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Linux distro Jolicloud: the future of netbooks?

By | August 6, 2010, 5:35am PDT

Summary: If netbooks have a future it will be through operating environments like this.

Jolicloud, a Linux distribution for small memory netbooks based on Ubuntu, has been released under Version 1.0.

An early reviewer at Webupd8.org notes it’s very Internet dependent and user-friendly, but it lacks applications and new ones must come in via the terminal. That sounds bad, but the anonymous reviewer said he was very impressed.

Former netvibes CEO Tariq Krim (right, from ZDNet UK) is behind Jolicloud. Originally a journalist with La Tribune in France, he says his aim is to see Internet connections become permanent so a kind of collective intelligence can be built.

Some of his other past projects include l8rmedia and Generationmp3. His most recent personal blog post is about France’s need for a CTO. Given his journalism background you might say he has a flair for self-promotion. (Please don’t say that if Om Malik is Dean Martin, then Krim is Jerry Lewis. That joke has been done.)

Jolicloud is in the process of burning through $4.2 million in venture capital from Atomico Ventures and Mangrove Capital Partners.

I would have loved something like this when covering CompuTex in Taiwan last year. Early netbooks running chip memory had very small main drives, and Windows quickly became useless on them. The lack of a proper Broadcom WiFi chip driver bricked the unit when I tried to put Ubuntu on it later. I plan to pull it out and give this a try.

David Meyer of ZDNet UK has an interview with Krim this week, in which he said the launcher is based on HTML5, that it uses code from Google’s Chrome OS (he called Chromium his middleware), and that one of its big advantages is it lets you “re-sync” to other installations, meaning your data is backed up automatically.

The business model is based on cloud services, with JoliCloud as an entry point, Krim said.

On the down side netbooks like the one I used last year are no longer considered interesting, having been replaced by devices like smartphones that come equipped with their own OS. On the upside what’s tired in Silicon Valley is often considered wired in much of the rest of the world. If netbooks have a future it will be through operating environments like this.

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Dana Blankenhorn has been a business journalist for 30 years, a tech freelancer since 1983.

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Dana Blankenhorn

Dana Blankenhorn has been a journalist, writer and part-time futurist for over 30 years.

At the present moment I run only a personal blog in addition to my ZDNet open source blog.

DanaBlankenhorn.Com has the subtitle The War Against Oil. In the past I have used it to write about political history, e-commerce, personal matters, some ideas related to open source, and The World of Always On, which is the idea of using sensors, motes and RFID to turn WiFi links into platforms for applications which live in the air.

My IRA account at Schwab holds a few tech shares, most notably some Intel and Applied Materials, but there are no open source companies in it. I don’t even own any CBS stock.

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Dana Blankenhorn

Dana Blankenhorn has been a business journalist for nearly 25 years and has covered the online world professionally since 1985. He founded the Interactive Age Daily for CMP Media, and has written for the Chicago Tribune, Advertising Age's "NetMarketing" supplement, and dozens of other publications over the years.

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RE: Linux distro Jolicloud: the future of netbooks?
mheartwood 9th Aug 2010
"Always on Internet" is not viable and won't be for a very long time. I say this as an ISP network administrator.

"Mostly on" is what we have now and for most people, that's good enough, but "Always on" (i.e. 99.999% uptime) has a long way to go.

As a result, I think most people will want a few basic applications on their netbooks. I have 2 such devices, love them to death, and couldn't do my work without them. (And a tablet just won't do.) In addition to Firefox, I also have OpenOffice and Thunderbird. (and JEdit but that's me.) That's all I ever use. For the heavy computing work, there's the local private cloud or any one of my heavy desk-top machines.

So Jolicloud is a nice idea, but we're still too far away for the concept to be practical just yet.
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Netbook form factor
roger andre 6th Aug 2010
I think the netbook is a form factor that's here to stay....eventually they will have core i7 type power and one week battery life going on in the box. They'll also blow out cold air and shower you with feel good vibrations.
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RE: Linux distro Jolicloud: the future of netbooks?
kenosha77a Updated - 6th Aug 2010
@roger andre

Ah .. the '60s all over again. I'm feeling the love.

