Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
Summary: Microsoft has begun to notify users of HTC HD7 and Dell Venue Pro Windows Phone 7 handsets that the first two WP7 updates are now available for download. Some Orange and Vodafone/SFR users also are reporting the updates are arriving.
Microsoft has begun to notify users of HTC HD7 and Dell Venue Pro Windows Phone 7 handsets that the first two WP7 updates are now available for download.
On March 29, some WP7 users began tweeting that they received WP7 update notifications from Microsoft on their phones, letting them know the first two updates were ready. The first update -- an update to Microsoft's update mechanism -- downloads first (if users don't have it on their phones already). The second update, codenamed "NoDo," subsequently follows, according to the users.
According to WinRumors, Orange customers also are seeing the updates pushed to them today. Some, according to MobileTechWorld.com's Makram Daou, are saying Vodafone/SFR users are getting the updates, as well.
NoDo is the update which provides copy-and-paste functionality for Windows Phone 7. It also provides overall phone performance improvements and Marketplace search enhancements, users say. Recently announced WP7 devices, like the HTC Arrive on Sprint, already have the first updates preinstalled.
Microsoft has come under considerable fire for not providing the first WP7 updates in a timely manner and failing to communicate openly with users about the update process and timetables.
WP7 users can get some information about the timing of the updates for their particular handsets/carriers by checking Microsoft's recently posted WP7 update status page. However, that page only provides general guidance and not specific dates, a complaint many users have registered loudly and repeatedly.
Microsoft officials said over the weekend that the holdup in the updates has been largely due to carrier testing. Microsoft is the one creating most of the updates for the handful of WP7 handsets on the market, and also the one pushing the updates to users.Microsoft officials said the company was intentionally throttling the delivery of NoDo so as to make sure the update wouldn't be problematic, like the first one was for a number of Samsung users.
A number of enthusiasts began hacking their WP7 phones this week to enable the NoDo update on them, rather than waiting for Microsoft to push the updates to them.
There are still a lot of different WP7 phone/carrier combinations that don't have a delivery target for the first updates. But it's good to see the promised updates are actually starting to fill the delivery pipeline.....
Update: T-Mobile has posted a Knowledge Base article advising users how to apply both the February and NoDo updates. (Thanks to reader @steveymacjr for the pointer.) There's also a list of what's in NoDo available from T-Mobile, too.
Update No. 2: Some T-Mobile users are telling me they got the first update but not NoDo. A number of folks are claiming the rollout is happening geographically, from East Coast to West, here in the U.S. It sounds like both are definitely coming, but the timing may depend on your location....
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RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
Disconnect your phone after the pre-NoDo update and reconnect it and you will get the NoDo update.
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
I also got the February update on my T-Mobile USA HD7, but am still waiting for the March update. Disconnecting and reconnecting and checking for updates through Zune client didn't prompt for NoDo. I was surprised that I wasn't notified on the phone that the February update was available, but connecting and launching the Zune client notified me immediately. My wife also has an HD7, so I'll check to see if she can get NoDo this evening.
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
Yep, the itards will find something else to complain about.
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
As for Mango, care to guess how long that will take?
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
Android getting updates? Is that a joke or April 1st fools day? Androids may get their update 1 year after release, if and when the network allows it.
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
I agree with you. For those who don't root their phone, android is no better than feature phones in terms of updates. But I wasn't looking at it from that perspective. I figured if you were really big on updates, you would probably also be the type to Root and install custom ROM.
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
Apple took 6 months to bring in the app store and two years for C&P and how long before what IOS presently presents as multitasking?, Android was a raw unrefined joke for the first 16 months of its life and hasn't' matched Apple yet for refinement and polish of the overall OS.
Yeah, the trolls like to fan the flames while conveniently forgetting the facts of the past.
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
Probably thinking of another ways to attack.
Let's wait, we all know iFans will not surrender immediately.
(ohhh, they are currently attacking the IDC estimate that Windows Phone 7 will beat iOS in 2015)
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
Thanks for correcting the months.
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
As opposed to what? the two years it took Apple to bring out cut and paste? what about the app store? it seems Apple had no real intention until developers began to pressure Cupertino to give them one almost a year later.
Lets not forget Multitasking on the iphone, still less than satisfactory.
I've owned every iphone up to iphone 4 and it tested my patience with no Multitasking, an absolutely horrible upgrade when I installed IOS4 on my iphone 3G and it took a massive performance and usability hit.
I actually gave my daughter my 3G because I found it unusable as my main Mobile phone and stood in line to buy the iphone 4 last summer. Beautiful phone, serious reception issues thanks to a faulty design, which Apple to this day refuses to admit to.
Nokia could have gone Android and really Google has deep pockets as well, but they chose Windows Phone, there's more to this than just phone,I expect you'll se Nokia bet heavily on Windows 8 powered premium tablets next year.
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
I'm sure apple could have added Multitasking and C&P must faster if they wanted to, but they had no competition at the beginning and they could do whatever they felt. Times are different MS should have really added these features from the beginning or updated within a month or two. Whether you like Apple's way of multitasking is going to vary from person to person.
And yes, google has deep pockets and probably could have paid enough to lock out MS so that Nokia only uses Android. But Google, historically, doesn't try to compete that way.
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
They could have spent a bundle on advertising to get the word out, or take this route which is probally going to be alot more effective.
RE: Windows Phone 7 'NoDo' starts to flow for T-Mobile and Orange users
Oh I hope you're wrong about that. To say "we could make it better... but we're too lazy" is a fairly damning statement. I'm guessing you don't work for Apple's PR dept.