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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols & Paula Rooney

Linux snickers at Microsoft's victory declaration

By | August 15, 2011, 3:30pm PDT

Summary: Who is Microsoft fooling? Other than on the desktop, Linux is eating its lunch, and it’s only going to get worse for Microsoft.

My compadre Ed Bott does a fine job of digging under the surface of Microsoft’s annual report to find that Microsoft no longer considers Linux a serious threat. Who does Microsoft think they’re kidding?

Sure, on the desktop, it’s a Windows world, but guess what Sherlock; the desktop is declining in importance. The mobile, server, Web and cloud worlds are where the twenty-teens’ billionaires will come from, not the desktop. And, guess, who’s already in all those spaces large and in charge? Yes, that’s right, Linux.

Let’s start from the top on where Linux beats Microsoft.

Mobile

The mobile computing world is a dog-fight between Apple iOS and Google’s Linux-based Android. Windows Phone 7 is much of a non-player on smartphone as Linux is on the conventional PC desktop. While Apple owns the high-end of smartphones, Android is cleaning up everywhere else.

Until recently, you could argue that nobody, but nobody, really sold tablets except for Apple. That argument doesn’t hold water any more. Android now has 20% of the tablet market. I wonder, I really do, if that’s why Apple launched its legal attack on the Samsung Galaxy Tab’s design in Europe, Is Apple that insecure? Maybe.

Until the last few days, you might also have been concerned about how Google could fight off the endless legal challenges to Android. You need worry no more about that. Google’s acquisition of Motorola Mobility has given Google all the ammo it needs to win in the mobile patent wars.

Of course, it’s always possible that another mobile operating system will win out. Like say HP’s webOS, which is, ah, Linux based. Or, there’s Intel MeeGo, which is, wow, what do you know, Linux based. You get the picture. One way or the other, tomorrow’s mobile operating systems are likely to be Linux operating systems.

Servers and the Web

There are a lot of Windows Servers instances humming away in offices. It’s hard to say exactly how many Linux servers are out there since you don’t need to buy a Linux server, you can download one, or a hundred and one, for free. Sure, Red Hat, which primarily makes its money from its server offering, Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), is well on its way to being the first billion dollar open-source company, but there are probably far more CentOS, openSUSE, Debian, etc, Linux servers quietly and invisibly running. We just don’t know. What we can count though are Web servers.

According to Netcraft, Microsoft has only 15.86% of the Web server market in August 2011. Apache leads the pack with 65.18%. In third place, you’ll find ngnix with 6.54% and Google takes last place with 4.38%. And what operating system are you most likely to find Apache, ngnix, and Google running on? Yes, you’re right in one, it’s Linux.

It’s not just Web servers though. Supercomputers, the fastest of the fast, run Linux almost exclusively. Cutting edge computing platforms like IBM’s Jeopardy champ Watson? Linux again. It’s not just computing engineers that turn to Linux though. The world’s major stock exchanges also run Linux. Once you’re away from the desktop, you’re living in a Linux world.

The Cloud

I was privileged to speak recently at a small cloud conference in my hometown of Asheville, NC. Two things surprised me there. First, how many new businesses were already actively using the cloud’s scalability to create new business models and, second, how everyone was using Linux on their cloud businesses.

I shouldn’t have been surprised. Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud (Amazon EC2), the most popular of the public clouds, doesn’t report on what operating system images people use on it, but The Cloud Market, does scan Amazon EC2 for operating system and other information. According to The Cloud Market’s numbers, as of August 15th 2011, Ubuntu Linux had 38.4% of all images; that was followed by generic Linux with 31.5% and then Windows with 13.5%. After Windows, there were numerous other Linux variants. Adding it all up and we’re left pretty much with Linux was being used by 86.1% of all cloud users.

So, victory over Linux Microsoft? I think not.

Indeed, even on the desktop, as we turn more and more to using Web browsers for everything, I see Linux winning out in the long run. You’ve had a great run Microsoft, and you’ll still be a power for the rest of this decade, but victory? No, you’re just sliding into a long decline and, at the end of it, Linux will still be behind the scenes running everyone’s back-room services, their tablets, their phones, and, yes, even their Web browser-based PCs ala Google Chrome OS with Linux-powered clouds keeping it all going.

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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, aka sjvn, has been writing about technology and the business of technology since CP/M-80 was the cutting edge, PC operating system

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RE: Linux snickers
ALISON SMOCK 23rd Oct
Linux can snicker?
Fanboy much?
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RE: Linux snickers at Microsoft's victory declaration
businessandpolitics Updated - 15th Aug
@timotim
Every word of the article was true. It's a weak argument to attack the messenger.
@businessandpolitics,

So let's see if I have this right: the current threat is that desktop computers are going to be replaced with locked-down tablets with no keyboard and no freedom to load whatever software you want... and Linux enthusiasts are cheering the downfall of Windows?

