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Some possibly not-so-good news for business users with Windows 8

By | March 1, 2012, 3:41pm PST

Summary: On the plus side, business users might be able to boot straight to the Desktop in Windows 8. On the minus side, the inability for WOA tablets to join AD domains seems likely.

This just in from Group Policy Most Valuable Professional Alan Burchill: It looks like there could be a way for business users to circumvent the Windows 8 Metro start menu after all.

Burchill found this while sifting through the Consumer Preview bits:

“The ‘Do not show the Start Menu when the user logs in’ policy allows you to boot the OS into the more familiar desktop and not the Metro start menu. Interesting to note that booting into the desktop is also the default behaviour for Windows Server 8 so you can also use this setting on your server if you want to start them into Metro (but you prob don’t want to).”

Update: This might not be as promising as Burchill originally thought. He has amended his post to note that this setting may be a server-only thing.

While many love the tiled Metro start screen and are looking forward to using it on touch tablets and PCs, many others aren’t keen on it — especially business users who are convinced that Metro will be nothing but a nuisance, especially on non-touch-enabled hardware, and that they’ll do most of their work in the Desktop app on Windows 8.

Paul Thurrott of Windows SuperSite told me a while back that he believed Microsoft would allow users to get around Metro using a group-policy setting, but when I ran that past my contacts at Microsoft, I was told this would likely not be the case. So in the end, it looks like So who knows at this point whether business users who don’t want Metro may get their wish, after all.

Microsoft may share more on this topic at CeBIT in Germany, which runs March 6 to 10. At the February 29 Consumer Preview launch, Windows officials said Microsoft would talk more about Windows 8 in the enterprise at  CeBIT next week.

Update No. 2: Microsoft officials confirmed COO Kevin Turner will share more enterprise-focused Windows 8 information on March 6 during his keynote at CeBIT. No specifics yet as to what will be on the agenda.

The other big looming question that many business users want more information about is what they will and won’t be able to do when it comes to managing their Windows 8 on ARM (WOA) tablets and PCs.

Microsoft posted a document for download on February 29 (not sure if intentionally or not) that outlined Consumer Preview features for business users. In that document, Microsoft corroborated word that WOA tablets won’t be able to join an Active Directory domain. Some sites have reported that the document also said that Microsoft wouldn’t allow WOA tablets to be managed at all using Microsoft’s own management tools.

The sentence in question from the Business Consumer Preview guide:

““Although the ARM-based version of Windows does not include the same manageability features that are in 32-bit and 64-bit versions, businesses can use these power-saving devices in unmanaged environments.”

From what I can tell — given the Softies are declining to comment publicly on this — it sounds like the domain prohibition is accurate, but the inability to be remotely managed via System Center may not necessarily be.

Charles Fitzgerald, a former Microsoft exec now working at VMWare, noted that the domain join limitation means Microsoft won’t be able to one-up the iPad on this front. (And lack of manageability was one of the themes that Microsoft has advised its salesforce to use in selling agains the iPad in businesses.) From Fitzgerald’s March 1 post:

Lack of domain join “means Windows 8 ARM tablets are going to be consumer devices that don’t integrate with the Microsoft enterprise infrastructure any better than the iPad, so Microsoft loses what should have been a major selling point. You will have to sacrifice battery life and go with x86 to get enterprise features and manageability. This is a big blow to Microsoft’s tablet proposition for the enterprise and WOA may be DOA as a result.

I’ll be interested to hear Microsoft’s explanation as to why domain join is out for WOA tablets if and when they share it….

Update No. 3: Since last night when I posted this, a number of my chums on Twitter have wondered whether the reason Microsoft might be cutting domain join for WOA has to do with licensing. The thinking is Microsoft may want to try to charge users who need domain join more or to require them to move to a higher end SKU. I have no idea if this is the case. I’ve also seen others note that WOA tablets still will likely be managed via Exchange Active Sync (EAS) — which is basically what the case is with iPads, I believe.

