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Will Google's Chrome OS look rusty by late 2010?

By | July 8, 2009, 6:39am PDT

Summary: After reading the very few Chrome OS details that Google smartly dropped a couple of weeks before Microsoft is expected to announce the release to manufacturing of Windows 7, I’ve got a few doubts…. And quite a few more than the huge number of Google fanboys and girls who seem to forget for all its product debuts, Google hasn’t had any home runs other than search.

After years of repeated denials, Google has finally acknowledged that it is, indeed, building an operating system for PCs.

I think it’s good for customers, PC makers, software makers and even for Microsoft that Google is getting into the operating-system game. After more than two decades, Microsoft has only one real competitor in the desktop OS space: Apple. That’s not enough. Competition is good. It keeps prices down and true innovation up.

However,  after reading the very few Chrome OS details that Google smartly dropped a couple of weeks before Microsoft is expected to announce the release to manufacturing of Windows 7, I’ve got a few doubts…. And quite a few more than the huge number of Google fanboys and girls who seem to forget for all its product debuts, Google hasn’t had any home runs other than search.

Google will undoubtedly fill in a lot of the holes that it left open with today’s announcement. But here are a few that already have me wondering:

1. Google Chrome OS is shipping in the second half of 2010? And people criticize Microsoft for  preannouning vaporware by years? Late 2010 is eons from now in the computing world. (It’s even later than Windows Mobile 7, which is expected to start showing up on phones in the first half of 2010.) To those saying that Chrome OS will drop at the same time as Windows 7, your calendars need adjusting. Windows 7 goes on sale October 22, 2009.

2. Google is going to let people modify and change the OS source code? As Apple has shown quite well, when one vendor controls the end-to-end process, both the computer hardware and software, and doesn’t let anyone else touch it, a PC has more cohesiveness and less crapware. Microsoft has shown that OEMs can be allowed to customize their PCs without tinkering with — and introducing more support headaches, bugs and glitches into — the OS. How many different Chrome OSes will there be? Who will be entity users call when they have OS problems?

3. What happened to Google’s positioning that no one was going to want software running on PCs in our brave new world? People just needed devices and browsers and Google Docs and Apps. PCs were dated and clunky and only for people who wanted to run old-school apps locally. Weren’t they? Now, Google is adopting the same world view as Microsoft: There will be different OSes for different platforms (Android and Windows Mobile for phones; Chrome OS and Windows for PCs).

I also think it’s telling that many of Google’s fans seem to be assuming Microsoft is standing still. Yes, Windows 7 is just another version of Windows… a good one, but still another iteration of what Microsoft’s been developing for years.

Remember: Microsoft has a number of projects in the works that I’d say are more likely to be competitors to Chrome OS than is Windows 7. The Gazelle OS-in-a-browser project from Microsoft Research is still just a research project and not in incubation or test-release form. But if Microsoft decides it has legs, they could put it on a fast track. There’s Live Mesh — which is more like Google Wave in theory, than the Chrome OS. But no one at Microsoft has talked publicly about the implications of “meshifying Windows” and what that might look like.

I say welcome to the OS party, Google. But I know I am not going to be in line in late 2010 for a version 1.0 product on a netbook. Will you? And even if you won’t, what kinds of effects do you hope Google getting into the PC OS business will have on Microsoft?

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RE: Will Google's Chrome OS look rusty by late 2010?
makrejktt2201-24353662080873395391113538372983 11th Nov
cfvipj,good post!
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This is a thin client for webapps
Bruce IV 8th Jul 2009
As I read the press release, this is just a thin client for webapps. It looks like the only things that will run will run in a browser. They might be able to pull it off quite well - its built on the Linux kernel, which has really stepped up in hardware support the last few years - especially if you exclude fancy graphics hardware that won't be needed in this context. They should also be able to make it boot very quickly, which will be a win. However, I don't see this really taking off even on netbooks - I think it will power a new category of machine, which I'll call a "webbook". Webbooks will be thin, light, run on ARM chips likely, have very long battery life, and likely little to no local storage (a small fast SSD for system files and browser cache, temp files, etc.). (Internet kiosks in public locations would be another good application for this, especially if Google pulls off some good mass administration tools) It might out-netbook a netbook, but this is not a general purpose OS.
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Missed all the Android Festivities?
Olderdan 8th Jul 2009
All I've heard lately is "Android on this or that platform" ! This is the
equivalent strategy to "windows everywhere." now we're seeing google
everywhere. I'm starting to feel a little bit like we're in the middle of a
Blade Runner franchise war... and Taco Bell is going to win!
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Wrong Reference
Djblois 8th Jul 2009
Your reference is wrong!! lol it is Demolition Man that had the franchise war comment in it with Taco Bell winning! lol
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Right movie, wrong franchise.
cammo2009 2nd Nov 2009
It was Pizza Hut, not Taco Bell that supposedly won the restaurant wars in the Demolition Man world.
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People would break their neck if ...
LBiege Updated - 8th Jul 2009
they try to follow Google fanboys' spinning. One day they tell you Google's web apps will provide closed to desktop user experience so you no longer need a fat client OS any more, then the next day they say all you need is to read your email fast so a stripped down OS w/ minimal user interface is the solution.

