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Google is not selling out the Internet

By | August 6, 2010, 6:13am PDT

Summary: The solution to this is more WiFi, to unlicense new wireless bands rather than selling them to the highest bidders, who can’t build them out anyway and so try to sell bandwidth through an eye dropper.

Despite the fever dreams of Josh Silver and other net neutrality activists Google is not selling them out.

(Evil Google logo from TechRepublic.)

The idea, which Google CEO Eric Schmidt and Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg explained in a Wall Street Journal piece back in January, is to allow for service level agreements (SLAs) on critical services that need low latency — like large medical files being used in real-time — and leave everything else alone by voluntary agreement.

Ever since a federal court denied the FCC the power to enforce net neutrality in the case of Comcast, the agency and large stakeholders have been seeking a way forward.

When the agency made its proposals for replacement rules a few months ago, the big telcos jumped on it, making clear through allies in Congress they would be overturned — or at least delayed until they became meaningless.

Fact is Google has no financial incentive to sell out net neutrality, but every reason to come up with a fair agreement. Unlike the telcos, Google provides data services and not just pipes. It also has more core assets, managed with more efficiency, than either Verizon or AT&T.

The purpose of coming to an agreement is to allow the market to move forward, in Google’s direction. Right now market conditions favor Google as the low-cost provider of storage, transit, and computing services.

The Heritage Foundation, which doesn’t want the FCC involved at all, is insisting that any deal between Google and Verizon would be between Google and Verizon. It would not obligate AT&T, which wants to limit video traffic over its thin wireless pipes, and would have to be passed by Congress, which has become a telecom black hole.

What’s most problematic to me is the idea that wireless services could throttle video and apps that aren’t paying extra fees for transport. That may be why there are new reports saying the stakeholder talks have ended without a final agreement.

Here’s the deal. Some customers and applications think they need service guarantees to work, but the consumer market does not. Verizon is keeping hands-off the consumer market, knowing that bandwidth market is not capacity constrained, but trying to maintain power over the wireless market, where bandwidth is constrained.

That’s not Google doing evil. That’s Google doing business so the rest of us can, too. The solution to this is more WiFi, to unlicense new wireless bands rather than selling them to the highest bidders, who can’t build them out anyway and so try to sell bandwidth through an eye dropper.

Follow the money. The money is in liberating wireless so it can expand as wired has, to the point where the whole net neutrality debate becomes worthless and SLAs become like the extended warranties on new PCs.

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Dana Blankenhorn has been a business journalist for 30 years, a tech freelancer since 1983.

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  • Translation:
    Google wants net neutrality to guarantee google content and everyone else can just go to h*ll.
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    frgough
    6th Aug 2010
  • Sounds about right
    @frgough
    Same old Google.
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    iPad-awan
    6th Aug 2010
  • RE: Google is not selling out the Internet
    Google is not about it is bank that website attacked from the site support from any soldier site to the light home page is great selling
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    musdahi
    21st Sep
  • Maybe you can
    @frgough

    elaborate on the logic behind that statement, because on the surface it does not make any sense at all. If there is indeed net neutrality, how does that make everyone else go to h*ll?
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    Economister
    7th Aug 2010
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    sparkle farkle
    7th Aug 2010
  • there wouldn't be bottlenecks if there was enough bandwidth
    AKA investment in infrastructure from the telcoms. They don't want to spend the money, and at this point the fcc is powerless to do anything. I'm sure glad it's the internet and not electricity.
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    sparkle farkle
    6th Aug 2010
  • You have things slightly backwards...
    An infrastructure company such as Verizon or ATT or Comcast will be hesitant to invest in growing their networks/bandwidth if there is a threat by government (via the FCC) to regulate or control those networks and the kind of traffic and the amount of traffic they will allow on "their" networks.

    What is the point in investing or growing when the government can step in and issue regulations or controls over your investments?
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    adornoe@...
    6th Aug 2010
  • since the government isn't controlling them now
    I have to assume your trolling for trouble. Monopolists love monopolies. You make a good argument for treating the internet like a utility. Let the telcoms take over the airwaves, and leave the land lines, nation's backbone, and hardwired infrastructure to companies that can provide neutral, reliable, and speedy connections to everyone.
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    sparkle farkle
    7th Aug 2010
  • sparkle farkle: you're way too short-sighted in thinking about the moment..
    since the government isn't controlling them now

    Right...

    and a couple of years ago, when the government wasn't controlling people's decisions about their healthcare, you would've been the first to say "since the government isn't controlling them now, there is nothing to worry about". Shortsightedness is not a good way to go about your life, especially when there are so many bumps on the road ahead.

    I have to assume your trolling for trouble.

    That's pretty silly.

    What is it with people like you? Just because somebody has a different point of view, it has to be because I'm "trolling"? People should stop the use of the word "trolling" on the internet. It's so stupid and overused and abused to the point that it has no real meaning anymore. So, grow up and accept that there will be people with differing opinions, including opinions that you won't like. Besides, I have much better things to do with my time than to go "trolling" for trouble. By the same token, wouldn't I be more correct in stating that it is you that is "trolling" for trouble with your unthinking response to my post?

    I'll stick with the points I made in my last post, and which you haven't retorted to effectively.

    Monopolists love monopolies.

    That's a pretty meaningless statement in regards to the points I made.

    You make a good argument for treating the internet like a utility.

    The internet IS like a utility. In fact, ATT and Verizon and Comcast, as examples, are companies serving up a "utility" type services. Telephone service was and is regarded as a utility operation, so, expanding the way people communicate to include the internet and wireless doesn't really change the functions of those companies.