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Tridus 2nd Mar
Microsoft's rapidly not becoming in the only game in town as the importence of desktop PCs decreases. If business rejects Windows 8 (and I fully expect they will because NOBODY wants Metro crammed down their throats in the business world), by time Microsoft can react with a new release people will have started to transition away from PCs entirely.

They really can't afford a major failure now, and if they try to force Metro on people that's exactly what they're going to get.

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Windows 8 will be a disaster
sameer_singh17 16th Apr
There are just way too many variations. x86 vs. ARM, legacy vs. Metro. The consumer confusion this will create will be unparalleled.

In a year, we'll be talking about the failure of Microsoft's marketing strategy.

http://www.tech-thoughts.net/
The minority of business users that have employers that want to buy them tablets should get x64 tablets. The myth that x64 tablets will have lower battery life should be ignored.
I'm sure a Intel based Win 8 slate can be made to function for 10 hours or more between charges. The question is, will those slates require user replaceable batteries (a nuisance) or more battery volume which, of course, means a heavier tablet weight.
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A myth?
ScorpioBlack 2nd Mar
The myth that x64 tablets will have lower battery life should be ignored.

Prove it.
Their 3D gate design will have a significant impact on battery life. Add to that an OS architecture that is simpler and you have something that will genuinely compete with ARM. Next is 14 nm, and you know what that will do.

Intel is not just going to go quietly into the night.

Remember, Win phone 8 Apollo will be coming along and will be a dead up match for WOA (iMHO).

All of this said, I am not convinced that MSFT will be able to hold the stance of no WOA on AD. I think it will cause major IT ***** fits (as my daughter would say).
...but I still like to see some real world tests and those haven't happened yet for Win8 tablets. Especially with resource-hogs like Flash running in the background.

You know the old saying; If it's too good to be true, it probably is.
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Myths should always be ignored.
Tea.Rollins 6th Mar
Wait for facts
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Should read:
rahbm 3rd Mar
The myth that Johnny Vegas is not a Microsoft troll should be ignored.
...Windows Phone blown up to a tablet, sort of like iOS and the iPad. I always suspected as much.

Cest la vie, it is what it is. There's always regular Windows on PCs/laptops for power users, I guess.
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So why deploy?
mike2k 1st Mar
If businesses set a policy to login direct to desktop, then why bother spending time/money to deploy win8 in the first place? It's just a UI that sits on top of win7 and comes with headaches of learning how to use it.
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Exactly
SamWilkinson 1st Mar
There is no reason to move from Windows 7 if they have it already..this is just Windows 7 with a shiny wrapper.
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Untrue
hafenbrack 2nd Mar
They have done quite a bit of under the hood tweaking. Even when working in the Desktop environment you will likely get better battery life, have the advantage of Storage Spaces, etc. There are reasons to use Windows 8, despite your apparent dislike for it.
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Untrue?
mike2k 2nd Mar
@hafenbrack
What tweaking?
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Untrue?
ScorpioBlack 2nd Mar
@hafenbrack
That remains to be seen
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It's not Win7
PolymorphicNinja 2nd Mar
To be fair, every release of windows gets tweaked.

But the tweaks are major in this case. Just because it looks like Windows 7 doesn't mean it is. The difference between Win7 and Win 8 from an internal software architecture stand point is huge.

It retires Win32/64 in favor of WinRT (their new base-level APIs designed and optimized to run on modern PC with different CPUs in mind)

Win32 was released in 1995 with Windows 95. Windows 7 is running on this fundamental core technology. Do the math on how long Windows has been running on internal software designed for PCs that were introduced nearly 20 years ago. Hardware and how we get our data has changed a lot since. The core OS software supporting it until now, hasn't changed very much at all aside from the occasional patch and band-aid to enable access to the changes...

This is probably both an exciting and scary prospect at Microsoft. It's very high risk both in terms of customer acceptance as well as the nuances and bugs associated with the start of software's life cycle.

