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GNOME: More open source web services, hosting services needed

By | August 12, 2010, 7:49am PDT

Mozilla Weave, Identica and Tomboy Online are among the handful of open source web services on the market — but many more are needed.

Stormy Peters, executive director of the GNOME Foundation, said the open source community has fallen behind Google and other proprietary web services developers and must write more Affero GPL-based web services, integrate them better with the Linux desktop and offer hosting services for open source web services such as Gobby.  

Gobby is an online collaborative text editor, like Google Docs, but has no uptake because it is not hosted, she noted.

Mozilla’s Weave enables browser settings and bookmark synchronization to make it easier to move from one PC to another. Identica is an open source version of Twitter and GNOME’s own Tomboy Online service is a notetaking service.

One audience member pointed to the open source Diaspora social networking service.  Still, it’s clear more Affero GPL web services are needed to stimulate growth in the open source desktop market.  AGPL is a form of GPL for web services.

Peter said users must safeguard and backup their data to protect it in the event that a web service goes down, shuts them out or they want to migrate from Twitter to Identica easily. Too many users don’t have a handle on their data and this is an embarrassment, she claimed.

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Paula Rooney has covered the software and technology industry for more than 20 years, starting with semiconductor design and mini-computer systems at EDN News and later focused on PC software companies including Microsoft, Lotus, Oracle, Red Hat, Novell and other open source and commercial software companies for CRN and PCWeek. She received a silver award from the American Society of Business Publication Editors in 2005 for her profile on Linus Torvalds and edited and co-authored "Partnering With Microsoft," a book about Microsoft's channel published by CMP Publishing in 2004. Rooney graduated from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism in 1997. In her off time, she enjoys scuba diving, sailing, sun worshipping, running, reading, surfing (the net) and hanging out with her family. She resides on the shores of Scituate, Massachusetts.

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RE: GNOME: More open source web services, hosting services needed
musdahi Updated - 21st Sep
GNOME More open about it is bank that website attacked from the site support from any soldier site to the light home page is great source
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ericesque 12th Aug 2010
She makes a case that few hosted open source web services exist, but fails to make a case for creating them.

The concept and benefits of open source either go over most user's heads or to a greater extent they simply don't care. Users are motivated by brand recognition. Google, Microsoft, Yahoo... they trust their data to them because they have some level of confidence that the company isn't going anywhere and that those companies are big enough that they'd get in heaps of trouble if they tried to abuse personal data. Whether or not these sentiments are valid or accurate is not an issue.

This brings me back to why? What value is there in duplicating or even creating new open source web services? It's not a platform compatibility issue. It's not to bring new users into the fold. That leaves perhaps peace of mind for the few hundred thousand Linux users out there?

There could be some reason I'm not considering. Feel free to offer alternate perspectives.
@ericesque Basically. Open source is all about giving choice whether or not people want it. Nobody WANTS a dozen or more choices for things, they want to just pick one that works and be done with it. This concept seems to be missed entirely by the OSS crowd.
GNOME More open about it is bank that website attacked from the site support from any soldier site to the light home page is great source
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Hi Eric,

I think that Stormy made her case: "Too many users don?t have a handle on their data and this is an embarrassment"

One of the reasons I use Free and Open source is to have a handle on my data.

I have several examples, both personal and professional where my data has been practically "hijacked" by reputable tool vendors.

Here are two:
After 5 years managing my personal finances in Quicken (which I paid for), my old computer gave up, I reinstalled and restored my data, but as the Quicken activation page for my version no longer existed I couldn't access my data. The only solution? pay and upgrade. I've used Gnucash since.

At the office we use an HP monitoring solution (in the 7 digits). I created some scripts to generate some reports based on the underlying data. A new version changed the format of the data and stopped providing APIs or ways to access it other than through the tool. The reporting functionality in the tool is lacking but HP didn't care, I couldn't generate the reports any more.

That's what Stormy is talking about. Control your data.
with federated identity. so, if you could email a link to a yahoo or hotmail user, and then they could use their yahoo or hotmail credentials to edit, that would be great. Also, if different providers could host the same applications and have interaction.

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