LibreOffice: Ready for Liftoff
Summary: LibreOffice may, or may not, be in the next version of Ubuntu Linux, but it will be released soon.
LibreOffice, the Oracle-free fork of the OpenOffice office suite, may, or may not, end up being the default office suite in Ubuntu, but its first release is almost here.
Before getting into that though, there have been rumors running around that Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, had already committed to using LibreOffice in its next release, Ubuntu 11.04. True, Ubuntu has always been interested in replacing OpenOffice with LibreOffice Indeed, Mark Shuttleworth told me back when LibreOffice was starting to break away from OpenOffice that, “The Ubuntu Project will be pleased to ship LibreOffice from The Document Foundation in future releases of Ubuntu. That's not the same thing though as saying it's going to ship in Ubuntu 11.04.
Earlier today, Rick Spencer, Ubuntu's Engineering Director, told me that “The Ubuntu desktop team and the community are making a final call on whether to go with Libre or OO.org at the Ubuntu/Linaro Rally scheduled for Dallas next week and assuming a decision is reached there we will confirm it at that point. The informal mail post sent by Matthias, one of our developers was simply pointing out the options available, not confirming a decision.”
No matter what Ubuntu may, or may not, do though LibreOffice is on its way to its first release. Charles-H. Schulz, an executive board member of The Document Foundation, the organization behind LibreOffice, to me that while there's “No hard date yet, but it's one week or so away.”
So, you can expect to be able to download the first release of LibreOffice on the week of January 10th. You can, of course, already download the English-language LibreOffice release candidate for Linux, Windows and Mac OS X.
The full list of what's changed in LibreOffice since its fork from OpenOffice 3.2 can be found in LibreOffice 3.3's release notes. I've been using it myself on Windows XP, Windows 7, and Mint 10 Linux and I can say that even the release candidate works pretty well.
The most significant change from OpenOffice is that LibreOffice supports Microsoft's OpenXML, aka OOXML, format. Not everyone in the open-source world is happy about this.
In a blog posting Schultz explained, "LibreOffice, just like OpenOffice.org offers the ability to handle documents in the format of Microsoft Office 2007 and 2010. As we know, these are called OOXML but are different from the ISO standard (ISO 29500) known as OOXML. Microsoft is trying hard, as far as I know, to work out something that might be implemented by MS Office 2010 and is known as OOXML Transitional, which is the polite label to call a proprietary format that still comes with a lot of undocumented areas. OpenOffice.org has offered such a feature ever since 2008, not by reading whatever specification was sent to the ISO, but in analyzing the format used in the real world and called OOXML . (yes it’s confusing) If OOo had tried to implement OOXML by reading the standard it would have ended in a dead corner, because as we know, the OOXML ISO standard is broken, and the ISO itself with it."
Schultz went on, "LibreOffice is no different than that. But there is one addition compared to OpenOffice.org: where OpenOffice.org allowed the reading of MS Office 2007 and 2010 documents only, we allow their editing and saving under the same format. It does not imply any dramatic extension of features: the same capability is in OpenOffice.org, but it’s been intentionally crippled around 2007 or 2008 for obvious strategic reasons (OOXML hadn’t become a standard yet and MS Office 2007 new formats hadn’t been widely distributed). I would not be surprised if Oracle were to enable such a feature in the coming months."
In short, while The Document Foundation would prefer that you use its native and open format, Open Document Format (ODF), LibreOffice will also support creating, editing, and reading OOXML documents.
LibreOffice works fairly well at this. I've used it to create and transfer documents from LibreOffice to Microsoft Office 2007 and 2010 without losing data or formatting. Now, I wasn't trying anything complicated, but I can say that with LibreOffice you will be to move ordinary business documents and spreadsheets between LibreOffice and the Microsoft Office suites.
For some offices, that will be reason in and of itself to consider switching from Microsoft Office or OpenOffice to LibreOffice. And, I strongly suspect, for Ubuntu to officially embrace LibreOffice into its next Linux release in April.
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RE: LibreOffice: Ready for Liftoff
RE: LibreOffice: Ready for Liftoff
Once again no evidence to back your claim, you word means nothing.
Thank-you for your ignorable bait. No comment.
Ready for Lift Off? maybe a nice crash?
Yes I can hear the howling now, it?s good enough! Too bad the buying public disagrees with the myopic supporters.
RE: LibreOffice: Ready for Liftoff
No howls here. At near zero cost, it represents a heck of a value, even if it were lesser in all features, and that is not the case.