I think we have a forest/trees problem here, because unless I'm missing something, Windows is a freaking *blessing* compared to iOS.
@businessandpolitics: "Every word of the article was true."
Not really. The only actually factual information was the web-server market share percentage - but which is just plainly wrong. NetCraft doesn't count servers but domain names (and what kind of servers are behind of them), which is in no way actually usable to calculate web server market shares. It's like calculating car maker market shares by counting the passengers transferred, or comparing the total weight of them.

Also, an Apache web server is not an indication of a Linux box running behind it, as Apache runs on Windows too. Obviously our boy genius author ignored that basic fact.

Actually, all the actual and real information we have on Linux and Windows server sales show that there are still more servers sold with Windows than with Linux. (And no, people don't put Linux on a server bought with Windows - but might do the opposite, so the numbers might be even skewed in favor of Linux, which in this case might be doing even worser in the server market than the numbers let you believe.) See IDC report at: http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS22467210 (summary: Windows account for 46.5%, Linux only for 30.1% of all server sales worldwide).

Btw. I already knew who the author of this article was even before I actually opened it, just by reading the title. That tells a lot about both the author and his creditibility.
@ff2
Genius re-read article. Steve did write; And what operating system are you most likely to find Apache, ngnix, and Google running on? Yes, you?re right in one, it?s Linux.

How many web admins would run Apache on a Windows server and not run IIS.

The netcraft stats still stand, no one can disprove what is written.

You and your follow bloggers listing IDC as source have very different numbers.

Great article Steve.
Hooah!
@daikon

Reading *comprehension* skills are critical when making an internet arguement. Case in point the line you quoted from the article:

First: "Genius re-read article. Steve did write; And what operating system are you most likely to find Apache, ngnix, and Google running on? Yes, youre right in one, its Linux."

The key words in this are "most likely", not "will". "Most likely" means "there's wiggle room".

Next: "How many web admins would run Apache on a Windows server and not run IIS. "

This is conjecture on your part. YOU failed to provide proof that no web admins will run Apache on Windows servers. When you provide that proof, with incontrovertable substantiation from credible sources, then maybe I'll believe you, but I WILL check your facts before confirming what you say.
@wanorris
"So let's see if I have this right: the current threat is that desktop computers are going to be replaced with locked-down tablets with no keyboard and no freedom to load whatever software you want..." - Well, first off, Android tablets are available WITH keyboards (see the ASUS Transformer for one) and Android is not locked-down, as you can install software from any source as long as it is written for the Android OS. So basically, outside of Apple's iOS, your whole argument is bunk... Way to go!
@ff2 - "Actually, all the actual and real information we have on Linux and Windows server sales show that there are still more servers sold with Windows than with Linux. (And no, people don't put Linux on a server bought with Windows - but might do the opposite, so the numbers might be even skewed in favor of Linux, which in this case might be doing even worser in the server market than the numbers let you believe.)"

How much does M$ pay you to post? You couldn't be more wrong with the statement "And no, people don't put Linux on a server bought with Windows - but might do the opposite, so the numbers might be even skewed in favor of Linux". We replace Windows with Linux all the time, and I'm not talking about 10's and 20's of systems, but rather 100's. Almost all lower end systems come with Windows pre-installed just because of MS's anti-competitive practices and the ease of efficient manufacturing.
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@ff2
"And no, people don't put Linux on a server bought with Windows" - Sorry, but actually, they do. We are a mostly Windows shop, but we run Linux for our web servers. Those machines were purchased with Windows licenses as the hardware was not offered without a Windows OS already installed. Once they were received, the drives were formatted and Red Hat was installed.
@businessandpolitics

It was a weak article, period. I can't imagine that anyone thought that was worth the 4 minutes it took to write and one minute it took to conceive.
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@businessandpolitics Every word was true? "Of course, it?s always possible that another mobile operating system will win out. Like say HP?s webOS, which is, ah, Linux based." Since HP is ditching webOS entirely, I don't see it.
@businessandpolitics Every word of that article is BS, written by someone who is clueless. Windows dominates Linux in overall servers, despite the desperate shots of a Linux fanboy.

http://microsoft-news.com/idc-windows-server-dominates-server-revenue-for-q4-2010/

http://blogs.computerworld.com/15675/idc_windows_dominates_linux_in_servers_not_just_the_desktop

