windows 7 netbooks –or, as Microsoft prefers to call them, “small notebooks” — that will likely dictate which PCs will qualify for lower per-copy Windows 7 pricing.

The alleged Windows 7 netbook specs were published earlier this month on the TechARP technology enthusiast site.

Microsoft established a similar set of specs for XP and Vista netbooks, a category the company had been referring to as ultra-low-cost PCs (ULPCs). The ones it is developing for Windows 7 are designed for netbooks that have smaller screens and single-core 2 GHz CPUs, TechARP said.

(Just to be clear: Microsoft’s Windows unit isn’t confirming any of the information that TechARP is providing and updating regularly about Microsoft’s alleged plans for Windows 7. But a lot of what the site is getting surely seems plausible — and if I were guessing — is coming directly from OEMs.)

A quick refresher as to what Microsoft has said to date about Windows 7 on netbooks:

* All Windows 7 SKUs will be able to run on netbooks. But the ones Microsoft expects most netbook makers to preload are Windows 7 Starter Edition and Windows 7 Home Premium.

* Starter Edition will limit users to running three concurrent applications. Windows 7 Starter Edition, unlike XP Starter Edition, will be for sale to users in both developing and developed nations.

* Microsoft has not shared publicly what it intends to charge PC makers per copy of Windows 7. But it is said to be charging them about $15 a copy for XP when they are preloading it on netbooks — a price significantly lower than it charges PC makers per copy of XP or Vista preloaded on full-fledged laptops and PCs.

When Microsoft unveiled its Windows 7 SKU line-up back in February, I asked how the company intended to determine pricing for Windows 7 running on netbooks vs. laptops/desktops. Would Microsoft charge PC makers less per copy for Home Premium than it charges to run the exact same Home Premium SKU on a full-fledged notebook or desktop system? Would Microsoft attempt to establish itself as the judge of what is a “netbook”?

Microsoft officials had nothing more to say about my questions. But the new maximum spec list — if it pans out — may indicate how the Softies are planning to address these thorny questions.

TechARP claims Microsoft is planning to focus its strategy around SKUs tailored for the netbook market. The site says that Microsoft will be offering netbook makers plain-old Windows 7 Starter; Windows 7 Starter for Small Notebook PC; and Windows 7 Home Basic For Small Notebook PCs (China only). (Microsoft officials said in February that Windows 7 Home Basic will be in developing nations only.)

For Windows 7, “Microsoft has made several critical changes to the maximum hardware specifications allowed for Windows 7 Start / Home Basic editions, as well as the Windows XP and Windows Vista Small Notebook PC program,” TechARP said. Among these changes are:

  • “(A) greatly simplified and universal CPU criterion designed for easy understanding and management
  • Removal of the graphics and touch limitations
  • Limiting screen size to a maximum of 10.2 inches (measured diagonally) as the defining boundary between a Small Notebook PC and a full-featured laptop”

Specifically, according to TechARP’s information, Microsoft’s maximum specs for machines it will consider to be netbooks/”small notebooks” will change in the following ways:

Screen size: With XP and Vista, maximum allowable screen size was 12.1 inches; with Windows 7, it will be 10.2 inches

Storage: Maximum limits for XP and Vista: 160 GB HDD or 32 GB SDD; with Windows 7, it will be 250 GB HDD or 64 GB SDD

Graphics: With XP and Vista, netbooks/small notebooks was “less than or equal to DX9; with Windows 7, there will be no limitation

CPUs: With XP and Vista, netbooks/small notebooks had to have “single core processors that do not exceed 1 GHz frequency, or Intel Atom (N270, N280, 230, Z500, Z510, Z515, Z520, Z530, Z540, Z550);  Intel Celeron 220; AMD (MV-40, 1050P, TF-20, Geode LX, Athlon 2650e, Sempron 210U); VIA (C7-M ULV, Nano U1700, U2250, U2300, U2400 or U2500). With Windows 7, the maximum will be “single core processors that do not exceed 2 GHz frequency, and have a CPU thermal design power that is less than or equal to 15 W, not including the graphics and chipset.”

Recent reports claim netbook demand is down — which is a mixed blessing for PC makers and Microsoft, given that netbooks have been the only bright spot in an otherwise declining PC market. Whether that trend will continue through the Windows 7 launch this year will be interesting to see. I know I’m still planning on making my first Windows 7 machine a netbook.

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Talkback Most Recent of 112 Talkback(s)

  • Windows 7 = crippled. Just use Linux
    Why buy an OS with all of these artificial restraints? This is what closed source gets you, a compromised product.
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    T1Oracle
    22nd May 2009
  • Windows 7 is not crippled
    Netbooks are perfectly capable of running higher versions of 7, just what I suspect most people will go for.