You just have to give it to them. O'Reilly spinning factor looks like a rusty machine in front of these fanboys.
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Thin clients have been in the marketplace in various forms for years and they still do not live up to the hype.

That said, positioning ChromeOS as a better netbook OS than Windows (or Linux) might just work (if ChromeOS can deliver) but we already know that consumers won't buy netbooks with Linux & Firefox so ChromeOS has to offer something MORE, not just more of the same.
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NC's, anyone?
evilkillerwhale@... 9th Jul 2009
The NC was a very similar concept. Many thought
Windows was doomed. I'll bet Bill Gates laughed
himself sideways.

People believed netbooks would be ruled by
Linux making them cheaper. Microsoft, again,
kicked Linux in the groin. Why?

It's familiar, easy to use, powerful, AND
SUPPORTED. Notice Red Hat does as well as
anything in the Linux world (desktop wise)?
Support is important. If Chrome doesn't have
support, it'll fail.
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But XP kicked Bill back...
cosuna 9th Jul 2009
evilkillerwhale: Bill really laughed sideways with NC, but not with netbooks.

You're right, netbooks run Windows, but WINDOWS XP... that is 30 to 40 bucks cheaper than WINDOWS VISTA...

So now poor Balmer has a support nightmare with tens of millions of XP users clamoring for support, a software pipeline (Office 14, Messenger 2010, VS 2010, etc. etc) that depends on Windows 7 success (or else all of this products will fail on the market for lack of customers)...

In the other end of the spectrum is Linux, which like the turtle in the fable has been running since 1991, with no driver model change and no software pipeline stuck in the Vista toll booth.

So who's laughing now... not Bill... not Steve (Jobs or Ballmer)... its that little penguin whose turn finally has come...
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Not really.
deowll 9th Jul 2009
This thing is nothing but a launch pad for Chrome. If that is the only thing you need to run it's a winner. If you need to run something else it isn't going to do jack.
The truth of it is that Linux won't take over the world because people only change if they are NEED to. People only change if the product they are changing to is hundreds of times better than what they have. It can't be just as good. It has to be so good that not moving would be foolish, maybe even painful. Linux needs something you can't live without. For example, if Linux could boot up on 0.5 seconds from cold start, could run a system so efficiently that a normal 2 hour battery runs for 12 hours, could compress video from 7 gigs down to 20 megs and allowed for free VOIP services to any phone anywhere in the world I MIGHT look at it. Until then, its just too much of a hastle to mess with learning something new when WIndows does what I need. Windows if fine. Not great. Just fine.

Show me something so cool that I can't resist and I'll switch.
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You didn't hear?

And just like it takes a Ubuntu "remix", in other words a scaled down version with much functionaily in the full "package" cut out, so it will be windows 7. It's already proven it can run on a netbook.


Hey Mary Jo, you are spot on......many of these people actually do think MS is sitting still. LOL!!!


You see, unlike the "fairy tale", the MS rabbit isn't going to lie down with the finish line in site. They took on the Super powers of IT from the 80s and squashed them all...IBM, SUN, APPLE, AT&T..etc etc....what makes you think anything is going to stand in their way now?

Someone posted a link to me in this blog with an "expose" on MS and what they did to poor IBM. It was good for chuckle to start the day if nothing else.
I love those papers with no author, written by some socialist in the EU.
(speaking of socialists, that is where much of open source comes from....the working class pays super high taxes and those who want to do nothing get to sit around tinkering with Linux on the back of the working man. Gotta love socialism.


wink
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What is immediately apparent to millions of us.

?by Jaguarior ? Gott ist h?ssli...

