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Microsoft patent move may be defensive

By | November 22, 2010, 2:09pm PST

Summary: Microsoft’s plan to purchase 882 patents from Novell may be as much a defense move as an aggressive affront to Linux. One observer pointed out that the Redmond, Wash software company –and the so-called CPTN consortium acquiring the portfolio — may want to prevent VMware, IBM or other rivals from gaining access to the multitude [...]

Microsoft’s plan to purchase 882 patents from Novell may be as much a defense move as an aggressive affront to Linux.

One observer pointed out that the Redmond, Wash software company –and the so-called CPTN consortium acquiring the portfolio — may want to prevent VMware, IBM or other rivals from gaining access to the multitude of software patents, especially those related to the Microsoft-Novell interoperability agreement.

Or, it could be the overture to serious litigation against a Linux provider or another rival in the operating system or applications space, the observer noted.

“This Microsoft connection caught my eye … it’s an intriguing deal,” said Ira Cohen, managing director at Signal Hill Updata, of New York, NY, a banker who helped negotiate a sale to Novell several years ago. “Microsoft wanted this consortium to control patents and did not want them to get it in the hands of VMware or IBM.”

Still, it’s difficult to predict since no one seems to know which group of companies is represented by this mysterious CPTN, he said. No doubt, the U.S. government will likely scrutinize the deal once more details are released to the SEC, Cohen added.

” If we know who the other companies are, it would be easier to guess what’s in it for [Microsoft],” said Andrew Updegrove, a principal at Gesmer Updegrove in Boston who focuses on open source and M&A. “Of course, there could be other consideration going from Microsoft to them as well, such as license rights to other technology. All in all, though, I think that it’s very hard to guess what is up on the
IP and litigation side, given that Novell has acquired a lot of IP over the years.”

Chris Maresca, an industry consultant with lots of experience in the open source world, offered up his take.

“As far as asset sales to Microsoft, I’m going to guess that it’s tied up with the old Netware business, probably IP around Netware over TCP or some such. [It] could be related to SCO/Unix - wouldn’t that be fun?”

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Paula Rooney has covered the software and technology industry for more than 20 years, starting with semiconductor design and mini-computer systems at EDN News and later focused on PC software companies including Microsoft, Lotus, Oracle, Red Hat, Novell and other open source and commercial software companies for CRN and PCWeek. She received a silver award from the American Society of Business Publication Editors in 2005 for her profile on Linus Torvalds and edited and co-authored "Partnering With Microsoft," a book about Microsoft's channel published by CMP Publishing in 2004. Rooney graduated from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism in 1997. In her off time, she enjoys scuba diving, sailing, sun worshipping, running, reading, surfing (the net) and hanging out with her family. She resides on the shores of Scituate, Massachusetts.

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RE: Microsoft patent move may be defensive
THUFIR.HAWAT 19th Dec 2010
@John Zern you're talking about IE being given away free, riiiight?
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Defensive my ass
guihombre 22nd Nov 2010
They're scared, and IP is a trick they think they can use to convert Open Source into closed source.
Similar to Oracles play to turn GPL2 Java into a closed source product after the fact.
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RE: Microsoft patent move may be defensive
DanaBlankenhorn 23rd Nov 2010
@guihombre The history of Microsoft regarding patents indicates that defense is the game they play. They were hosed on many, many patent trolling deals before changing their policy in the last decade, getting lots of patents, and then trying to use them to impose the same "you won't sue me and I won't sue you" policy they had in the last century.
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@DanaBlankenhorn Your post makes no sense because thousands of patents wont do you any good against patent troll. You simply don't have where to slap against patent troll, they have no product, so you can't get an injunction on anything important to them. So this will not help Microsoft against patent trolls.

What Microsoft did here is created its own patent trolling company. A consortium called CPTN Holdings LLC. There is no reason whatsoever to hoard patents into a non-practising (troll) entity like this, and then use it only defensively. If they wanted to use it defensively, they would buy them themselves.

Microsoft created a proxy so they can get around OIN. If microsoft sues by themselves, they are opening themselves for big retaliation by OIN. This way, they can mud the waters.

One is sure, they plan aggression.
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@guihombre How Oracle "converted Java to closed source"? Java is still free under GPL.

Fact tha Apache and Google want everything under give-away license and resort to reimplementing (and it seems, even ripping off) GPL'd code doesn't make Java less free.
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Microsoft needs to change its old behavior
gjafg Updated - 22nd Nov 2010
Microsoft financed the infamous SCO lawsuit against UNIX.