In fact, I can't see any reason why an Office user couldn't have it also installed and ready for emergencies, the odd .odf that comes his or her way, or because -- as happened this afternoon with me -- ribbon frustration (so I continued with that spreadsheet in calc.)
Well, as bloated office suites are on the way out in general, LibreOffice
Then why didnt open office or star office or..
any of the other free office suites take off?
Actually, I like OpenOffice a lot better because I am used to it. Printing
I dont print much with MS Office either
Today I managed a project using Excel and OneNote, made technical drawings of our network using Visio and made an executive summary report using PowerPoint...and none of it was printed, nor do I expect the recipients to print them.
That said, for home use I see Google Docs beating them all. For heavy office needs, people will stick to MS Office.
Hahahahahahahahaha
Thanks for the laugh. I'll be sure to tell my term paper that, citations and all.
I don't see 8.5x11 going out anytime soon
What else is there?
Am I missing some solution that is actually being accepted by a large number of people? What features look ridiculous?
You're right
you're confused. MS Office is barely good enough
Quite easy to come with something better.
My only grief with OpenOffice is that it mimic too close MSoffice. But at least it work always the same, not the case with MSoffice, with all kind of hidden annoyances, makes any work a pain in the rear
Ok, SJVN I owe you an apology
I still dont think LibreOffice will have much of an effect, other than to waste programmer time duplicating efforts, nor do I think it will take any significant customers away from MS.
But it (or OO) has already taken tens of millions away.
that may be true but
it hasnt made a dent in Microsoft's profits.
I doubt entire populations have switched away. While in Germany I was surprised by how many people were running windows and office. (also saw some macs too)
RE: LibreOffice: Ready for Liftoff
Ironically, if they were to charge a token fee for business, more would take them seriously, as it lends an impression of "professionalism". It might also make it more valuable to Oracle with better investment, even if they had to maintain a low price. And it would not restrict copying once bought, it would be more a one-off Download fee for business.Business while seeking to cut costs, find it hard to take Free offerings seriously sometimes, as there is stigma attached to most "Free" offerings.
Re: "dis-unity"
I think that this will be a very successful migration. Your post considers examples (Firefox, Desktop Linux) which are not at all similar to this Fork. A FAR more relevant example, I think, is the fork of XFree86 back in the 2004-2006 time frame.
In both instances, the "need to fork" was created by changes in ownership claims and/or licensing. In this instance, Oracle claims complete ownership of stuff which was (maybe!!!) written entirely by others, under licensing terms which appeared (to some) be "open" and irrevocable. The license terms which Oracle now attempts to apply are offensive to some of those authors, and many users too.
Back in 2003, some Developers of XFree86 were feeling "offended" by the core team's management of the CVS code... similar to the way a lot of Apache Developers, and JCP participants, have been feeling "offended" by management methods of Oracle/Sun. A lot of the XFree86 contributors walked away, and the "old team" eventually voted to disband itself.
The final "straw which broke the camel's back" with XFree86 was the 4.4 license change, requiring new and extensive "credit clauses". Many previous contributors were further infuriated by the heavy-handed way in which this one done: Basically, one person decided to go ahead and do it. All the major distros (Red Hat, SuSe, Mandriva/Mandrake, Debian and etc.) switched to the fork (X.org's (X11R6.7) as soon as it was released.
XFree86 still exists as a project, but it's more or less inactive. (If you click the "news" link on their webpage, there isn't any.) It died by abusing contributors, operating without "openness", and by changing license terms. Similar accusations are widely made against Oracle/Sun, and many Distros are already choosing to make LibreOffice their primary choice.
To me, it seems almost exactly the same. Thus I project a quick win for LibreOffice, leaving OpenOffice.org behind as second-tier (or maybe even 3rd-tier) player in the Office-Document project space.
RE: LibreOffice: Ready for Liftoff
Rick, spot on, unfortunately the M$ faithful will continue to think Linux/open source isn't going anywhere, failing to see the huge growth (Android, +90% top 500 super computers run Linux, Apache web sites, Solaris to Linux migrations, NAS devices etc). Hopefully Libreoffice migration will be as smooth as the Xorg project and really get the development it deserves. The global recession is already seeing IT depts question the cost of their M$ habit and are looking at alternatives.
Linux is going places
That being said, Shuttleworth is really one of the best shots for Linux to go anywhere in the consumer market. He has a vision.