Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
Summary: Microsoft has signed yet another patent-protection deal with an Android phone/tablet maker. This time it's Samsung which is paying Microsoft an undisclosed amount for licensing undisclosed patents.
Microsoft announced on September 28 that it has signed a patent-licensing deal with Samsung Electronics via which Samsung will be paying Microsoft undisclosed royalty payments to license undisclosed Microsoft patents.
"Under the terms of the agreement, Microsoft will receive royalties for Samsung’s mobile phones and tablets running the Android mobile platform," according to Microsoft's press release.
The deal sounds like the seven patent-protection agreements Microsoft has signed in the last three months with Acer, General Dynamics Itronix, Onkyo, Velocity Micro, ViewSonic and Wistron -- all of which were targeted at these vendors' Android-based phones and tablets.
(The Samsung deal also adds an agreement to "cooperate in the development and marketing of Windows Phone," Microsoft officials said.)
In an accompanying blog post from Microsoft General Counsel Brad Smith and Deputy General Counsel Horracio Gutierrez, Microsoft used Samsung's agreement to take aim at Motorola Mobility, with whom Microsoft is currently involved in a legal struggle over claimed Android patent infringement.
From their just-published blog post:
"Together with the license agreement signed last year with HTC, today’s agreement with Samsung means that the top two Android handset manufacturers in the United States have now acquired licenses to Microsoft’s patent portfolio. These two companies together accounted for more than half of all Android phones sold in the U.S. over the past year. That leaves Motorola Mobility, with which Microsoft is currently in litigation, as the only major Android smartphone manufacturer in the U.S. without a license."
(It's worth noting that Motorola isn't the only company using Android that hasn't agreed to pay Microsoft for patent protection. Barnes & Noble also is still refusing to sign a similar patent agreement that would cover its Android-based Nook reader, not smartphones.)
Smith and Gutierrez also poked at Google, which has complained about Microsoft's intellectual-property-licensing tactics, in their blog post:
"We recognize that some businesses and commentators – Google chief among them – have complained about the potential impact of patents on Android and software innovation. To them, we say this: look at today’s announcement. If industry leaders such as Samsung and HTC can enter into these agreements, doesn’t this provide a clear path forward?"
The blog post also claims that "some mobile carriers" are the ones driving these kinds of patent-licensing deals "to address the patent issues that are important to the mobile marketplace."
Smith and Gutierrez also noted that Microsoft is "committed to entering into similar agreements with other handset manufacturers."
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RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
Well, patents are bad
Windows discounts
Now, if that deal should include any fee which could be considered a discount on Windows licenses, then that is EXACTLY the action that caused an anti-trust case against them, and it's EXACTLY what they have a history of doing.
WP7 licenses aren't worth much, MS couldn't balance the deal by discounting the WP7 license because Sammy doesn't sell enough of them.
Microsoft patents are so junk in this area it won't even reveal them without an NDA (see claim against B&N), which means MS thinks you cannot independently determine if MS patents infringes your product just by reading the patent. A sure sign of junk patents and a weak claim.
The only other major interaction between the two is Windows, and if Sammy gets a discount on those licenses in that secret deal, then that's an anti-trust violation.
Repeat after me - OFFENSIVE patents are bad ...
RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
MS is using this as a "tool" to promote the POS known as Windows Phone. It's funny how there are no leaks as to what patents are violated. Almost makes you wonder what MS is afraid of.
I can't wait until the coverage of Motorola's and Barnes and Noble's suit comes here. Should be very interesting.
RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
If HTC and Samsung didn't have a leg to stand on, then I would say things don't look great for Motorola. Google may have bought themselves into a lawsuit greater than Oracle.
RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
They're afraid that other companies will use their intellectual property for profit without compensating them for it.
RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
I don't think they are afraid of anything at the moment. Just collecting their dues.
RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
As for Motorola, they are going to lose their suit against Microsoft. They've already been dealt a couple of blows in that case.
RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
Have you ever used a WP7 device? Probably not you must still be using the POS known as Android or IOS.
RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
These companies have some of the greatest lawyers on the planet...they wouldn't sign the agreement unless MS had them by the balls.
RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
PS. For android, any advertisement from Microsoft for free, is money they don't have to spend on adverts.
RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
So a company develops some sort of technology and protects it from being ripped/used freely by patenting it and requesting license fees and they are automatically a patent troll?
I don't care much for Microsoft, but if these companies are indeed using a technology that Microsoft developed, then they (MS) are entitled to something in return.
Gotta love the alternate universe some people are living in thinking that everything should just be free for anyone to use.
RE: Samsung signs Microsoft patent licensing deal to cover Android devices
There is a difference. MS actually makes stuff. Patent trolls have no product. They just sue.
And Google is the IP thief that destroys value of content
If you think of MS as a patent troll. You either don't know what a patent troll is, or you simply can't face reality.