Read it and weep! SJVN can keep deleting my posts all he wants. I'll keep reposting, to set the record straight. He needs to stop spouting lies and do more research.
@businessandpolitics Once again. Every word of that article is BS, written by someone who is clueless. Windows dominates Linux in overall servers, despite the desperate shots of a Linux fanboy.

http://microsoft-news.com/idc-windows-server-dominates-server-revenue-for-q4-2010/

http://blogs.computerworld.com/15675/idc_windows_dominates_linux_in_servers_not_just_the_desktop

Read it and weep! Check IDC and Gartner in overall server market share. They will confirm these articles as well. SJVN can keep deleting my posts all he wants. I'll keep reposting, to set the record straight. He needs to stop spouting lies and do more research.
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@timotim

It's a dead parrot.

Oh and Paul Murphy wants his column back or you could join him in his *nix museum wink
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Paul Murphy is gone?
Lester Young 17th Aug
@tonymcs@...

Good for ZDnet.

Why doesn't SJVN just hand his column over to Dietrich T. Schmitz?
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@timotim sjvn is definitely an overzealous fanboy, but he brings up some very good points.

This new mobile landscape boils down to *nix versus Microsoft. There are a lot of companies investing in Linux-based mobile platforms (Google/Motorola, HTC, IBM, LG, etc) versus a single guy (Microsoft) with a big wallet. Though, turns out Apple's wallet has been bulging lately. Once the dust settles, the winner is likely going to be some form of unix-based system, whether it's running iOS, Android, etc.

One thing that will be interesting is once Windows 8 comes out and attempts to grasp the tablet market. All those desktop companies/developers already locked into .NET (VB.NET/C#) will be able to jump directly into the mobile apps without having to learn Objective-C or Java. Could get ugly. Yes, I know Android/iOS can hackishly run C# in the Mono runtime, but Microsoft can easily make it preferable to use .NET proper on Windows 8 tablets).
@bretkuhns
Yes and No.

Currently MS is doing poor job with stating which dev tools will be available on Win8. (Gee, its almost as bad as with WinV and OpenGL, and now they hurting their own tools).

Also Win8 will have to start from zero on tablets (due to different architecture), You know touch interface! Squizing Windows anti-touch programs on tablets do not win market (see Win7).
@bretkuhns

Don't count on dot net on Win tablets. The current push with Microsoft is to go towards HTML5 and JavaScript. Microsoft is correct on that.

But, Microsoft won't have any real chance until Win8 comes out. We don't yet know if that will be a new Win 98, or Win7 or if it will be another Windows Millennium or Vista.

Until then, it will just be an iOS and Linux world there. Android, WebOS, Honeycomb, or whatnot, it's still just iOS and Linux, if you want to look at more than a 0.01% market share.

Mobile devices will be cheap because they will not run most of the applications. they are and will continue to be "Cloud Machines". whether the server is on a shelf in your living room, or in a massive cluster in North Carolina is unimportant. Expensive devices in that space will fail. Why spend $800 for a tablet when one that does everything you want and need can be gotten for $150?

That is why Windows won on the desktop, and it will ultimately be the reason someone wins on the Tablet front. In five years, Apple will be down to around 10% of smartphone users, and the same for tablets.

If Windows wants a place in this space, then they had better get back to Bill Gates basics, and offer the cheapest thing that meets most of the criteria.

Welcome to the future. The 'Desktop' is already obsolete, you just don't realize it yet.

And no, Linux on the Desktop isn't dead, it's just not as big as Microsoft's current 80 to 85% is. Also, at least half of Linux 10% share of that runs both Windows and Linux on the same computer, so there is overlap, and Microsoft knows it. that's why Linux isn't a target for them any more.

Attacking your own customers is a losing proposition. Microsoft learned that watching the RIAA fiascoes of the last 10 years.
@bretkuhns LOL! Are you that clueless? LG, Dell, Acer, Fujitsu, ZTE, HTC, Samsung, and Asus are all invested and making Windows Phone products. All of these companies, plus IBM, nVidia, TI, Qualcomm, and Adreno will be heavily invested in Windows 8.
@YetAnotherBob "
And no, Linux on the Desktop isn't dead, it's just not as big as Microsoft's current 80 to 85% is. Also, at least half of Linux 10% share of that runs both Windows and Linux on the same computer, so there is overlap, and Microsoft knows it. that's why Linux isn't a target for them any more."

