Oracle wins mySQL but opponents do not admit defeat

Oracle wins mySQL but opponents do not admit defeat

Summary: Oracle can have Sun, and mySQL, the European Commission has ruled.

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Oracle can have Sun, and mySQL, the European Commission has ruled.

Opponents of the deal like Florian Mueller are holding out hope that China or Russia can derail it, as he wrote me this morning Atlanta time:

Oracle still needs clearance from the Chinese and Russian antitrust authorities and it's a matter of respect not to consider this process finished until those major jurisdictions have also taken and announced their decisions.

Maybe, but these companies only have sales representation in Russia and China, possibly some technical people. Financially the units involved are American and European.

I don't think Russia or China is getting involved. Unless China wants to make a point in its ongoing fight with Google, which is an iron clad leave to yourself from a three-rail billiard shot. (If they do, in other words, ya got trouble right here in River City.)

The EC decided that PostgreSQL is a creditable alternative to mySQL and could replace it in the market if Oracle decides to ditch the product. (Ingres certainly hopes so.) The commission also holds out hope for a fork of mySQL, again should Oracle not invest in it.

The case file also looked at Java, concluding that its community can be an effective check against anything Oracle might want to do with the technology that people don't like.

After all the rhetoric that has gone out from this side of the pond toward Europe, the final report seems to be all that Larry Ellison could ask for. Would he have gotten his way without all the screaming?

We'll never know.

Topics: Data Centers, Data Management, Enterprise Software, Open Source, Oracle, Software, China

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  • I can picture Ballmer throwing chairs

    His agents in the EC failed to disrupt OSS.
    Linux Geek
  • RE: Oracle wins mySQL but opponents do not admit defeat

    mariadb 5.1 is out

    Hail Monty!
    D T Schmitz
  • RE: Oracle wins mySQL but opponents do not admit defeat

    I think that moving to a few large companies is an innovation problem ... we need to move towards more smaller customer focused companies that adhere to a common interfacing standards ... customer's needs get lost in the mix ... therefore, I think that the wrong arguments are being made
    mashford@...
    • Really....?

      ..if that were true, then we would already have seen more innovation within MySQL by the Open Source community than we see within Oracle DB, would we not? Can you point out where MySQL trumps Oracle (other than licensing cost), because I haven't really seen anything but a decade of playing catch-up by the "smaller, more customer-focused" players.
      daftkey
  • RE: Oracle wins mySQL but opponents do not admit defeat

    Goodbye MySQL(old friend)
    aatja01@...
    • Just because

      a profit-oriented organisation buys a 'free' service and either kills it in favour of an existing (and evidently inferior) product, or starts to charge for it, that doesn't mean established installations are going to stop working (just make sure you have a virgin installer downloaded now whilst it's still GPL). There'll just be no upgrades that's all - or at least, no 'official' ones. Hobbyists and enthusiasts will soon come out with a new open source MySQL2 or something.

      Stop panicking. If Sun want to be cynical, let them. OS is far bigger than any individual company - and that includes any and all of the 'big boys' - and whilst the profit-oriented can go bust, OS will not.
      Snak
  • RE: Oracle wins mySQL but opponents do not admit defeat

    Oracal will decide its own fate, and observers would bring it to them!
    Ziyan-Junaideen
  • What will happen to Agile?

    Lest anyone forget, the Agile Manifesto was developed by some folks at Sun. Will it continue to develop, or will we be stuck with the superior ITIL?
    dbecker@...
  • MariaDB or ProgreSQL will replace MySQL

    Don't worry!
    whitenight2010
    • MariaDB is a storage engine...

      not a complete fork.

      Postgres requires rewriting everything that talks to the database and transferring all the data.

      So yeah, I'm gonna worry.
      odubtaig
      • MariaDB is full product not storage engine.

        Its a drop-in replacement for MySQL.
        peter_erskine@...
  • MariaDB or ProgreSQL will replace MySQL

    Don't worry too much!
    whitenight2010
  • RE: Oracle wins mySQL but opponents do not admit defeat

    No, I don't think he'd have gotten his way without all the screaming. That aside however, the thing that most pleased me about this article was the mention of forking should the PTB somehow trash the original product. That is as it should be, and says that such wares can really be "forever free", one way or another.
    twaynesdomain-22354355019875063839220739305988