Visual Studio 2008 to RTM in November

Visual Studio 2008 to RTM in November

Summary: A few months ago, Microsoft was hedging as to whether it would deliver the final "Orcas" Visual Studio 2008 code in 2007 or 2008. But as of November 5, it's official: VS 2008 and the accompanying .Net Framework 3.5 are going to be released to manufacturing in November 2007.


A few months ago, Microsoft was hedging as to whether it would deliver the final "Orcas" Visual Studio 2008 code in 2007 or 2008. But as of November 5, it's official: VS 2008 is going to be released to manufacturing later in November 2007.

Visual Studio 2008 to RTM in NovemberThe official "launch" of Visual Studio 2008 remains set for February 27, 2008. But the VS 2008 and .Net Framework 3.5 bits will be signed, sealed and delivered sooner than that.

The RTM date for Visual Studio 2008 was one of several announcements Microsoft made at its TechEd Developers 2007 conference in Barcelona this week. Also unveiled at TechEd Developers on November 5:

  • The first Microsoft Sync Framework Community Technology Preview is now available for download. I'm still not quite sure how/when this technology (formerly code-named Harmonica and then Ibiza) will ship in final form. Microsoft is saying that it will "build on" the sync functionality available in Visual Studio 2008, but not that it will ship with/in VS 2008. More specifics to come.
  • Popfly Explorer, a tool that integrates Microsoft's Popfly mash-up builder with VS 2008 and Visual Web Developer Express 2008, is now available to developers. PopFly Explorer "provides users an easy way to add Silverlight gadgets built in Popfly to their Web pages, as well as publish HTML web pages directly to Popfly," according to the Softies.
  • Premier-level Visual Studio Industry Partners now have the option to view some Visual Studio IDE source code under a Shared Source license. Microsoft is billing the Shared Source IDE availability as a way to help developers debug their code and more easily integrate their products with VS 2008.
  • New VS 2008 licensing terms that will no longer limit development partners who are building solutions on top of Visual Studio to agree to make them available for Windows and other Microsoft platforms. Again -- more details to come on this one. Microsoft says it is changing the terms to "better support interoperability with other developer tools and cross-platform scenarios."

That's all I know so far. More details to come once I have a chance to chat with the folks in Barcelona....

Topics: Microsoft, Software Development


Mary Jo has covered the tech industry for 30 years for a variety of publications and Web sites, and is a frequent guest on radio, TV and podcasts, speaking about all things Microsoft-related. She is the author of Microsoft 2.0: How Microsoft plans to stay relevant in the post-Gates era (John Wiley & Sons, 2008).

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  • We've been using Visual Studio 2008 Beta

    We've been using Visual Studio 2008 Beta for a while now. The app we are building uses WCF/WPF and we are targeting .Net 3.0 (not .Net 3.5)

    We were very happy that we can target specific runtimes with this version of Visual Studio. There is always a bit of resistant from some customers to installing a brand new .Net runtime, so we have decide not to target 3.5 just yet. We'll miss out on using Linq-To-Sql for now, but all the C# language enhancements (including Linq on collections) are available to use on .Net 3 (and 2).

    VS2008 is definately a step up from 2005 (which was already very good). The WPF editor is very welcome - I didn't really like swapping backwards and forwards to Epression Blend (which is anyway quite buggy).

    You can say what you like about alot of Microsoft, but the .Net team is turning out some quality stuff right now [i]and[/i] making good decisions, like releasing the framework source code.
    • LINQ will work with the .NET 2.0 Framework

      Actually, you don't need .NET 3.5 for the deployment of LINQ applications, just the development. LINQ works fine deployed to a machine with only .NET 2.0.
  • Lol, that's exactly what I said.

  • vs 2008 is irrelevant

    why use some proprietary IDE when there are better free environments?
    releasing source code won't help it eighter!...not to mention lack of Linux support!
    Linux Geek
    • Name the better free environment

      I don't think you can.
    • Hmm now lets see.

      Lets forget the fact that Visual Studio is in fact probably the best IDE on Windows, and that .Net is a world class development platform.

      I'm a commercial software developer. More than 9 out of 10 of my prospective customers use Windows. Maybe 1 in 100 uses Linux. In reality, I've never been asked of a Linux version of the app. If I was going to port it anywhere, it would be to Mac.

      I think perhaps you need to check on the definition of "relevant" in your dictionary
    • Not so fast

      Let's do some math:

      Dell Optiplex System with Windows XP Pro and Office 2007 Pro

      Visual Studio 2008 Professional from

      Visual Basic Beginners book from

      Visual Basic for Databases book from

      Visual Basic for Professionals book from

      SQL Server 2005/2008 Express Edition

      So, for a mere $1,835.00 and about a year's worth of my time, I have all the tools I need to develop serious applications that run on over 90% of the worlds computers with no muss, no fuss, and no greasy after-taste. And I don't have to spend any time searching Google and hanging out on news groups being called a n00b or yelled at because I asked how to install some plug-in to some free IDE that only does half of what I need it to do.

      When it comes to development, Microsoft knows what it's doing. Which is why after almost 11 years of being told "THIS IS THE YEAR OF LINUX ON THE DESKTOP" and "THE EVIL EMPIRE WILL FALL" you linux people are still



      • Definitely... and even cheaper than that!

        Well, skip the computer - you'll need one no matter which platform you want to use.. and actually - for a lot of developers, VS2008 Express all around will do well enough - and it's free. Also, Microsoft gives out a lot of free copies of VS2005 Standard, which is good enough for anyone other than WinMo developers or really high end enterprise developers.

        But your point is well taken. I've used several of these other IDEs including MacOS' XCode and so far, Visual Studio is the best of the lot. XCode comes in a fairly good second - then things like Eclipse trail off mostly because of poor tool integration.
        • Even Better ...

          Have your employer buy you an MSDN subscription ... 'nuff said.
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