Those are some bullsh*t numbers. Windows has 90% marketshare on desktops and laptops, give or take a point or two either way. OS X has a paltry 6-7% market share. Sorry, iOS doesn't count and is not comparable. Linux doesn't have anywhere close to 10% market share. Linux market share is an irrelevant 1% on desktops and laptops. It's practically dead.
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Bwaaaaaah!
kd5auq 16th Aug
@timotim
I wanted so much for MS Windows to beat Forth!
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@timotim

What's that line?

"You can't handle the truth!"

I am overjoyed to see the Micro$lop monopoly slowly erode away.
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Right. Linux is still far behind Windows
William Farrell 16th Aug
@fatman65535
in servers, desktops, and money, and that's eroding away?

I agree. "some" people just can't handle the truth. wink
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Microsoft has it right, Linux is only a threat to themselves. No one in business really cares which operating system they use on condition it is from microsoft.
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RE: Linux snickers
ALISON SMOCK 23rd Oct
Linux can snicker?
Linux can't snicker. Google can't snicker. Microsoft had profits of 54 billion dollars in 2009. Your pet project Ubuntu had profits of 30 million. Yes, Microsoft considers Linux not relevant.
@kyleoster

My bad it was 58 billion and in 2010 it was 62 billion. Shuttleworth said that Canonical isn't making a profit.

Its not a snicker but a whimper.
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RE: Linux snickers at Microsoft's victory declaration
Return_of_the_jedi Updated - 15th Aug
@kyleoster

IBM got them beat -- Linux
Apple got them beat -- Unix-base

Anymore questions?
@Return_of_the_jedi,
If you were talking about market cap (and from both links you posted it looks like that) Apple still ahead over MS. About IBM, MS still ahead of them. If you read the link you posted, you have found this line,
"During mid-day trading, however, IBM shares hit a high of $171.15 and the company topped Microsoft in market value at one point."
Right now, MS market cap. is $213.7B vs $206.6B for IBM. Just wanted to clarify that.
@kyleoster Notice that $4 billion decline you just pointed out? Huh, wonder why...

But you do make a great point about Canonical's profits. I forgot that small players making way less money can't tackle established front-runners in an industry. If only that whole Google thing would've worked out, seemed like a cool search engine.
@kyleoster
mostly come from other, non-Linux sources.

If they dumpped everything and wen't 100% Linux, they'd likely be filing for bankruptcy about now.
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@kyleoster
Well your comment is not better.

There are ~1400 Linux distributors. Its impossible to mesure who develop Linux and how much earn on it. But clearly more companies choose Linux when they want to make something quickly and innovative. (MS provide too much pre-formed things)
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businessandpolitics Updated - 15th Aug
@kyleoster Wait, Canonical actually made a profit??
@kyleoster Duh, dude! For FY2009 MS reported REVENUE of US$58.44 billion (3% decline from previous year) and net income of US$14.57 billion. Anyway any organisation/person/entity that makes that type of profit does not stick around forever as there is plenty of room for competitors to compete without totally screwing the customer. Open source is bringing about a strong revolution in the way software products are brought to market and, yes, lets hope that profit margins are slightly less greedy than the current technology giants. Were you somehow expecting a company that gives away software to match one that sells it wares? The threat posed to MS doesn't come from a single entity like Canonical, it comes from a wave of enlightenment sweeping through organisations around the globe.
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RE: Linux snickers at Microsoft's victory declaration
techadmin.cc@... Updated - 23rd Aug
@kyleoster "Its not about making money its about taking money, interrupting the status quo... and the ststus isn't quo." -- Dr. Horrible

First of all, its not easy to make 54 billion dollars with an operating system that is free... but then again, its not easy making 30 million dollars on an operating that is free. Second, Ubuntu is not Linux. If you were to add up all of the money that all Linux vendors and businesses make/save because of Linux it would make MS 54 billion look like peanuts. And Microsoft knows this. Every free copy of Linux costs them a windows license and likely licenses on other MS software that doesn't run on Linux. A little here a little there but worldwide it all adds up to losses for MS.

You really think Google can't snicker? They have made a few billion of their own without having to pay MS... I'd snicker.
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Sorry, but I have to disagree
daboochmeister 19th Aug
@techadmin.cc@... every free copy of Linux costs MS MORE than one Windows license, since the same server can do more work on average with Linux than Windows, and requires less surrounding infrastructure (ancillary servers), on average.
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Oh Steve that was just delightful. Your best story yet.
Dietrich T. Schmitz * Your Linux Advocate 15th Aug
Peace. Out.
on servers almost 3-1...
@Johnny Vegas
If you can point me to a site that has an account of all the Linux server, then and only then, I'll buy your 3-1. I'm running 3 instances on lappie at any given moment. There, you can start with 3 + my host make 4.

