LibreOffice: Ready for Liftoff

Summary: LibreOffice may, or may not, be in the next version of Ubuntu Linux, but it will be released soon.

LibreOffice, the Oracle-free fork of the OpenOffice office suite, may, or may not, end up being the default office suite in Ubuntu, but its first release is almost here.

Before getting into that though, there have been rumors running around that Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, had already committed to using LibreOffice in its next release, Ubuntu 11.04. True, Ubuntu has always been interested in replacing OpenOffice with LibreOffice Indeed, Mark Shuttleworth told me back when LibreOffice was starting to break away from OpenOffice that, “The Ubuntu Project will be pleased to ship LibreOffice from The Document Foundation in future releases of Ubuntu. That's not the same thing though as saying it's going to ship in Ubuntu 11.04.

Earlier today, Rick Spencer, Ubuntu's Engineering Director, told me that “The Ubuntu desktop team and the community are making a final call on whether to go with Libre or OO.org at the Ubuntu/Linaro Rally scheduled for Dallas next week and assuming a decision is reached there we will confirm it at that point. The informal mail post sent by Matthias, one of our developers was simply pointing out the options available, not confirming a decision.”

No matter what Ubuntu may, or may not, do though LibreOffice is on its way to its first release. Charles-H. Schulz, an executive board member of The Document Foundation, the organization behind LibreOffice, to me that while there's “No hard date yet, but it's one week or so away.”

So, you can expect to be able to download the first release of LibreOffice on the week of January 10th. You can, of course, already download the English-language LibreOffice release candidate for Linux, Windows and Mac OS X.

The full list of what's changed in LibreOffice since its fork from OpenOffice 3.2 can be found in LibreOffice 3.3's release notes. I've been using it myself on Windows XP, Windows 7, and Mint 10 Linux and I can say that even the release candidate works pretty well.

The most significant change from OpenOffice is that LibreOffice supports Microsoft's OpenXML, aka OOXML, format. Not everyone in the open-source world is happy about this.

In a blog posting Schultz explained, "LibreOffice, just like OpenOffice.org offers the ability to handle documents in the format of Microsoft Office 2007 and 2010. As we know, these are called OOXML but are different from the ISO standard (ISO 29500) known as OOXML. Microsoft is trying hard, as far as I know, to work out something that might be implemented by MS Office 2010 and is known as OOXML Transitional, which is the polite label to call a proprietary format that still comes with a lot of undocumented areas. OpenOffice.org has offered such a feature ever since 2008, not by reading whatever specification was sent to the ISO, but in analyzing the format used in the real world and called OOXML . (yes it’s confusing) If OOo had tried to implement OOXML by reading the standard it would have ended in a dead corner, because as we know, the OOXML ISO standard is broken, and the ISO itself with it."

Schultz went on, "LibreOffice is no different than that. But there is one addition compared to OpenOffice.org: where OpenOffice.org allowed the reading of MS Office 2007 and 2010 documents only, we allow their editing and saving under the same format. It does not imply any dramatic extension of features: the same capability is in OpenOffice.org, but it’s been intentionally crippled around 2007 or 2008 for obvious strategic reasons (OOXML hadn’t become a standard yet and MS Office 2007 new formats hadn’t been widely distributed). I would not be surprised if Oracle were to enable such a feature in the coming months."

In short, while The Document Foundation would prefer that you use its native and open format, Open Document Format (ODF), LibreOffice will also support creating, editing, and reading OOXML documents.

LibreOffice works fairly well at this. I've used it to create and transfer documents from LibreOffice to Microsoft Office 2007 and 2010 without losing data or formatting. Now, I wasn't trying anything complicated, but I can say that with LibreOffice you will be to move ordinary business documents and spreadsheets between LibreOffice and the Microsoft Office suites.

For some offices, that will be reason in and of itself to consider switching from Microsoft Office or OpenOffice to LibreOffice. And, I strongly suspect, for Ubuntu to officially embrace LibreOffice into its next Linux release in April.

