Can open source make Mike Lawrie a winner?

Can open source make Mike Lawrie a winner?

Summary: If Misys wants to compete effectively in open source that will have to change fast. Open source is more than free code, it's a transparent way of doing business.

TOPICS: Open Source

Mike Lawrie, from MisysMike Lawrie (right), the one-time IBM executive who tried and failed to turn around Siebel Systems (now part of Oracle) is back in management with a British outfit, Misys, and betting on open source for a turnaround.

The company is dumping some of its product businesses and concentrating on online services. But what may be most interesting may be how it's planning to offer free code.

Specifically, it will release open source code for harmonizing medical records and handling carbon trading.

No word on which license it will use for this, but its medical records product was already being pressured by OpenEMR, a GPL product.

Most of the word on Misys comes from a single Sunday Telegraph article. The current Misys Web site is terribly opaque.

If Misys wants to compete effectively in open source that will have to change fast.  Open source is more than free code, it's a transparent way of doing business.

Topic: Open Source

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  • OpenEMR

    The correct link for OpenEMR is

    The website is a new product with the same name...

    for full explanation. I sent an email to Dana regarding this issue, you can contact me through if it did not go through.

    -Fred Trotter
  • RE: Can open source make Mike Lawrie a winner?

    I've worked in the Financial Technology Industry for 20 years as both an insider and a consultant. I've never seen someone come in from outside and "get it". Selling CRM Systems or Education Systems to the public sector doesn't make you credible to Wall Street bankers running carbon trading desks. Often the executives that are dropped in to "sort things out" don't have a basic understanding of how an option settles or why a bank measures risk in the way they do. Such executives don't have the understanding of the financial services business to genuinely know their customer. The middle-management understand but their suggestions are often ignored as negativism.

    It's ironic that a junior sales guy Misys hires would have to have far more knowledge of the Healthcare or Financial Sectors than many of the senior executives.

    Finally the thing with Open Source is that you want decent code. A lot of the financial applications that Misys has are really old and represent a poor starting point for any bank project. It's probably cheaper for the bank to simply buy a smaller, leaner and newer competitor and own the code themselves.
  • Misys Open Source Solutions

    I believe that Misys only gave the source code of one (small) useless application (Open Carbon World) that was specifically created for this marketing gimmick.

    Misys Open Source Solutions do exist but their source is far from open. They, however, feel free to dip and take whatever open source tools and libraries are out there.

    Graham Sands, is the brains behind 'Misys Open Source Solutions: Carbon'. You need to place a big rock on your desk and bang your head with it after, so called, 'technical discussion' with him.
  • RE: Can open source make Mike Lawrie a winner?

    [Censored by Bob Barthelmes, Tim Elwell and Mike Lawrie's shame]*

    *Jerry Springer Security.
  • RE: Can open source make Mike Lawrie a winner?

    Rick Bernard, Graham Sands and Catherine Foley left "Misys Open Source Solutions" to go to Ingenix. We don't blame them for walking out--all at once--on their (ex-IBM) salesmen bosses: Mike Lawrie, Tim Elwell and Robert Barthelmes.

    We wish them the best of luck at Ingenix.
  • Ramakrishna Srinivasan

    Twitter's RamTheSkiver offers some comic relief on MOSS's practice of disrupting people's lives.
    Ramesses II
  • Mike Lawrie is a winner with Misys Open Source Solutions!

    Dana, if by winner you mean get rich quick, then yes.

    Mike Lawrie didn't want to spend a penny in Misys Open Source Solutions. He just wanted to milk MOSS for the holistic smell and ensure his $3.2M bonus, along with his buddies million-dollar bonuses, last year.

    Add to that a $2.7M exit fee this year ( and you get a happy Mike Lawrie.

    Apart from the regular PR nonsense and marketing silliness (products inside a nesting doll of boxes that can do Cloud Computing, SaaS, SOA, TOA, LOA, BOA but are DOA) it's over now.
    Deep Throat
  • Misys Open Source Solutions and The Climate Registry

    I was with Misys Open Source Solutions.

    My job was to test MERS (Misys Environmental Registry System), but I didn't do crap. hehe

    Graham Sands made clients do all our testing and told us to hardcode data, hide or make bugs look like features.

    During meetings, Graham Sands and John Winn would make off-color jokes about The Climate Registry being a bunch of tree huggers and hippies.

    We only had two developers, for MERS, both in Bangalore, India. These two were worked twelve hours a day, seven days a week, for $5k/year. Their lives were dismal and their stay, short.

    Graham Sands and his drinking buddies, Rick Bernard and Catherine Foley, didn't do crap. They all ran to OptumInsight / Ingenix, last year, when they couldn't blame developers anymore.

    MERS fell apart because Mike Lawrie built Misys Open Source Solutions on lies and BS; smoke and mirrors. He didn't want to invest a penny in MOSS: Just wanted to milk MOSS for the holistic smell and make a quick buck to ensure his $3.2M bonus.

    Then Konda Mullapudi (Kondayya Mullapudi), from MOSS: Healthcare, was asked to fill Graham's shoes. I worked with Konda Mullapudi many years before and have seen him making progress in his career - from learning email to verbalizing thoughts.

    Konda Mullapudi either did not want this detail or he was unable to do anything. So, Bob Barthelmes, who thought of himself as a demigod, started getting involved in MERS.

    After three years, we finally heard Bob Barthelmes' voice in Bangalore. Like a military commander, he said a six word sentence, hung up and went back to his ham and cheese sandwich.

    To make matters worse, Raghava Kumar Molluru, a former phone repairman, now the director of resources at Misys (Bangalore), didn't want MOSS to succeed (maybe because of his rivalry with Manoj Kumar Bhatt). Raghava Molluru took it upon himself to frustrate key resources till they lost their sanity and left.

    Thanks to Raghavakumar Molluru, MERS was DOA and DOD (Dead on Delivery) and not even Robert Barthelmes speaking to us, during feeding time, could bring it back to life.

    And when crap hit the fan, they blamed their clients for being uncooperative and having no technical knowledge!

    I'm not saying Bob Barthelmes' job as CIO of Misys is just coming up with fake awards and posting them on sleazy PR sites. I'm also not saying Bob Barthelmes has a boasting problem but if he takes a dump, he's likely to come up an award stating that it was perfectly executed.
    Ramesses II