?An empowered, healthy, well educated general workforce is primarily what brought this country to "greatness".

But, say "bye" to that. We, the common people, aka "the masses", became too empowered, healthy and well educated, according to the powers that be. Dumb, weak, desperate people are so much easier to manage (control). What boss wants willful subordinates? What corporation wants employees who say what goes and when, naming their own wages and benefits, etc? None, of course. So, "Time to take 'em down a peg. Let's turn back the clock to a more glorious day!"

?Welcome to the 21st century, folks.

Dictatorial Fascism, FTW! woot! (Not.)


http://www.sodahead.com/question/252477/what-is-the-opposite-of-socialism/
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You are trolling, aren't you?
Jxn 24th Jul 2009
> I love those papers with no author, written by some socialist in the EU.
> (speaking of socialists, that is where much of open source comes from....the working class pays super high taxes and those who want to do nothing get to sit around tinkering with Linux on the back of the working man. Gotta love socialism.

Large part of OpenSource comes from US, the it even started there with GNU, at MIT. Large commercial companies is backing OS up, like IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Oracle and Apple to mention just some.
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You live in hope son!!
Richard Turpin 12th Jul 2009
You mean the penguin with 0.67% of the world market?? Just enjoy using yours as for selling the dam thing..very expensive failure I had a rack full of returns. Like a lot of other dealers I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole again,Joe public want what they know and trust regardless how good a new kid on the block is.
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You forgot something...
Jxn 24th Jul 2009
> It's familiar,
Ok, Vista wasn't
> easy to use,
No, but enough people think so
> powerful,
Hmmm
> AND SUPPORTED.
Again, enough people actually think this...
> Notice Red Hat does as well as
anything in the Linux world (desktop wise)?
> Support is important.
FEALING of support is important.
> If Chrome doesn't have support, it'll fail.
No, but if customers doesn't think that, it is a problem for Chrome.
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Good for WebBooks - not for NetBooks
BillDem 10th Jul 2009
Google OS is definitely geared for web applications and web applications are useless when you aren't on the web. A web OS will be just as useless. BUT - there may be some hope because Google OS, despite the hype engine, is really just Linux with a different window manager and Chrome browser.

I don't really see how a web OS will be very useful in the real world. Netbooks are useful mostly for their tiny size, cheap price, and vast battery life - NOT simply as thin clients for web. Because they use a desktop operating system and desktop applications, getting on the web is only one thing out of many things they can do. Being able to type up notes or presentations on a cross-country flight without the battery dying is more important and you (generally) don't have web access on a plane.

So basically, I read the Google press release about Google Chrome OS and asked myself, "Who cares?" It looks like a waste of time and resources to me.
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Google is also rolling out offline Google Docs.
But Its not yet 100%.

llemm
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Well, GPRS and faster technics will give you what you ask for. But otherwise your analizes was ok.

And are you not a bit self centric here? Not every computer owner go by plane one or more timer a month...
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it's not a Windows Replacement
stewymelb 10th Jul 2009
completely agree - it's just a thin-client model OS. It'll likely have few features that most users will expect to see.

It has the same problems as Linux, and will stay a niche Thin-OS as a result of it - too much choice, too little standardisation. Support for this will be a nightmare.

At least with Wyse OS based thin-clients (where the source may not necessarily be open, but can be chnged to suit a clients needs notheless on a whim) is a standard, allowing it to be used in a broad scale environment.

I keep saying this - fan boys / linux lovers and tech-nerds are the small majority. For the rest of us, an operating system is needs interopability, standardisation and extreme familiarity. Without those three things, it will always be niche. It also needs to be able to be monetised to suvive in a world where monetisation is king.

I love google search, i use it almost on an hourly basis and wouldn't think to go elsewhere. However, my experiences with Chrome / Firefox et al are all the same. An example - I installed Chrome on a number of PC's at my families homes as well as my partners notebook, removed the explorer icon and then told them they had a new / faster browser. 9 out of 10 of them asked me to come back and put IE back repeatedly - things just wouldn't work properly, and they lacked the need / want to be forced down that path.

10% seems to be the golden rule, and why this is not a mass market item.

Competition is great - I applaud it and welcome it, but seriously, it looks to being hyped as a competitor to MS without any factual basis. (and yes, I run osx86, vista, windows 7 and a linux variant), but windows is always the winner for the points mentioned above.
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Excellent Statement
Richard Turpin 12th Jul 2009
I Concur your sentiments entirely,very well articulated.
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it's not a Windows Replacement
Jxn 24th Jul 2009
I wont argue about most in this post. Not becouse it is true, but becouse you will not change. You are to deep in Microsoft.