Topics: Software, Collaboration, Microsoft, Open Source

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  • RE: LibreOffice: Ready for Liftoff

    Too many political and internal issues for this software to lift off. Once they killed the openoffice name they have effectively killed the software as well. I can't see how this is going to gain any traction considering all the users it has lost recently.
    Loverock Davidson
    • RE: LibreOffice: Ready for Liftoff

      A boy with a delusional mind. Openoffice name was not changed, still the default office on Linux systems.
      Once again no evidence to back your claim, you word means nothing.
      choyongpil
    • Thank-you for your ignorable bait. No comment.

      @Loverock Davidson
      peter_erskine@...
  • Ready for Lift Off? maybe a nice crash?

    Libre, as does Open Office has a long way to go to catch up with industry leaders, (read, MS Office). Way behind, years to catch up.

    Yes I can hear the howling now, it?s good enough! Too bad the buying public disagrees with the myopic supporters.
    Cynical99
    • RE: LibreOffice: Ready for Liftoff

      @Cynical99
      No howls here. At near zero cost, it represents a heck of a value, even if it were lesser in all features, and that is not the case.

      In fact, I can't see any reason why an Office user couldn't have it also installed and ready for emergencies, the odd .odf that comes his or her way, or because -- as happened this afternoon with me -- ribbon frustration (so I continued with that spreadsheet in calc.)
      DannyO_0x98
      • Well, as bloated office suites are on the way out in general, LibreOffice

        fits the bill just fine during the transition. I print less and less, and get fewer MS Office attachments all the time.
        DonnieBoy
      • Then why didnt open office or star office or..

        @DannyO_0x98

        any of the other free office suites take off?
        otaddy
    • Actually, I like OpenOffice a lot better because I am used to it. Printing

      on 8.5x11 paper is on the way out in any case, which, is what 90% of MS Office is about. Actually, every year, the baroque features of MS Office look more and more ridiculous.
      DonnieBoy
      • I dont print much with MS Office either

        @DonnieBoy

        Today I managed a project using Excel and OneNote, made technical drawings of our network using Visio and made an executive summary report using PowerPoint...and none of it was printed, nor do I expect the recipients to print them.

        That said, for home use I see Google Docs beating them all. For heavy office needs, people will stick to MS Office.
        otaddy
      • Hahahahahahahahaha

        @DonnieBoy

        Thanks for the laugh. I'll be sure to tell my term paper that, citations and all.
        The one and only, Cylon Centurion
      • I don't see 8.5x11 going out anytime soon

        There will be a need for people to be able to hold a physical copy of things. That will not stop for a long time, especially not with the fact that people don't want to trust their computers (or the cloud) for -everything-.

        What else is there?

        Am I missing some solution that is actually being accepted by a large number of people? What features look ridiculous?
        Michael Alan Goff
      • You're right

        @DonnieBoy <br>I find that I only print A11 and envelopes these days.
        crazydanr@...
    • you're confused. MS Office is barely good enough

      @Cynical99
      Quite easy to come with something better.
      My only grief with OpenOffice is that it mimic too close MSoffice. But at least it work always the same, not the case with MSoffice, with all kind of hidden annoyances, makes any work a pain in the rear
      theo_durcan
  • Ok, SJVN I owe you an apology

    I badgered you about when LibreOffice will be released saying it will be awhile. Well I was proven wrong!

    I still dont think LibreOffice will have much of an effect, other than to waste programmer time duplicating efforts, nor do I think it will take any significant customers away from MS.
    otaddy
    • But it (or OO) has already taken tens of millions away.

      @otaddy Hundreds of governments, councils, companies, educational establishments, and in Europe practically entire populations have switched away from MS.
      peter_erskine@...
      • that may be true but

        @peter_erskine@...

        it hasnt made a dent in Microsoft's profits.

