Eurocrats killing open source softly, says Ellison

Eurocrats killing open source softly, says Ellison

Summary: Is the EC's refusal to rubber-stamp the Oracle-Sun deal, pending more investigation, really going to hurt open source? Do the Eurocrats understand what open source is, and what it takes to make it go? Or, by pointing out the possible damage it's doing to open source, has Oracle found the key to making the EC move?

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American billionaires, and even America's government, seem powerless against the big bad bullies of the EC.

So Oracle CEO Larry Ellison is trying another tack. Approve my deal or open source gets it.

Ellison carefully noted that Sun, not Oracle, is losing $100 million each month the deal is not done, and that its cash bleed is accelerating. No, he won't unload mySQL, he added, and mommas don't let your babies grow up to be IT'ers.

It's a subtle game. The EC is not good at subtle. It can take the Eurocrats a long time to decide what to do, and technology does not work that way.

Ellison's words were a reminder.

So is the EC's refusal to rubber-stamp the Oracle-Sun deal, pending more investigation, really going to hurt open source? Do the Eurocrats understand what open source is, and what it takes to make it go? Or, by pointing out the possible damage it's doing to open source, has Oracle found the key to making the EC move?

Topics: Open Source, Oracle

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  • Not so great...

    ...when you're on the receiving end, is it Larry? Seems to me all those who so joyfully cheered the EU on against Microsoft were warned about unintended consequences.

    Carl Rapson
    rapson
    • Not so fast Mr Rapson

      If Ellison is real with that threat its a 2
      sided blade. if the deal don't work in EU and
      sun die ...

      open-source will feel it but someone else will
      catch the ball .... IBM learn the deadly lesson
      last time they would jump on the deal this
      time.

      other will see the power of SUN and could jump
      on it ... Adobe could buy to offer a nice all
      in one can ...

      So i dont see this as unintended consequences
      but more as EU make a choice and are consistent
      with it . if we see a deal or some thing that
      we find not right will impose our will on it
      on our territories.

      there territories, there laws, there choice,
      Quebec-french
      • RE: Eurocrats killing open source softly, says Ellison

        It can take the Eurocrats a long time to decide what to do, and technology does not work that way.<a href="http://ipadbagblog.com/"><font color="LightGrey"> k</font></a>
        zakkiromi
  • It s blade with two side , becareful not to cut your hand

    Well its a 2 sided blade Mr Ellison if you open-
    source get it you will also get it .

    IN the first place why did you buy Sun ....
    Personally and i could be wrong
    1 hardware With Sun you have a truck load of hardware
    and and interesting toys . With that hardware you can
    offer a nice all in one deal .software/ hardware
    /support in one nice package .... you control from
    one end to the other .

    2 free development with Sun you have Open solaris
    ,Sun os (witch are nearly the same except a few twick
    here and there) By supporting Open source version of
    Sun brand you have legion of supporter who knows the
    power of unix .. ... That is a ace in the sleeve .

    3 With Sun you become totally independent of
    everything , you have hardware software your super
    database and you have a nice pet project Mysql....
    The only thing that you need is a powerful office
    suite you have star-office ,open office, you just have
    too go and get a few more toy like email (zimbra hint
    hint ) You wanna pimp star-office get Corel .....(
    word perfect, paint,and all the rest )

    4 you are the potential next Big player compare to MS
    and Mac if you play your thing you could get
    everybody by surprise ....

    in the end if open-source get it as you say you may
    be the one in the end that get it.

    Oracle have money truck load of money if you start a
    few pet project under the right licencing (im not
    saying gpl) create one that will protect you stuff and
    in return give some off it ... you came become the
    leader that open-source need. Its a win-win deal.

    I dont think that this threat is a great one you have
    more to loose that to gain.
    Quebec-french
    • Like hemorrhaging $100 million a month. 10 mths = $1 billion.

      "I dont think that this threat is a great one you have more to loose that to gain."

      In your opinion, how many more truckloads of money should sun lose? Not even M$ could sustain that for very long.

      I thine eye offends thee, pluck it out. At some point you have to cut your losses.

      If the powers that be, don't have the fortitude to make competent timely decisions. Then move on. Don't let em suck you dry like the money vampire, the EC has become.
      invmgr@...
      • ok if they cut there looses ok then what

        they liquidate SUN someone will pick it up.

        IBM or someone else SUN is a little gold mine
        if you know what to do with it.

        if ellison wanna cut its looses great for him
        in tyhe end who will have lost the most ....
        since
        Open-solaris is gpl
        mysql
        open office
        what next

        Quebec-french
  • Ellison has always planned to kill off MySQL, right?

    Larry is a billionaire and he got that way by selling copies of Oracle (the flagship SQL server) and services. MySQL has been a long time thorn in Oracle's side - they see every MySQL deployment as lost income.

    What's worse is that the pending deal itself it hurting Sun since their customers are uncertain what Ellison plans to do with Sun's assets.

    MySQL's fate is in Larry's hands now, and he's loving it. Of course, even if Ellison tries to kill off MySQL, seeing that it is open source, it will simply not die.
    WiredGuy
  • RE: Eurocrats killing open source softly, says Ellison

    Nothing will happen to open source contrary to what Ellison predicts. Open Source, MySQL are independent of Sun or Oracle. In fact the EU is helping the thousands of Sun employees find jobs before they are laid off if the Sun-Oracle merger is approved.
    glensprings