    Though some companies on the internet may have close to "monopolistic" control in their areas, I don't fault them alone for having achieved that status. A lot of what happens in the private sector is allowed or caused by what government does. In fact, there are many local monopolies that have been set up by government regulations. It is government intervention in the private sector that has created a lot of the problems we have now, and not just when it comes to the internet or wireless or cable television.

    Let the telcoms take over the airwaves, and leave the land lines, nation's backbone, and hardwired infrastructure to companies that can provide neutral, reliable, and speedy connections to everyone.

    It that's your argument against what I said, then you don't really have an argument with me.

    But, I'll re-iterate the main point that I made and for which you didn't have to retort:

    What is the point in investing or growing when the government can step in and issue regulations or controls over your investments?

    Aside from regulations to prevent monopolies and to protect customers and to protect investors from misuse of funding, the government should stay out of the way of the free-market, including the internet and TV and radio and wireless industries.
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    adornoe@...
    8th Aug 2010
  • To answer your question
    It's called market share retention.
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    fpac
    9th Aug 2010
  • fpac: market share retention mostly requires maintenance
    of what a company already has.

    Investing for growth is totally different.

    You didn't really answer my question, so here it goes again:

    What is the point in investing or growing when the government can step in and issue regulations or controls over your investments?
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    adornoe@...
    9th Aug 2010
  • What?? Google has every financial incentive to sell out net neutrality
    faster content delivery = preferred = more ad rev.
    its that simple.
    Btw NONE of googles "services" would qualify as critical.
    And dont forget that it was google who decided not to license wireless spectrum and build it out but instead decided to artificially drive the licensing price up, which was eventually paid by..... thats right Verizon, which btw is building it out
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    Johnny Vegas
    6th Aug 2010
  • RE: Google is not selling out the Internet
    @Johnny Vegas Actually, yes some of Google's services are critial. More hospitals, govt agencies etc are shifting to the Google cloud. Now that the govt has rated it secure enough to access outside of the internal govt networks more and more is going to be critical services. Wouldn't you agree if you get shot because you are a smart ass and pissed off the wrong person, and go to a hospital that is in the Google cloud that you're records not be delayed when a doc has to make a life or death choice? Well in that case, hope it is :P
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    topgun966
    6th Aug 2010
  • Hospitals shifting to Google
    @topgun966

    Name one.
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    jdakula
    8th Aug 2010
  • Actually...
    Google does not have every financial incentive. Their ad-driven revenue for example is backboned off general use. Whether they dip into, or from net neutrality is of little to no consequence to that (and as a matter of fact, it could be argued that by compromising net neutrality, their revenue would suffer. ie: Content delivery based on prefered services vs content preference according to consumer and equal bits on the network).

    The matter is a whole lot more convoluted than most people would think. I'm in Canada currently, and the Telecomm situation here looks to be rather grim at times. The CRTC passed a law, under pressure from Bell and the other fiendish Telcos. What does it concern?

    Bell: "WAH! We won't invest into our networks, backbones, infrastructure nor cores if everyone can offer bulk ISP bundles for the same price/speeds as ours, because financially it's not worth it to us. It doesn't matter that we have a 3% GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT monopoly running for about 100 years now, and several cash-cows we're running into the ground, we just won't do it. NEE NER NEE NER /raspberry."

    CRTC: "Well, we like to think we're competent and we're getting a little pressure from the big guys, so hell, yeah, let the incumbents have their enormous cake that could feed a continent twice over, AND eat it. We'll let all the competition suffer so they don't whine so much."

    From a purely business standpoint, this does make sense, sure. From a human being's standpoint with a half a bloody brain, this is absolutely disgusting and revolting. You're telling me, that despite their cellphone services (which is the majority of their current income)- WHICH CANNOT BE IMMEDIATELY OR ANY TIME SOON REPLACED BY COMPETITION AS THEY WOULD STILL REQUIRE TO RUN ON THE INCUMBENTS NETWORKS (Much like anything else), they're crying that they won't upgrade infrastructure because it will put a little dent into their 3% GDP? (Do you know how much money that is? Look up how much money Canada makes in a year. Multiply that by 0.03. This is one company making that, forget Telus and the rest that also have a chunk of that pie)

    Yeah. Our technology is behind, our infrastructure is behind. I wonder why? Yay money-mongering! It are teh best.

    Japan? 1GBPS for the price of dsl? wtfak? srsly guys? srsly? It makes me cry that we're so far behind in so manny areas, and the reasons are ridiculously trivial.

    /endrant

    Anyways, all this aside, Google had a reason to drive the licensing price up. The wireless spectrum may become more irrelevant as SDR (software defined radio) becomes incredibly efficient. I mean, hell, they're able to differentiate bands within incredibly thin slices nowadays. The licensing hike is not for the sake of pure profit, but to invest into infrastructure. What they propose on top of it, is not to 'shrink' or somehow inflict damage upon the internet, but to provide a frame of context for generic QoS.

    I may not agree with it, as I'd rather see all bits get treated equally, but it's still a far better compromise than 'Bell: Hurr. Derp. We am smarts. Hollywood pay us money? MAI GAD. WE MUST HAXOR TEH BITTORENTZ UNDER GUISE OF NORMAL PRACTICE AS ISP. You haz cable tv online? OKAI- Free sites get shafted in teh bandwidth, lawl.'

    What a damned convoluted topic.
    Telecomm engineer, 3rd year, Sheridan.
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    CommonOddity
    6th Aug 2010

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