Windows Phone 7 update bricking phones, MS admits carriers can refuse updates
Summary: Unlucky Samsung phone owners are finding the Windows Phone 7 update corrupts the firmware, rendering the handset inoperable (bricking). Microsoft admits the problem and also confirms that carriers have the right to refuse software updates for customers.
Smartphone owners are quick to complain when updates are delayed getting to their phones, but as proven by the current Windows Phone 7 update they are not easy to produce properly. What was claimed to be a minor patch update by Microsoft has been causing some Samsung handsets to fail during the update process. The lucky phone owners affected have the update fail at a point where the phone can be rebooted sans update. A few unlucky Samsung phone owners have the update process corrupt the firmware, rendering the handset inoperable (bricking). Bricked phones must be returned to the black hole of carrier technical support. Microsoft is encouraging owners to hold off on the update for a few days until the issues can be addressed.
This is not a good way for Microsoft to begin the Windows Phone 7 update situation. The company had been criticized in Windows Mobile days of yore for allowing partners to determine if phones would receive an update. A common complaint of WinMo phone owners was that OS updates rarely made it to handsets after purchase due to partner refusal to provide them. WIndows Phone 7 was touted by Microsoft to change that, as the company remained in control of the update ecosystem. This minor update failure for some phones does not make Microsoft look very good to new WP7 owners.
Further sullying the WP7 update situation, Microsoft is admitting that carriers have the right to pass on any update. A WP7 support tech stated in a support forum:
Some Mobile Operators have the right to skip one update if they wish. However, they can't skip the next one, which would be an acumulative update and would include the previous one.
So if your mobile operator decided to block this one, you will be getting the early March one (which will include the Feb one too).
Microsoft first admitted that carriers could block updates right after launch, and while this is an improvement over the update process of old, it's not the same as guaranteeing WP7 owners will receive all updates. It is not a good beginning for WP7 in regards to customer support, and further proves how difficult a process OS updates can be.
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Not bad compared to Android
Android had multiple handsets bricking with many of its updates.
Missing the point
From Ars:
"It's amazing. Given the importance that Microsoft's smartphone platform should have?not to mention the uphill struggle it faces against the iPhone and Android juggernauts?one would have thought that the company would make sure that delivery of the first patch was rock solid and reliable."
Take a look here:
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/02/everything-that-can-go-wrong-with-windows-phone-7-update-does.ars
The question is
The don't update all phones at the same time..
RE: Windows Phone 7 update bricking phones, MS admits carriers can refuse updates
Thanks.. I was just confused by why there was such a focus on Samsung devices. In the blog he states a few have been affected. Also wondering what is meant by a "few". If it is really a small handful then similar issues have been reported with Android and iOS based devices.
RE: Windows Phone 7 update bricking phones, MS admits carriers can refuse updates
I am afraid you are mistaken James. This has been what Microsoft has been saying all along.
http://windowsphonesecrets.com/2010/11/11/the-truth-about-windows-phone-7-software-updates-and-carriers-ability-to-block-those-updates/
As Paul Thurrott reported back in November:
?Updates are cumulative. If a carrier doesn?t get their testing done in time, the next push date comes and it goes out then"
RE: Windows Phone 7 update bricking phones, MS admits carriers can refuse updates
RE: Windows Phone 7 update bricking phones, MS admits carriers can refuse updates
You should act like a fair journalist
but your tone in the comment clearly indicates that you hate Microsoft and enjoy MS bashing as others in this forum. The readers of zdnet are free to choose a camp to like or dislike but you as an official zdnet blogger on zdnet payroll should be true to your profession and present facts abd be fair.
As 1019902735 said, your using the statement 'MS admits carriers can refure updates' implies MS lied which it clearly didnt since they had expressed this earlier that carriers do have the ability to block updates.
More is expected of you James, dont be posting such biased comments please.
You're missing the point.
RE: Windows Phone 7 update bricking phones, MS admits carriers can refuse updates
RE: Windows Phone 7 update bricking phones, MS admits carriers can refuse updates
YOU DON'T OWN A WP7
"I can't wait to get one"....
OWNED.
RE: Windows Phone 7 update bricking phones, MS admits carriers can refuse updates
Not even able to update the updater. Must be that ugly looking monster bricking Windows phones.
Microsoft Apologist = Loverock Davidson
RE: Windows Phone 7 update bricking phones, MS admits carriers can refuse updates
RE: Windows Phone 7 update bricking phones, MS admits carriers can refuse updates
Microsoft Apologist = Rubberduck Rabidson
Loverock Davidson = Rubberduck Rabidson
So it's not just Apple/AT&T bricking phones now?
I was hoping to jump ship and go with MS instead, but now I hear it's not just Apple/AT&T bricking phones but WP7/Samsung too. [sigh]
It kind of makes you long for the good-ol-days when you could actually make a phone call with your phone. I guess I need my land-line back...
Regards,
Jon (also known as, yet another frustrated AT&T victim)
RE: Windows Phone 7 update bricking phones, MS admits carriers can refuse updates
From all that I have heard the iPhones that were ?bricked? were all jail-broken. Now if your phone was not Jail-broken and still got bricked, that might be different. But Didn?t Apple warn iPhone users not to update Jail-Broken, or unsupported phones?
Yes, and no...
Yes, my phone was jail-broken and no, to the best of my knowledge no warning was issued in advance. I certainly didn't get one. If I had I would have avoided the update. I only heard about it after the fact when I called to ask for help once my phone stopped working.
This whole ''we own your property'' and ''we say what you can and can't do with it'' behavior is what put me off Apple and moved me toward more customer friendly offerings.
I was hoping to go to WP7 when my current AT&T contract ends, but now I'm starting to hear about a lot of negatives there too. I must admit it is rather frustrating. Are smart phones really so complicated that no-one can get them to work right?
Have a great day!
Regards,
Jon
RE: Windows Phone 7 update bricking phones, MS admits carriers can refuse updates
<i>This whole ''we own your property'' and ''we say what you can and can't do with it'' behavior is what put me off Apple and moved me toward more customer friendly offerings.</i>
You might want to avoid Microsoft products as well. If I am not mistaken Microsoft has Bricked products also. The xbox 360 is only the latest in that effort to control what a user does with their product. They claim it was to prevent piracy, but how is installing a larger Hard Drive considered Piracy?
Thanks for your advice!