IcedRobot launches Android fork to mitigate Oracle-Google war

IcedRobot launches Android fork to mitigate Oracle-Google war

Summary: A group of open source developers have embarked upon a project called IcedRobot that is building a Java virtual machine for Android based on the GPL-based OpenJDK.Yes, they are concerned about the "implications of Oracle winning its lawsuit against Google," noted IP activist Florian Mueller.

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A group of open source developers have embarked upon a project called IcedRobot that is building a Java virtual machine for Android based on the GPL-based OpenJDK.

Yes, they are concerned about the "implications of Oracle winning its lawsuit against Google," noted IP activist Florian Mueller.

IcedRobot is officially an effort to bring the Android API to the Linux desktop. But it's much more than that.

"The goal is to avoid Dalvik and Harmony as much as possible and put the Android stack on top of the OpenJDK class library, and run the whole thing in Hotspot," according to IcedRobot project leaders. "The second goal is the most interesting because it means basically that Android will run on any desktop finally: one environment, one specification one JVM."

Florian Mueller said it's a forking of Android to ensure Java stays open.

"To do this, they apparently also build their own derived version of Android, which is called forking in open source circles, Mueller says. "By integrating Java code available on GPLv2 terms they hope to be safe from legal attacks on Oracle's part, but this depends on what exactly they do and how the implicit patent license contained in the GPLv2 would apply. The more they modify the OpenJDK code, the less likely they are to be covered by that implicit patent license.

"But just the fact that they see a need to act and don't trust that Google will defend itself successfully is interesting. Those are skilled software developers who apparently concluded that they have to take their destiny into their own hands," Mueller said.

Topics: Software Development, Legal, Open Source

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  • funny how more and more nobody seems to trust google anymore

    now they dont even trust them to do their legal work right.
    Ron Bergundy
    • All large for profit companies need to be held acountable and kept in line,

      but, this also helps Google as there will be an alternative in case that the Harmony / Davik code is found in court to not be covered by the patent grant. It also might keep Oracle from being so aggressive if they realize that Harmony / Davik can be switched out.
      DonnieBoy
    • Oh, funny how everybody tries do discredit Google and take the focus off

      of companies like Microsoft, Apple, and Oracle who are really the ones that should not be trusted. No, Google is NOT perfect, and they do need to be kept in check and have their feet held to the fire at times, but, they are in general a lot more open and trustworthy than the others.
      DonnieBoy
      • RE: IcedRobot launches Android fork to mitigate Oracle-Google war

        @DonnieBoy

        On what basis do you conclude that a spyware company is "more open and trustworthy than the others"?
        x I'm tc
      • RE: IcedRobot launches Android fork to mitigate Oracle-Google war

        @DonnieBoy

        I agree that no one is perfect but Google is the company I trust the least in that lot.
        Mythos7
      • RE: IcedRobot launches Android fork to mitigate Oracle-Google war

        @DonnieBoy

        I'm sorry DonnieBoy but I will have to disagree with you here... I will trust MS, Apple and Oracle more than I would unless Google changes its smoke and mirrors routine. I know you're a diehard advocate of Linux and I'm no hater as I love Linux and what it stands for. I've been a long time MS user and know the software inside and out. I'm getting more familiarized with Linux and that is a great plus. The part I disagree is Google's practices where they cannot innovate or come up with anything on their own aside of possibly their search engine itself. I know Linux is open source and really anyone can create their own build but true open source doesn't cram stupid ads into everything you do nor do they spy on everything you do. I've never had anything come from any vendor based on any email conversation nor heard anything about any of those companies WiFi spying or anything else of that nature. Google doesn't believe in privacy aside of what the government forces them to abide by which they still seem to find ways of getting out of trouble. I enjoy things like Ubuntu which is true free open source as well as Firefox where I have the ability to block all tracking servers, banner ads and so on. On the flip side I would be willing to pay for an OS and Office Suite as long as I don't have to see stupid idiot adverts flying around my screen hindering my abilities of being productive. Another downfall is the fact that money is what runs this planet and everyone needs it in order to survive in this world. Companies cannot just survive with our present economy based solely on everything being free with no expectations of returns. Google doesn't know Linux like others do which also offer it for free and ad free which in turn is why they spy or they want you to believe that but I'm sure the gov wouldn't mind fronting some green in order to acquire some information on everyone around the world. Everything comes full circle and if Google keeps it up with its illicit actions that circle will close and Google will be gone.
        audidiablo
      • Guys, give it a break. There is just no comparison between Google and

        Oracle, Microsoft, Apple. Google make all of your data exportable, and they respect privacy, and have very clear policies. Sure, they deliver targeted advertisements based on search terms, but, what do you expect from a free service? Do you not understand that Bing does the same thing?
        DonnieBoy
    • RE: IcedRobot launches Android fork to mitigate Oracle-Google war

      @Ron Bergundy Its not that they don't trust Google. its that they are providing an alternative incase things to south. Its called smart.
      Jimster480
  • Honestly, I don't know why ZDNET continues to give ink to FM

    Pamela Jones on Florian Mueller:

    h-t-t-p://techrights.org/2010/04/11/florian-mueller-and-erika-mann/

    Pamela Jones of Groklaw.net:
    [b]"I can't speak for the entire open source community, just for myself. But if Florian Mueller tells me to go to the right, I'm inclined immediately to look to the left or straight up or down for alternative options. As for Microsoft, in a perfect world, someone will in due time bring an complaint against Microsoft for arranging antitrust complaints against its competition. They should put more energy into creating good products. Then they wouldn't have to resort to such tactics."[/b]

    The Man has very little credibility Paula.
    Dietrich T. Schmitz, ~ Your Linux Advocate
    • RE: IcedRobot launches Android fork to mitigate Oracle-Google war

      @Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate

      <i><b>"someone will in due time bring an complaint against Microsoft for arranging antitrust complaints against its competition"</b></i>
      Will you, then, back lawsuits brought by Microsoft against Oracle, Sun, IBM, Google, Apple et al. for all the lawsuits they backed against Microsoft around the world?
      bitcrazed
    • RE: IcedRobot launches Android fork to mitigate Oracle-Google war

      @Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate
      [i]someone will in due time bring an complaint against Microsoft for arranging antitrust complaints against its competition. [/i]
      I've been telling the same thing for a while!
      The main culprit for this law suit is M$ through its sleeper agents!
      Linux Geek
    • It is PJ who cannot be trusted

      @Dietrich T. Schmitz, Your Linux Advocate <br><br>She has become obsessed with Microsoft and mindless conspiracy theories. She cannot even pretend to be objective anymore. She makes "facts" up and the minions swallow it without ever asking questions. She has made a business preaching to the choir.
      honeymonster
  • Great to keep Google in check and keep their feet held to the fire on

    openness. Of course also good to have an alternative waiting in the wings in case that it is found in court that the Harmony / Davik code is not covered by the patent grants.
    DonnieBoy
  • great for the fork your never too careful

    g
    toxicfreak
  • Just more FUD from Mueller

    It is really nice to see how he manages to paint a project that is intended for the DESKTOP as a fallback solution for the Oracle litigation.

    PJ is spot on.
    BrettlMaster