There's a reason why they're releasing consumer/developer previews. It's cheap, effective beta testing.
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Tweaking...or minor overhaul.
gomigomijunk 2nd Mar
If you really want to know all the changes, I suggest you read the Building Windows 8 blog. There are tons of enhancements to "core" windows. Support for USB 3.0, better file transfers, storage spaces, reduced cpu and memory requirements, improved connectivity and speed for wi-fi, better accessibility, windows to-go on usb, picture password, better battery life/power management, better multi-monitor support, hyper-V virtualization, and a ton of other things...go and read about it. It is very good.
This is what I've been saying also. Companies don't move to a new OS version just because it's there. If there is no business justification to move up, it won't happen.
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Tea.Rollins Updated - 6th Mar
Per my own testing, Windows 8 stomps all over windows 7 in terms of performance. The only thing I take exception with is how it performs restarts, but I can get used to shutdown -> boot easily enough if it does so in less than 8 seconds, like it does on my sager p150hn. That's including POST mind you.
To be honest, I understand how you may feel, but I think features like Refresh, and Reset, private cloud, no difference between a tablet, laptop, and desktop from our standpoint, and a private SharePoint App store may be enough reasons to adopt the OS on an Enterprise scale. I can't tell you how much time would be saved if we could just Refresh a PC instead of reloading it from a base image and remotely deploying the necessary apps. It alone will make our lives easier and save us from ID:10T/K2C errors. We'll have to wait to see the final set of services and features that will be in the GA version, but Refresh alone will save us from constantly swapping PCs or reloading them.
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Win8 changes that don't have the word METRO
frankwick Updated - 5th Mar
The list of new features is large, but most of these are not part of the UI:
- Baked in USB3
- Storage Spaces feature
- New File System (although that's probably server only at this point)
- MUCH MUCH Improved file transfer modal
- MUCH MUCH Improved file collision rules
- Improved Bit Locker and AppLocker (HUGE deal in Enterprises)
- The usual tweaks for performance and security
- Possible a new media experience (dumping WMP and Zune in favor of a single player)

If Win7 to Win8 sees half the imrovement in performance and stability as we saw from Vista to Win7, then the upgrade should be considered.
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Should be a easy to find setting exposed for all users. If Sinofsky et al are so certain we'd choose Metro for most uses, give us the choice and let the chips fall where they may. But they won't because it might reduce the sale of WinRT apps in the Windows Store if Metro were not forced on users.
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Good point
ScorpioBlack 2nd Mar
But they won't because it might reduce the sale of WinRT apps in the Windows Store if Metro were not forced on users.

Sounds like a greed/control thing.
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I think you have hit on it
donw1234 2nd Mar
Microsoft probably looks at the Apple iPhone and iPad markets and thinks:

'They sell a computer and everyone has to come to them to get software and they get 30% of those sales, what a deal!'

They also think:

'We don't sell the computer, we sell Windows to the computer vendors at a discount, and then the end user can buy software from anyone. How is this fair to Microsoft?'

Their last thought:

'Lets make a version of Windows with a screwy user interface that everyone hates and then let's try to follow Apple's marketing plan.'
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You got it
ScorpioBlack 2nd Mar
@donw1234 only I doubt MS can answer those questions properly.
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Commitment is scary!
scH4MMER 2nd Mar
This just shows that Microsoft is willing to sink or swim with Metro. Why should they bother trying to evolve if they won't stand up to they fear-of-change crowd. Of course, sinking is half of the potential outcomes in that commitment, so they better have done their homework!
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Disappointing...
GoodThings2Life 1st Mar
I installed Windows 8 on my personal laptop (Dell Vostro V131) last night, and I had to roll back to Windows 7 today. Several of my apps kept crashing, and I couldn't get several of the Windows 8 metro apps to connect to my Microsoft ID. I upgraded from a heavily used Windows 7 setup though, so I'm going to retry with a clean install over the weekend.