    Anyway, read this:
    http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2009/05/22/exclusive-microsoft-to-remove-3-app-limit-from-windows-7-starter.aspx
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    Cylon Centurion
    22nd May 2009
  • This really could be the beginning of the end for MS.
    The whole point about netbooks were their cheap price.

    If the copy of Windows 7 is going to be half the cost of the netbook rather than a a sixth just because the CPU is dual core or runs at 2.1Ghz then that isn't going to go down too well with the consumer.

    Might as well buy a notebook. But what if that's not what you want? And unless there is scope for changes in the future (you know, technology kind of improves with time), then mark my words in 1 year after release most netbooks will be back on Linux.

    Or Apple will have a field day with this news.

    Why buy a 2.1Ghz dual core Windows 7 netbook when you can get a iNetbook for $50 more? Intel won't be happy about this artificial CPU limit, they will strike a deal with Apple.

    Bad, bad move by MS. It isn't in the position to dictate to the market like it was. This really could be the beginning of the end for MS.

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    Bozzer
    23rd May 2009
  • No it won't...
    ...people will just pay more for W7HP. If you really think people are buying boutique products like netbooks based only on price then you're being horribly naive.

    No-one cares about Linux. That's been made abundantly clear by the consumers.

    As for Apple? Not their market as the profit margins are too small.
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    Sleeper Service
    23rd May 2009
  • Naive?
    You claim people will just pay more for W7HP. Just like that. Well that depends on just how much more they have to pay for their netbook just because it is 0.1Ghz over MS's limit doesn't it. And if it high enough, people may go elsewhere.

    As for me being naive about people buying things on price alone, are you being serious? Price is always a majore factor in ANY purchase. And I imagine it is THE very reason people are buying netbooks.


    2Ghz Netbook Win7 = $300

    2.1Ghz Netbook Win7 = $400

    So MS adds an extra $80 just because the CPU is over the 2Gz limit. Either you're an idiot or work for MS if you think people are going to pay the extra $100.



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    Bozzer
    25th May 2009
  • Apple
    Doesn't have a netbook.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Cylon Centurion
    24th May 2009
  • Neither does
    Microsoft. Nor do they have a win7 netbook.

    What's your point?
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Bozzer
    25th May 2009
  • I'll take that bet...
    and your mother's house you live in...
    ZDNet Gravatar
    fr0thy2.
    25th May 2009
  • Oh dear.
    My mother is dead dear boy. Has been for years.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Bozzer
    25th May 2009
  • Get ready for inflation that is what they are considering with these quotes
    Man you people are on here too... Here you go with the LIES... What are you even talking about did you even read the article??

    Hey earth to whoever you are did you not just hear that youre president is building our government and economy on borrowed money!!!

    Also by the time the majority of that money hits the economy he will have set in motion a mass inflation in the price of consumer goods!!! By this time nest year you will be lucky to get a computer for under 500 bucks on sale!!!

    Thes numbers take that all into account!!!

    Now I ask you if you have the courage or brainpower to answer me these few questions...

    Since when does a netbook have 2.16 Ghz dual core processor????

    What the hell is an iNetbook?

    If you are implying that you could get an Apple laptop with a small screen for only 50 bucks more than a netbook please tell me where????

    Keep in mind last time I cheked the smallest laptop Apple made was well over 1000 yes one thousand dollars!!! A Windows netbook over 500 is rare BTW!!!





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    electroman76
    25th May 2009
  • Win 7 is faster than most Linux distros!!
    I agree and wonder where these people get the ideas they have....

    Sometimes I wonder if they have even used Windows post 9.x !!!!!!

    Grantite Vista was problematic at first, but when you think of it with all the secutiy that was added it was windows actually becoming like Linus minus the passwords...

    Cancel or Allow...

    LOL

    In the current RC form Windows 7 is elegant, easy to use, secure and lightweight unlike Vista!!!

    Windows 7 is running fine on my 4 yr old bargain notebook that came equiped with a sempron 3300 with 128K of Cache and ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 graphics!!!!

    A modern netbook has 2x the horspower of this old Compaq !!!
    ZDNet Gravatar
    electroman76
    25th May 2009
  • Agree
    I have Debian lenny with KDE 4.2.2 running perfectly on my AAO.

    It's always amazed me that people would pay good money to be limited and otherwise abused. I guess ignorance has a considerable price here.
    ZDNet Gravatar
    Tim Patterson
    22nd May 2009
  • You don't know nuttin
    pffft. What does kidz know?
    ZDNet Gravatar
    no_zd_user_name
    24th May 2009
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    Bozzer
    25th May 2009
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    fr0thy2.
    25th May 2009

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