Linux and Open Source
Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols & Paula RooneyMicrosoft: Cloud need only be open surface, not open source
Summary: At Oscon 2011, Gianugo Rabellino, Senior Director for Open Source Communities at Microsoft, said as long as the APIs, protocols and standards for the cloud are open, that is, open surface, customers don’t care about whether the underlying platform is open source or closed source. Microsoft also announced a new version of Azure SDK for PHP is now available and the company is announcing new tools to cloud enable open source applications for Azure.
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Paula Rooney has covered the technology industry for more than 15 years, starting with semiconductor design and mini-computer systems at EDN News and later focused on PC software companies including Microsoft, Lotus, Oracle, Red Hat, Novell and other open source and commercial software companies for CRN and PCWeek. She received a silver award from the American Society of Business Publication Editors in 2005 for her profile on Linus Torvalds and edited and co-authored "Partnering With Microsoft," a book about Microsoft's channel published by CMP Publishing in 2004. Rooney graduated from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism in 1997. In her off time, she enjoys scuba diving, sailing, sun worshipping, running and reading. She resides on the shores of Scituate, Massachusetts.
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Excellent point
Very insightful. I love the "What version of Facebook are you running". Customers need open protocols, not open source.
facebook@...27th Jul -
RE: Microsoft: Cloud need only be open at the surface, not open source
@facebook@...
I agree, I couldn't care less about closed / open source. What bugs me is stuff like proprietary cables for devices (hello Apple) and applications saving to proprietary file formats (hello MS). The "open surface" approach seems like a good way to go about it, hopefully this will go beyond just cloud-based products / services.
OffsideInVancouver27th Jul -
RE: Microsoft: Cloud need only be open at the surface, not open source
@OffsideInVancouver I have never known Apple use a proprietary cable for anything (apart from technology they invented - AppleTalk, Universal Connector, ADB). Now they sometimes choose some pretty obscure standards - but that's a different thing.
When I look at my Mac a lack of cable standardisation isn't something I see. I do a lack of things (no SD Card reader, no eSATA, nothing so ribald as VGA) but that is quite different.
It seems "open surface" is a requirement for entry - especially for Microsoft who's "Windows Azure" hasn't exactly set the world alight. They NEED compatibility, if that every changes I'm certain they will "extend" the platform just as they have always done.
Jeremy-UK27th Jul -
Embrace, extend & eschew nonsense
?We have changed as a company. We have become more open. We want to work with open source comunities,? he said.
Firstly this is because they had absolutely no choice about it, having failed in their bids to lobby/contort the legal system to say that all computing shall belong to Microsoft - which would have culminated in their oft-quoted desire to charge as much for their constantly beta software that's forced upon users as the hardware they are purchasing.
Secondly, they are brushing over the point that they cannot "defeat" FOSS (as is/was their real want) and, as with their Suse/Novell/Whoever dealings, seek merely to be muddying the waters.
Anything but compete on merit.
Mark Selby28th Jul -
RE: Microsoft: Cloud need only be open at the surface, not open source
@OffsideInVancouver They've gotten rich and powerful through being proprie tary, which is their motivation. If they could double their profits by stabbing your mom, they would definitely do it.
alasiri14th Aug -
RE: Microsoft: Cloud need only be open at the surface, not open source
@facebook@...
And Microsoft is the worst company at adhering to protocols. They modify or make up protocols so that Microsoft only protocols can lock in the customer to their buggy software.
Sorry, open source is the way to go, whether you like it or not.
linux for me29th Jul -
RE: Microsoft: Cloud need only be open at the surface, not open source
@linux for me
Do you have a recent example of this? ActiveX Controls are all but deprecated. Microsoft has committed more code to the linux kernel than Apple or Google has.
facebook@...29th Jul -
RE: Microsoft: Cloud need only be open at the surface, not open source
@Facebook
What does Apple or Google have to do with anything.
What specific code did Microsoft commit to Linux kernel?
daikon29th Jul -
RE: Microsoft: Cloud need only be open at the surface, not open source
facebook@
MS commited more commits to kernel than Google!
Not lines of code....
PS you do not have to be donating code to Linux to be FLOSS friendly, Its more of not suing about your mistical 256 patents, not spreading FUD, etc.
przemoli1st Aug -
RE: Microsoft: Cloud need only be open at the surface, not open source
In other news, water is wet, bears have been going into the woods with the "Sports Pages".
Seriously? Microsoft says open source not needed for clouds? Wow, shocking...
Jeremy-UK27th Jul -
Open Cloud Initiative launched this week
The Open Cloud Initiative ( http://www.opencloudinitiative.org/), which launched this week, found essentially the same thing; so long as the interfaces and formats are open, and there are "multiple full, faithful and interoperable implementations" (at least one of which is Open Source) then it's "Open Cloud".
samjohnston27th Jul -
RE: Microsoft: Cloud need only be open at the surface, not open source
@samjohnston
Kudos to Open Cloud Initiative.
Hooah!
daikon27th Jul -
RE: Microsoft: Cloud need only be open at the surface, not open source
@samjohnston
I just don't believe that Microsoft will adhere to the principles put forth by the Open Cloud Initiative (found here: http://www.opencloudinitiative.org/principles ). They have yet to follow these principles, so how is the cloud going to make them any different?
benched4228th Jul -
RE: Microsoft: Cloud need only be open at the surface, not open source
This is actually a surprising response from MS. I'm actually not taking this with a big grain of salt, for once, and it seems MS is being somewhat genuine. I guess they realized that in one way or another they could no longer ignore, or for that matter, destroy the FL/OSS community as they once desired.
It's, ofcourse, questionable as to whether this will be the case. Knowing MS and it's previous business strategies, the flag may yet change direction in the wind.
CommonOddity28th Jul -
RE: Microsoft: Cloud need only be open at the surface, not open source
A quote from the article:
"in the cloud the source code is the Terms of Use and the SLA,"
This sounds like its straight from "1984". Seriously, there is code associated with the software running on cloud servers.
From the article:
"Open core, or open source, is the existing model in which core features are open source and value-added proprietary commercial software is built on top of it to monetize the technology.
This is one model used by successful open-source, software companies to monetize their technology. Another model that has proved successful is to provide services for their open-source technologies. One can also combine the two models.
Google is an interesting open core cloud service provider with Google Search, Gmail, Google Places, Google Docs, Google Apps and, most recently, Google+ running on their customized distributed Linux servers. And dont forget Google File System, MapReduce, BigTable, etc. Yes, 'open core' fits Google quite nicely too.
Rabid Howler Monkey28th Jul
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