        I doubt entire populations have switched away. While in Germany I was surprised by how many people were running windows and office. (also saw some macs too)
        otaddy
  • RE: LibreOffice: Ready for Liftoff

    I was very disheartened to hear of the breakaway; disunity is death, and stability and branding is important, especially for bureaucracy and business. One reason Linux as a Desktop hasn't gone anywhere is fractured development with hundreds of Distros all with a different look and a myriad of window managers, none of them up to Windows-standard let alone OSX. Firefox is a fairly unique Opensource success-story in the consumer space; they met a need at theright time when IE was stagnant, and they coupled it with good branding and grassroots marketing. Still it doesn't have a hold in business, which stick doggedly with IE6 as "standard", tho some are shifting to newer releases. OpenOffice had/has a brand and a solid brandname backer in Sun, now Oracle, even with them pushing StarOffice in the corporate world instead. Their marketing of OOo was surprisingly absent, perhaps because of their corporate Staroffice focus, they could learn a lot from the grassroots Firefox campaign for the consumer mindshare. This is in danger if they don't come to a resolution quick, be it by the Document foundation's urging of Oracle donating the name to them, and presumably the domain name. The alternative are 2 confusingly similar offerings duplicating some effort, tho they benefit still from each others' work. My understanding was that most of the fulltime developers were Sun employees, so I don't see that changing unless they quit or moved on. For brand confusion alone, I am loath to advocate LibreOffice over OpenOffice, as it doesn't engender confidence to hear of discord with different brandings.

    Ironically, if they were to charge a token fee for business, more would take them seriously, as it lends an impression of "professionalism". It might also make it more valuable to Oracle with better investment, even if they had to maintain a low price. And it would not restrict copying once bought, it would be more a one-off Download fee for business.Business while seeking to cut costs, find it hard to take Free offerings seriously sometimes, as there is stigma attached to most "Free" offerings.
    msandersen
    • Re: &quot;dis-unity&quot;

      @msandersen:

      I think that this will be a very successful migration. Your post considers examples (Firefox, Desktop Linux) which are not at all similar to this Fork. A FAR more relevant example, I think, is the fork of XFree86 back in the 2004-2006 time frame.

      In both instances, the "need to fork" was created by changes in ownership claims and/or licensing. In this instance, Oracle claims complete ownership of stuff which was (maybe!!!) written entirely by others, under licensing terms which appeared (to some) be "open" and irrevocable. The license terms which Oracle now attempts to apply are offensive to some of those authors, and many users too.

      Back in 2003, some Developers of XFree86 were feeling "offended" by the core team's management of the CVS code... similar to the way a lot of Apache Developers, and JCP participants, have been feeling "offended" by management methods of Oracle/Sun. A lot of the XFree86 contributors walked away, and the "old team" eventually voted to disband itself.

      The final "straw which broke the camel's back" with XFree86 was the 4.4 license change, requiring new and extensive "credit clauses". Many previous contributors were further infuriated by the heavy-handed way in which this one done: Basically, one person decided to go ahead and do it. All the major distros (Red Hat, SuSe, Mandriva/Mandrake, Debian and etc.) switched to the fork (X.org's (X11R6.7) as soon as it was released.

      XFree86 still exists as a project, but it's more or less inactive. (If you click the "news" link on their webpage, there isn't any.) It died by abusing contributors, operating without "openness", and by changing license terms. Similar accusations are widely made against Oracle/Sun, and many Distros are already choosing to make LibreOffice their primary choice.

      To me, it seems almost exactly the same. Thus I project a quick win for LibreOffice, leaving OpenOffice.org behind as second-tier (or maybe even 3rd-tier) player in the Office-Document project space.
      Rick S._z
      • RE: LibreOffice: Ready for Liftoff

        @Rick S._z

        Rick, spot on, unfortunately the M$ faithful will continue to think Linux/open source isn't going anywhere, failing to see the huge growth (Android, +90% top 500 super computers run Linux, Apache web sites, Solaris to Linux migrations, NAS devices etc). Hopefully Libreoffice migration will be as smooth as the Xorg project and really get the development it deserves. The global recession is already seeing IT depts question the cost of their M$ habit and are looking at alternatives.
        discoverlinux
      • Linux is going places

        Of course, those places don't involve the groups that people actually care about. Will LibreOffice be any good? Who knows? Will LibreOffice take off in huge numbers? I doubt it. Why? I don't see commercial Linux getting a larger marketshare than 5% at most.

        That being said, Shuttleworth is really one of the best shots for Linux to go anywhere in the consumer market. He has a vision.
        Michael Alan Goff