But I do not agree with "Support for this will be a nightmare". I really can't see that, if it's done propperly, like Ubuntu/Debian. Then it will be really much simpler thatn MS Windows for example.
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When this OS gets released i will give it a try on My Virtual Machine running over My Windows.....

I dont even think of buying a netbook, notebook with chrome OS........Naturally i want my netbook to do more than just web browsing or Using net applications.....
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Then use something else
Jxn 24th Jul 2009
Then you are not the target for Chrome. So then you should look elsewhere. But you could still have this as an primary device, and you could bring the more poverfull computer when you want to run extra virtuall machines, CAD etc...
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RE: Will ...Chrome ...look rusty...?
davebarnes 8th Jul 2009
No.
Chromium does not rust. cf., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust
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lol
temidayoj@... 9th Jul 2009
That was funny!
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Over hyped.
imhassan 8th Jul 2009
Google fanboys and girls seem to be celebrating
April Fools day today since expecting Google OS
to beat WIndows or even OS X is a BIG joke. A
browser isn't the only software people use in
the OS. Google is forgetting the basics and
trying to reinvent the wheel in a different
way.
What if i want to play movies, watch a DVD,
listen to music, edit video, audio, setup a
server, view images and whole lots of other
stuff? ( these ARE things people do on netbooks
) Would I want to fire up a browser for all
that? NO!
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Can do
prof123 8th Jul 2009
All of the above can be done in a web application. I play
games using a web app and there is almost no difference
between that and a desktop app. Large companies are all
switching to web apps... big savings.
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They are not switching to Google's ...
mwagner@... 9th Jul 2009
... web apps. They are developing their own web apps IN-HOUSE for a variety of reasons, and then ONLY if they can deliver a robust experience to their users.
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Precisely
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 10th Jul 2009
Ask any business owner how they'd feel about storing all their corporate documents on servers owned by Google (or MS or anyone else for that matter).

Most companies are pretty paranoid about protecting their corporate assets. Corporate data is their most valuable asset. I know of NO (sane) business who's willing to have Google house (and index) all their corporate docs.
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No kidding
LegendsOfBatman 10th Jul 2009
Im a paranoid home user and barely trust stuff being stored on my home system. How much more paranoid and frustrated would I be with housing my entire computer-life on some stranger's servers?
Then lets pretend Im not paranoid; or, there's no reason to be paranoid. Let's pretend I never have to worry about employees looking at documents, files, etc. We have hackers trying. Ok, let's pretend the servers are 190% hacker proof. I mean, so hacker proof that not even with the best (or is it worst?) minds coming together, can they hack the system. (Im good at pretending). There's still the times that systems naturally go down. Maintenance, overloads, breakdowns, whatever.
I don't care about 99% uptime. I want to access my stuff when I want. And, chances are, I want to access stuff that 1% when the systems will be down.
Since most companies' promises and guarantees are worthless to me, any guarantee they offer is meaningless. So, I personally won't trust any company to host items I can easily store on my own system. I can't imagine any company trusting Google either. (Or any other lame duck company).

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Which jurisdiction?
A.Sinic 10th Jul 2009
Another point, if your documents are stored "in the cloud", just which courts can be used to gain access to them? That is something that every enterprise needs to know. Just who can be snooping in your data? Never mind hackers. Who can be doing it using a court order issued where and in what language? And what laws apply to protect that data? Or oblige you to reveal it?

Frankly, every real enterprise that has _any_ chance of getting into litigation needs to know exactly where ever server that holds their data physically exists. And they need to control that location themselves, not let Google choose it for them.
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We're well on our way to an Orwellian nightmare of epic proportions in this country and the less vulnerable I am to that dark future, the better I sleep. Not only is Big Brother already watching with millions of supercomputer-powered eyes, he's quietly punishing often innocent people on a whim with no recourse or judicial oversight. Anyone who watches 60 minutes knows this but doesn't like to think about it. Between the NSA, FBI, and identity thieves with packet sniffers, depending on the "public cloud" just seems like a really BAD idea. With really powerful idiots in control of intelligence agencies and no oversight holding them back, even law-abiding citizens have to fear that their lives could be ruined through mistakes made by people who don't give a sh**. I'd much rather have my applications and data on my own isolated computers where I at least know who to blame if they get compromised.
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You are wrong..
prof123 Updated - 21st Jul 2009
What about Blackberry? All email is stored or is
transfered at RIM data centers in Waterloo, Canada. This
involves all emails from the U.S. government, White
House, etc. The data is secure because it is encrypted at
the source (Blackberry device) and even RIM doesn't have
the key to read it. Why couldn't you have the same setup
with corporate docs residing on Google cloud? I'm sure
they plan something similar.
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...well up to a point...
TheBottomLineIsAllThatMatters 9th Jul 2009
we were looking at Google Apps for our Asian markets. When a salesmans main transport is a bike with a basket it makes sense. However, Google apps were not up to snuff for the enterprise. Maybe, but right now the "The Beta Company" needs more work.