It is interesting to note that Dana admitted that Windows (and I will assume it was XP) on a netbook was not a "long term" computing solution for him. (I'm being kind).

Personally, if I were to own a netbook, I'd install some version of Linux on it. But there are better solutions available for secondary computing needs other than a netbook class device. Dana should talk to Mary Jo and ask for her opinion on this matter.
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Economister Updated - 6th Aug 2010
@kenosha7777

Netbooks are netbooks and tablets are tablets. If you need/prefer a keyboard, tablets are out, including the iPad. And yes, I know about BT foldable keyboards, but they are not a good substitute for a quality integrated keyboard. They also require a stand for the tablet. All in all a hokey poky solution.
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www.cluetechnologies.com
linux had its chance on netbooks and blew it. it had 100% share and more importantly lots of time. And it lost to a 6 year old version of windows. Why do you think that is? Because people wanted windows, not linux. Now netbook run GREAT with Windows 7 and will run even better with all the architecture mods that are happening in Windows 8.
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DanaBlankenhorn 6th Aug 2010
@Johnny Vegas Netbooks, by my definition, are not about weight but the fact they're solid state. No moving parts. No hard drive, no optical drive. Study by design. It's not about the weight.

But because they are so small, light, sturdy and cheap, they are primarily Internet access devices, not laptop replacements. Windows is a terrible Internet access system, because it's designed around other requirements and very, very top-heavy.
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@DanaBlankenhorn I agree. Windows is VERY top-heavy. I will love to have a Cloud-based OS. Though right now I'm looking forward to the Google Chrome OS above all others.
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@Johnny Vegas As I reported at the time, netbook buyers went to Windows not for technical reasons, or because they wanted to, but because Windows offered the cash to pull product through the channel.
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What happened to MeeGo over at ZDNet. MeeGo has a Netbook, Handset, Tablet, and now a IVI OS .. and it is still going to expand. And you think Jolicloud is going to be the one OS?

How about the idea of having a car, tv, desktop, laptop, phone ... all that can connect through the same OS?
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I don't know Jolicloud will succeed
DanaBlankenhorn 6th Aug 2010
@prof.ebral I don't think I predicted success or failure for Jolicloud.
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This is the beginning
hiraghm@... 8th Aug 2010
This is the beginning of turning computers into dumb internet terminals. I was hoping Linux would be a way to avoid and escape this collective.

"We are the Cloud. Lower your anti-virus and surrender your computers. We will add your software and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your mind will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile" - Blakenhorn of Cloud (or possibly Locutus of Borg)

"Arise ye users from your computers,
Arise ye prisoners of thought.
For revolt against reason now thunders
And at last ends the age of Man.
Away with your independence
Servile masses you will be, will be
We'll change henceforth the old tradition
And spurn individuals to win this evil prize.
(chorus)
So, comrades come rally,
And the last fight let us face,
The Cloud unites the inhuman race." (The Cloud-nationale)
@hiraghm@... In my humble opinion, I believe Jolicloud, as a precursor to Chrome OS, is a glimpse into the future. which assumes "always on" Internet access. The problem right now is that this concept is such a change from what most users can conceive that OSes like Jolicloud are just not easy for most people to understand the basic premise.

I have been using Jolicloud for at least 6 months now and have been impressed since day one.

There are requirements for this type of device, that assumes a keyboard (e.g. on a Internet capable device besides a smartphone or a tablet device) that can be used for a wide range of functions.

It will be interesting to continue to watch this evolution and how users react to these options and especially the wide range of web applications (services) that can be used and taken advantage of.

Let's keep rolling Jolicloud.
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"Always on Internet" is not viable and won't be for a very long time. I say this as an ISP network administrator.

"Mostly on" is what we have now and for most people, that's good enough, but "Always on" (i.e. 99.999% uptime) has a long way to go.

As a result, I think most people will want a few basic applications on their netbooks. I have 2 such devices, love them to death, and couldn't do my work without them. (And a tablet just won't do.) In addition to Firefox, I also have OpenOffice and Thunderbird. (and JEdit but that's me.) That's all I ever use. For the heavy computing work, there's the local private cloud or any one of my heavy desk-top machines.

So Jolicloud is a nice idea, but we're still too far away for the concept to be practical just yet.

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