Aside from the technical issues, I like the direction they're heading in with Metro, but I couldn't shake this impression all morning that it was a half-baked experience (so far). One of the things I love about my Windows Phone is Metro, and that the experience is so immersive. I feel that immersion is missing from Windows 8. For example, the People Hub is horrible on W8 compared to WP. When I'm in the Desktop environment, I find the corner mouse triggers annoying, and everything I loved about Windows 7's beautiful UI is gone replaced by flat, colorless boxes. I wish the desktop environment had been left entirely as-is with Windows 7, and I wish the Metro aspects were more "windowed" the way the existing Zune app is today... and then use Windows 9 to go more immersive.

Hearing that Windows 8 WOA won't be domain-enabled, that's a huge downside for me as an IT administrator. I fear that OEM's are going to focus on WOA for those tablet-enabled devices, and I think Microsoft might really miss the mark with Windows 8 which really bothers me. I really want Microsoft to succeed here, because I'm a long-time Microsoft supporter, and I HATE the alternatives.

I guess we'll see what happens from now until release... and hopefully once I get a clean install, I'll be able to give Windows 8 a fair chance.
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Re-install
Cylon Centurion 1st Mar
You should try the re-install. It's been smooth sailing for me aside from a slight incompatibility with Wireshark's WinPCap driver.
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no problem for WOI
mswift@... 2nd Mar
Guess what, Intel is jumping up and down celebrating. The next round of iNTEL chips will be close to ARM power usage. Whether ARM can keep up going into the 14mu level is the horse race. TI vs iNTEL, round 2.
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smooth install fo rme too
frankwick Updated - 5th Mar
I have had a very reliable experience on my HP 2760p. Obvisouly I have to rely on the out of box drivers since the HP drivers don't work. As a result, the screen is stuck in portrait mode. The touch stuff works great though.

Note this is not an endoresement for booting to MEtro and removing the start menu. If this OS stands a chance in my 7000 seat corp environment, then I need to be able to boot to the desktop and give my users their Win7 style start menu.
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That's horrible
wmac1 1st Mar
"WOA tablets won???t be able to join an Active Directory domain."!!!!

That's horrible! They have axed the most important ever enterprise feature. Users may still be authenticated using Active directory but that would not be enough.

I really don't know what to say.
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WoA is a consumer oriented device
LiquidLearner 1st Mar
Windows 8 on x86-64 in Pro/Ent/Ultimate versions will likely be what enterprises are attracted to. New WinRT apps + full legacy support, encryption, domain join, etc. Yes they'll be more expensive but that's usually what happens with enterprise devices.
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Still I was hoping Microsoft would be the one to close the gap between a consumer oriented tablet in enterprise. I am curious to what types of management abilities they will have using something like System Center or some other management software. These consumer tablets are a pain to manage in a multiple user environment.
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Or are you spinning on something?
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Please Microsoft!
fbarias89 1st Mar
I hate Metro, I would love it if I had a touch screen but I don't, so please Microsoft, let the boot straight into Desktop Mode option be!

The truth is... I will be with Windows 7 for the coming years.
The change in UI is uncomfortable for some but moving users in a better direction. The overall experience of Metro with Metro APPS IS a better UI experience. The problem most of you are complaining about is the use of Non-Metro apps in Windows 8...and I agree MSFT should have thought how to make that experience better. Touch is not needed though does provide a better experience. Yes...I agree there is a learning curve to use METRO without touch, but considering all you need to do is upgrade your mouse to a MSFT or Logitech Touch mouse and you can enjoy METRO in almost 95%+ of the typical UI. Plus the features in the Consumer Preview (AKA Beta) are not final...there are over 100,000 changes from the Developer Preview to the Consumer Preview. There will likely be at least 25% or more changes in the RTM build from the Consumer Preview.
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I agree.
gomigomijunk Updated - 2nd Mar
Windows 8 is a great transitional OS. It bridges the gap between productivity and fun very well. I'm amazed at the number of people that don't adapt to change very well and aren't technical enough to learn a simple user interface.

Win 8 works great with keyboard and mouse, so I don't understand all the fuss...plus, I'm not sure why people insist on shoving all their programs in to the lower 1/8th of the screen and think that is a better experience requiring great dexterity to navigate shifting fly-out menus...seriously?