PS. When you are finish counting all the Linux servers in the world, report back with some figures.
@Return_of_the_jedi
the amount of Windows servers in use. The excuse that "Linux is free and therefore an accurate amount is higher then estimated" is just that, an excuse with no substance.

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@Dietrich T. Schmitz God you are a funny little snit.
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Check IDC or Gartner
marksashton 15th Aug
If you want good data on server OS market share, check Gartner or IDC. I found a link to an article by Mary-Jo Foley (below) which references IDC data from 2009 and gives Windows 73.9% market share.

I have access to Gartner but their links are behind the paywall. The most recent public Gartner data that I found has Windows Server with 51.2% server OS share in 2010, up about 1% from 2009. Linux share of server OS market? 8.4%. Yes, Linux leads in Web workloads but is clearly barely in the game on most other workloads.

What's doubly amazing is that Microsoft is gaining share despite competing with 'free' software. Not bad. According to Gartner, revenue from Windows Server in 2010 was $6.2 billion. Linux, including RedHat and all other commercial flavors? $1.1 billion.

By the way, Gartner actually leads their reporting with what they call "OS Revenue and Market Share by Vendor" and Microsoft has an even larger lead by that measure: 78.6% share.

Mary Jo's article: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/behind-the-idc-data-windows-still-no-1-in-server-operating-systems/5408
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Please read the IDC press release
Richard Flude 15th Aug
IDC does NOT claim "Windows 73.9% market share", it shows "Worldwide factory revenue" i.e. revenue from OS shipped by OEMs.

This is the MS revenue model, so it is not surprising they're well represented in these numbers (a market, ie. SBS, that is doing well for them).
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@Richard Flude
that allows you to sleep well must seem an exceptable trade-off to you.
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@Richard Flude
I've installed several new servers and I've yet to see one with an OS installed on it, any OS. OEMs do NOT install operating systems on servers unless you purchased it that way and paid them for the privilege.
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Brewman, IDC measures hose with an OS
Richard Flude 16th Aug
It isn't that difficult, the details are published in the results.

IDC doesn't attempt to measure market share, but factory revenue. Period!
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@BrewmanNH

"I've installed several new servers and I've yet to see one with an OS installed on it, any OS. OEMs do NOT install operating systems on servers unless you purchased it that way and paid them for the privilege."

Your point is pedantic. I have installed plenty of Linux servers on off the shelf hardware that came with a Windows desktop license. Not every server needs to be a RISC proceessor with redundant power supplies. You don't even need to buy a PC to run a Linux server. There are plenty of people and small companies running servers with, HTTP, FTP, VOIP, SAMBA, CUPS, firewall and VPN services on appliance devices that take the place of PCs. Try running all those services on a $75 router or NAS using Windows server.

MS figures for server share assumes that every license sold represents a server in use and that would be a fair assumption. I doubt anyone would intentionally purchase a server with a MS license and then use another OS. But it can and does indeed happen. This can allow for an understandably small margin for error.

Contrary to what another poster said about people buying Linux servers and installing MS server license on that server, I'm sure this is just as rare as someone purchasing a Windows server license and installing Linux instead. Unlike Windows licenses that can be fairly represented Linux licenses can not be so easily counted. Comparing Redhat's sales with MS is irrelevant because Redhat is not the only Linux vendor and many companies can buy a Redhat License for the support and clone the server again and again. Software piracy is not a phenomenon that only occurs in the Windows world. I'm not even sure if its considered piracy in the Redhat world but rest assured that it happens and almost certainly more so than with Windows licenses.

But as I said, Redhat is not Linux; nor is Ubuntu; nor are any of the Linux vendors. The total server count depends on how you define a server. Is a VOIP system a server? Yes, actually it is. And last year 85% of the phone system market is now on VOIP. Most of those do not run windows and are not sold by any of the traditional Linux vendors and are not included in the Gartners or any other server counts. There are plenty of NAS devices running Linux and taking the place of what would normally be a Windows file server. These are not represented in the server counts. It doesn't matter how you try to count servers, Linux server share is always going to be represented with fewer numbers than there actually are.

But the point of this article is not even about server market share. It is that things are changing. MS didn't make most of its money on server share it made it on the desktop and desktop application markets. And that is a diminishing market. Mobile computing platforms and cloud platforms are where the new market is and MS does not have a dominate share or a guaranteed victory. Naming Google rather than Linux as a main competitor in their annual report was not a dismissal of Linux as a threat. Google's threat is a Linux threat. More so than Redhat and all the Linux vendors ever were on the server or desktop.

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