It seems Microsoft may want to resurrect this case. Or continue suing companies that use open-source software, such as Microsoft's suit against TomTom for using Linux to drive its GPS units, or Microsoft's suit against Motorola for using Android.

This sort of behavior from Microsoft is not going to win it any favors, or benefit its business. Microsoft really needs to change its old ways, and stop behaving like this.
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Or it's hands may be forced?
John Zern 22nd Nov 2010
Odd how Google won't back up Android with indemnification clause, nor does it allow anyone to even glimps it's use of open source (though the latter could obviouslly be to hide it's search code algorithym, totally understandable).
Now Oracle is looking into whether code was lifted from them for Android.

Yet those same companies that may be using infringing code are also trying to undercut proprietary software companies by giving it away for free.

Would Ford sit still and take it if Chrysler started giving away it's cars, especially if those cars contained ideas taken form Ford?

But instead of guessing, I say lets wait till we see what those patents pertain to.

Any smart business doesn't run out and tell the world what they bought and why they bought it.
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or Ms if following Oracle
Quebec-french 23rd Nov 2010
@John Zern
Until court resolve what is infringing or not Its FUD period.
From there you claim ''Any smart business doesn't run out and tell the world what they bought and why they bought it.'' yes but there a few thing that need a clear out fast ..... What is GPL what is not GPL so proprietary can adjust and Opensource can also adjust asap. Because this is happening in USA .... how the rest of the globe will react to this .......
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@John Zern
Android itself is open source (http://android.git.kernel.org/) it's just the OEMs haven't been too keen on sharing any of the things they contribute, which is totally doable under the LGPL nature of android. The open handset alliance is a joke right now, neither open nor an alliance. http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/60849
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RE: Microsoft patent move may be defensive
THUFIR.HAWAT 19th Dec 2010
@John Zern you're talking about IE being given away free, riiiight?
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RE: Microsoft patent move may be defensive
Socratesfoot 23rd Nov 2010
@gyepera Wait until MS buys into Linux a little more and then hit them with an anti-trust lawsuit and give all this IP to someone less evil.
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HUmmm that woould be unfortunate at best
Quebec-french 23rd Nov 2010
@Socratesfoot

There a few big player out there that may not like a move like that IBM, Google ,and a few other could also start kicking this ball around. The consequences could be well tense at best
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@gyepera

Are you misinformed or trolling? From your posts on MS I think probably the latter.
Microsoft didn't give a **** whether TomTom is using Linux or DOS 3.1.
They sued TomTom on FAT and TomTom seems to be happy enough to settle.
I guess there's no better open source alternative right now otherwise they'd have used it I assume.
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@herry.k

"I guess there's no better open source alternative right now otherwise they'd have used it I assume. "

Hahahaha. And you say someone is clueless? Everybody knows that FAT is worst filesystem on earth, by any metrc other than marketshare. Every filesystem supported in Linux kernel (and there dozens of them) is few orders of magnitude faster, more scalable, and more reliable than Microsoft FA(R)T.

Only reason why FA(R)T must be suported is the fact that most flash drives come with FA(R)T. And reason for that is Microsoft monopoly, and inability of Windows to support any modern file-system.
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@Gnufreex

I think you didnt understand what herry.k said. FAT may be the worst file system there is but the IP for that is still held by MS and Tom Tom, despite knowing that FAT is bad, and not consulting with you on other great file systems, chose to use FAT.

Turns out according to patent laws, using someone else's junk without consent is illegal
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Neelie Kroes !
Alan Smithie 23rd Nov 2010
Just might have something to says about this one
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FAT
AndyPagin 24th Nov 2010
FAT has the benefits that its relatively simple thus imposing minimal processing overheads on the sort of very low powered devices that use it nowadays. Also it's supported by just about every O/S.
MS only hold patents for VFAT (long filename support) and FAT32.
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Yeah, good for flash based memory
thx-1138_@... 24th Nov 2010
@AndyPagin .. but not good for traditional HDD systems since FAT doesn't allow for encrytable volumes (..which was that major monkey on the back for Win 95 ~ Win98).

..but again, you're absolutely right, still quite effective for flash memory cards and such.
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@AndyPagin except for the fact that FAT fails to support files larger than 4 GiB.
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RE: Microsoft patent move may be defensive
terapeutica 30th Nov 2010
I also believe that Microsoft wants to resurrect this case, or even continue suing those companies that use open source software, hugs to everyone! thanks!
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