We are looking at Web Apps but within our own network...issue is connectivity 24X7X52...until that little nut is cracked Chrome has a crack.
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Dude... its a 9" netbook...
cosuna 9th Jul 2009
if you "...want to play movies, watch a DVD,
listen to music, edit video, audio.."... you have the wrong system....

most netbooks don't have a DVD player built in, have tiny 9" LCD screens... and also most of them (not all) have Intel built-in video... so no real time editing stuff...

Then again if you want to "...setup a
server, view images" then all you need is a browser, since most images are jpeg enconded... most servers have a web interface... and most other stuff is being ported to the web... capichi...

I keep half a dozen of my DVDs stored in my EeePC 900 and I watch them on planes all the time. I also have about 16GB of music on there, as well as Open Office and a few other applications. It works perfectly for watching DVDs. Who needs a DVD drive? Just shove a 32GB or larger SDHC card in the side slot and fill it up with whatever. Throw a bunch more stuff on a 64GB thumb drive.

Going cross country on a plane, I've watched TWO full-length movies and then listened to music while typing up a blog post. I was also able to video chat for 30 minutes with my wife and browse the Internet for an hour before I finally plugged the thing in to recharge it. I get about 6 hours of hard use on my extended battery. Plus, it fits in a pocket on my rolling carry-on. No extra laptop case to lug around.

While I wouldn't try to use it for video editing, I have used Picasa 3 on it to view, crop, adjust, and upload camera images. For most non-graphics tasks, it's plenty powerful. We own two laptops at our house and the device I always end up grabbing for trips is the Eee PC. It's easy to get spoiled traveling with a netbook.

If I were picking one from the modern crop, I'd probably be looking at an HP 2040, Aspire One, or Wind. Eee PC may have started the trend, but everyone else left them in the dust with better keyboards and better designs.
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A Choice..
Stixoffire 9th Jul 2009
Maybe people like to slam it down, but remember Microsoft itself when it entered the "OS" market was not considered a threat to anyone, which is why IBM allowed them to retain the License. So before slamming and claiming no one can challenge Microsoft, Free is a good incentive. I can do a lot with Linux - but you know I can do a whole lot more if I have those nifty online apps like Adobe to use (at a much cheaper price.) Price conscious consumers will slowly mitigate much desktop software or adapt online versions of the pricier variants.. give them some time and some room - linux is already making its mark, although Microsoft has been illegally telling people that if they use Linux that they will be sued and need to pay Copyright License to Microsoft .. lets look at Microsofts code and see what they have stolen shall we ?
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Expert
bigpicture 9th Jul 2009
Know much about PCs? As I understand the thrust
is that web apps do not run very fast on todays
browsers. That limitation is because of the
underlying OS and not so much in the limitations of
HTML5. No OS provider seems to be addressing
this issue so Google has stepped in. Think a
powerful version of a phone OS with
correspondingly more powerful web apps. That is
what I understood the Google direction to be. Put all
that together with the new Wave software and their
other web apps and Google will have a stack like MS
but on the internet instead of the PC. Blur the edges
between phone apps and PC apps.
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You can do all that on the web today:
"What if i want to play movies," Hulu, Boxee,
Netflix, Blockbuster

"watch a DVD" (what's a DVD?) Hulu, Boxee,
Netflix, Blockbuster, or, if you just HAVE to
deal with local software, Irfanview and any
number of other media players.

"listen to music" Pandora, Last.FM

"edit video, audio," I can edit pictures today
with Picnik, Video with Jumpcut (Yahoo! owns
it, currently shuttered, will probably show up
in Flickr, but it exists and it works),

"setup a server?" Why set up a server? If all
of my data is on hosted services, I'll let
google run my server, thanks though.