I think the metro "Dashboard" isn't perfect, but is a good first step in a new direction in computing. I like to call it a dashboard rather than start menu. It isn't a menu, it is a HUD information panel. Arrange it in a way that works for you and you'll be fine. Embrace the change and you'll live longer and be happier.

I have the same feeling about the various new ubuntu interfaces. I like that they are challenging the status quo that is now 30+ years old.
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what about WinPhone
mswift@... 2nd Mar
One thing that popped for me was the question of whether you can use a Win 7 phone as the touch /digitizer tablet for your Win 8 non touch desktop.
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Vista all over again
Shederman 1st Mar
So, there's zero reason for me to choose a WOA tablet, and zero reason for me to choose a Windows 8 Desktop.

Prediction: Windows 8 will fail, and fail hard.

MS are once again riding roughshod over their customers. What's the bloody point of previews if you ignore the feedback you get?
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Re: Vista all over again
calwell 1st Mar
Shederman,

One thing I would point out is that you'll have no choice but to have a Windows 8 Metro PC at some time in the future. This won't happen for a while, but it will happen just as it has always happened.

The question of Windows 8 being a failure is unknown.. but certainly possible... I think more likely is someone finds a hack to bring back the start menu/desktop on Windows 8 permanently and this activity becomes so viral that MS can't ignore it.

Like it or not, Metro looks like a big risk for a company that needs to be taking risks.

Kevin
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Tridus 2nd Mar Top Rated
Microsoft's rapidly not becoming in the only game in town as the importence of desktop PCs decreases. If business rejects Windows 8 (and I fully expect they will because NOBODY wants Metro crammed down their throats in the business world), by time Microsoft can react with a new release people will have started to transition away from PCs entirely.

They really can't afford a major failure now, and if they try to force Metro on people that's exactly what they're going to get.
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Windows is not required.
itguy10 2nd Mar Below threshold | Show anyway
"One thing I would point out is that you'll have no choice but to have a Windows 8 Metro PC at some time in the future."

I doubt Apple is going away any time soon and they also make an awesome line of PC's (Personal Computers) called Macs.

I have not used Windows at home since 2002 and have not missed it in the least.

And if you have not heard, Apple's slice of the PC market is growing quite a bit - they are selling more than they ever have,

So, no you don't have to have a Windows 8 Metro PC in the future. Heck, you don't have to have a Windows PC at all.
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no choice?
danbi 2nd Mar
I myself have never depended on anything Microsoft for my computing environment. Won't miss them if they disappear overnight, so don't care a bit if Windows 8 will be useful or not.

The same applies for everybody. Faced with the choice, users will make it. So, they will either learn to love Windows 8, or will just ignore it and switch to something else.
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Nope.
The Danger is Microsoft 2nd Mar
I use Apple. Microsoft will never make a dime off me again. So, yes, I do have a choice. I don't have to have Windows or Microsoft anything. Time for you to wake up.
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agree with you
shellcodes_coder 2nd Mar
agree with you
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What sacrifice?
nimatra Updated - 1st Mar
"You will have to sacrifice battery life and go with x86 to get enterprise features and manageability."
On what basis does he claim that? Enterprise users would not dump x86 Windows anyway. The ultrabooks battery last 7+ hours now, I'm sure that x86 tablets have better battery life.
To me it's more like doing intel a favour rather than inability to do it with ARM.
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Battery life....
gomigomijunk 2nd Mar
It amazes me how important people make battery life out to be....I think it is important, but seriously, we live in an era where electricity is pretty accessible, at least where I live...where do you people live that you don't have access to electricity?
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It's troubling..
calwell 1st Mar
.. to say the least that Microsoft wouldn't allow for some sort of transition from the desktop to Metro.. just by allowing businesses to decide when to deploy it.. I think that will eventually happen with the final release of 8.

I can also see the WOA strategy used by Microsoft pushing customers to purchase private cloud management tools (if needed).. or being able to deploy a full suite of cloud enabled services for these devices.. Another subscription revenue base for Microsoft.