"view images" Yeah, because I'm not able to
view images on the web.

"and whole lots of other stuff?" High end visualization (available today for companies
from IBM and HP), high end video editing, high
end games, are going to exist for people that
want to do that.

I'm thinking of my Mom, and Jane at the office.

Why is corporate america devoting huge
resources to support Microsoft's deeply flawed
product?

Microsoft had it's 20 years. We've been fed
crapware, bloatware, BSOD, Worms, Anti-Virus
software, malware, and more. For a long time,
Windows has been causing far more problems than
it solves. They haven't done anything
innovative since Windows 3.11. It's time for
someone else to give it a shot.

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Who Has Control Of The Data? (nt)
windozefreak 9th Jul 2009
Nt
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But its much more profitable
Ole Man 13th Jul 2009
(for Microsoft, that is)

when the masses know only one way of doing things, and one way only.

Another helping of ignorance?

Yes, please!
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Lets see
Jxn 24th Jul 2009
Jon Doe usually edit videos and set up serves each and every day, do they?
IF they do, then they could do with another computer for that. But everything else you mentioned there is something that is done in a web browser today. (Well, all of it, actually, just not nessesary in the same physical machine as they type from).
I don't see what there is to be excited about either.

Most of the "wins" Google say they have in terms of speed/simplicity/security of XYZ are simply because they don't let the user do XYZ in the first place.

This might be good for people who only *ever* use a web browser and only use web-based apps. Personally, that's my idea of computing hell.

(I'm also sick of "the open source community" being talked about as if it was one group of people with a common goal.)
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bootable motherboards
marees 8th Jul 2009
Remember ASUS and Gigabyte motherboards used to come with bootable linux software, where you can browse the net without hard-drive and installing OS. It will be a great boon when the regular OS crashes.

You can have Chrome installed in the bios instead of using separate hard-drive or flash-drive. That way you can buy a pc first and decide to buy the OS anytime later (if required at all)
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a great boon when the regular OS crashes?
de-void-21165590650301806002836337787023 8th Jul 2009
Why, because you'll be able to surf the web during the 25s it takes for your OS to reboot?

Frankly, I haven't seen any of my machines reboot in YEARS, excluding last week when two ot my PC's showed the BSOD when one's memory chips fried and the other's HDD fried (it was REALLY hot last week and both machines were > 5 years old).

Anyone who is seeing their machines crash is either having hardware issues or their drivers are incorrectly installed and/or in need of updating.
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It can be a lifesaver if your os/hard-disk crashed and you can use alternate os like chrome to browse the forums in the net and download the latest drivers.

The point is you dont have to throw old pc (>5yrs) as junk. you can use it like a net-top while hunting around for your next pc. This ensures Business As Usual and there is no major disruptions in your life.
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Or...
phaser_a 8th Jul 2009
You could use a linux live cd or thumb drive. Personally and professionally, I could never run my apps (photoshop, illustrator, Logic Pro) off of the web. Nor would I want to. I back up important information and like the security of data being on my hard-drive. I couldn't imagine uploading source code or documents that I charge thousands to develop online to a cloud somewhere.
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updating drivers
springerj 9th Jul 2009
I don't mean this as a troll or anything, but I'm just sitting here thinking:
I've been a Mac user since 1984 (my first computer was a mac 128K). I
don't think I have EVER had to update a driver. The whole concept of
"browsing the forums and downloading the latest drivers" is completely
foreign to me.

And I think it ought to be foreign. I don't think any user should ever
have to do that. If there's driver updates, they should just be part of a
general system update that runs automatically. That piece of the Mac
experience Google should design into Chrome.
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CaryRW@... 9th Jul 2009
That's all well and good when you have a monopolistic control over the hardware and software (OS). That's why the majority of the world DOESN'T use Macs. I could argue that if I never wanted "more" function/features from hardware additions, I could be in the same boat as you. But that style of computing is boring.

While Nirvana might be that one could expect MS to provide all updates and do it automatically, that just isn't reality with the number of vendors that provide software and hardware for PC's.
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windozefreak 9th Jul 2009
But windows7 is doing just that, automatically updating drivers. I,m not trolling either, but bet most people don't use Mac because they can't affort it or the "cheapos" meet their needs.
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RE: Will Google's Chrome OS look rusty by late 2010?
makrejktt2201-24353662080873395391113538372983 11th Nov
cfvipj,good post!

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