As far as the Metro interface itself.. I do think it's a real shift.. but I wonder if this shift is really forward? I decided to ponder this thought in a recent blog:

http://blog.cwl.cc/2012/03/windows-8-metro-leap-forward-or-leap.html

Were definitely headed for some big challenges.
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Stop telling lies!
adholt 2nd Mar Below threshold | Show anyway
WOA is not out yet and already you are printing lies based on 3rd party advice. Why don't you just ask Microsoft? Also please stop behaving as though you are intelligent because you are not. Active Directory issues could be sorted by an app sold in the app store for enterprise users or available as an addon if its not present in the retail versions of WOA. I have yet to use the WOA version of Windows 8 but I love the CP that is available now even though its not a RC or finished product. Stop your hating this site its skewing your ability to reason thus masking your true lack of intelligence.
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Translation
johnfenjackson@... Updated - 2nd Mar
I am not a psychologist but Mary Jo's bias shows clearly in her choice of words:
- 'possibly not-so-good' = potentially very bad
- 'aren't keen on it [METRO UI]' = hate
You can read the same in M$'$ BS statements:
"Although the ARM-based version of Windows does not include the same manageability features that are in 32-bit and 64-bit versions, businesses can use these power-saving devices in unmanaged environments.
... which translated means "although M$ have introduced a product limitation against the customers wishes: you can still use said product if you want to" ...
... a limitation phrased to read like a concession. Gee, thanks.

Here is the full translation:

LOOKS LIKE BAD NEWS FOR BUSINESS WINDOWS 8 USER MANAGEMENT
Microsoft have introduced two product limitations for Windows 8 devices:

1. The group policy setting to launch the Desktop rather than the Start screen, already implemented on the server product, has been disabled elsewhere.

2. Windows on ARM devices will not be able to use Active Directory Services.

M$ are unwilling to comment on their reasons for going against their customers' requirements, or offering a choice, in these two matters.
Indeed it is surprising that the company should elect not to exploit the manageability aspect, one of the few advantages it has over the iPad, when BYOD is all the rage. Lack of an explanation on these fronts suggests a dark motive, not fit for public consumption ... or more of the same misguided thinking which resulted in UAC and the 'CAPABLE' fiasco for VISTA.
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The reason I am hedging
Mary Jo Foley 2nd Mar
Hi. The reason I am hedging here is because we don't have all the info yet. Microsoft's disclosure policy with Win8 is not to comment -- even on things that they've already announced or appear in their own documents. If they'd just explain definitively, I'd write something definitive.

I did try asking MS about WOA not joining domains. I got a no comment. As I noted in the article, I've also been led to believe you won't have a GP setting to go straight to Desktop, but no one (as far as I know) has said this officially.

I am not trying to defend MS here. I think they have a steep road ahead convincing biz users that they should go with Win 8. But maybe they don't really care about the business users with this release -- similar to the situation with Windows Phone 7.x. Supposedly Win Phone 8 gets features biz users want and need. Maybe MS' strategy is to make Win 9 more palatable to biz users and just go after "consumers" with Win 8.

Thanks. MJ
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Long live Win7
hopp64 2nd Mar
After installing Win8 on an old touch enabled Gateway laptop and playing with it, I can't see any compelling reason to move off of Win7 at work.

All of my users have 24" or dual 24" monitors for working on things like spreadsheets or multiple applications at once USING a KEYBOARD and MOUSE. I just don't see this with Metro. I like Win Phone and Zune, but Metro is not user friendly for people trying to do Enterprise IT work.

Win8 will just force Enterprise to make Win7 the new XP. A lack of proper Group Policy support for turning off things like the Start screen would definitely kill it for our department and my recommendation will be to stay on Win7 for a long time.
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Windows 8 will be a disaster
sameer_singh17 16th Apr
There are just way too many variations. x86 vs. ARM, legacy vs. Metro. The consumer confusion this will create will be unparalleled.

In a year, we'll be talking about the failure of Microsoft's marketing strategy.

http://www.tech-thoughts.net/

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