Linux and Open Source

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols & Paula Rooney

The Open-Source Car

By | July 5, 2011, 10:13am PDT

Summary: Toyota is joining the Linux Foundation.

Besides a V6 as your engine, your car is very likely to soon be running Linux under the hood. The Linux Foundation will be announcing today that Toyota is joining the Foundation.

Some of you may be wondering, “What the heck is a car company doing joining the Linux Foundation?” The answer is easy. As the Foundation puts it, “A major shift is underway in the automotive industry. Car-makers are using new technologies to deliver on consumer expectations for the same connectivity in their cars as they’ve come to expect in their homes and offices. From dashboard computing to In-Vehicle-Infotainment (IVI), automobiles are becoming the latest wireless devices - on wheels.”

And, what’s one of the most popular systems for dashboard computing, heads-up driving displays and IVI? It’s Linux, of course. In a statement, Kenichi Murata, Toyota’s General Manager for Electronics Development said, “Linux gives us the flexibility and technology maturity we require to evolve our In-Vehicle-Infotainment and communications systems to address the expectations of our customers. The Linux Foundation provides us with a neutral forum in which we can collaborate with the world’s leading technology companies on open innovation that accelerates that evolution.”

It’s not just Toyota though that’s using Linux and open-source software in its cars. GENIVI, the non-profit industry alliance committed to driving the broad adoption of an IVI reference platform, has also committed to Linux. To be exact, GENIVI’s members, which include BMW, GM, Peugeot Citroen, and Renault, are backing Intel’s embedded MeeGo Linux.

Other car companies, like Ford with its Sync program have played with open source. In Ford’s case though what the Detroit car company has actually done is to just open up some of their application programming interfaces (API)s.

That said, as Toyota is showing us today, Linux and open source is continuing to grow in importance as the framework for intelligent devices from digital video recorders (DVRs) to smartphone to, yes, the car your driveway. Happy driving!

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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, aka sjvn, has been writing about technology and the business of technology since CP/M-80 was the cutting edge, PC operating system

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Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, aka sjvn, has been writing about technology and the business of technology since CP/M-80 was the cutting edge, PC operating system; 300bps was a fast Internet connection; WordStar was the state of the art word processor; and we liked it!

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re: blakepedersen
blakepedersen 29th Dec
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Having a parent-child bonding is very important to each and every kid and parent out there. http://www.kidsroomdecoratingideas.net/

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Here's a happy one for you. http://www.kidssongs.ca/
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That's great!
Will Pharaoh 5th Jul
Now my car can talk to my toaster! wink
@Will Pharaoh: ... problems. Lets see how well Toyota will do with Linux.
@DeRSSS
that they ever mentioned, they think it's great.
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RE: The Open-Source Car
Rama.NET 5th Jul
@DeRSSS
my friend has ford explorer with Sync and he has no problems and he uses WP7 and iPhone, and both never experienced any issues. I rode with him and I too didn't notice any issues.
@Rama.NET: ... large scale or often failures, but there are discussions about this.
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RE: The Open-Source Car
jscott69 6th Jul
@Will Pharaoh

Actually, Ford has been surprisingly open about the difficulty that many of its customers have had with the Sync system -- specifically about its complexity, more than it not working. Ford has said the system's interface is complicated and that they're working on improving it.

The tablet and smartphone interfaces -- be it iOS, WP7 or something like WebOS or Android -- would seem to be fairly appropriate for an in-car system. It just tends to take the auto industry a while to figure out that someone else has already been down this road and figured out the best route, so why reinvent the wheel? (How's that for mixing a few auto-related metaphors?)

I think they're getting it now, so the next systems should be far easier to use and much more intuitive (or at least familiar).
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@DeRSSS : Linux is "road-tested". SYNC, just like BMW's iDrive are Vista/Honeycomb-like scenarios, that is, products releases before they were ready for prime time...

You see, building a BSP (Board Support Package) for Windows Embedded Compact 6.0 R3 (WEC6R3 aka WinCE6) can take months of debugging and is rendered useless if you change one component. In case you don't know, that's what killed the "NoDo" upgrade on Windows Phone 7 (based on WEC6R3) on the Samsung phones.

Linux on the other hand, has millions of drivers, inherited from it's PC era. You don't need a BSP. You just build a kernel with the proper driver support and voil?... you can put your favorite front end on top.
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Micheldb 8th Sep
@DeRSSS I think not so well wink

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Amygosp Updated - 18th Oct
@DeRSSS haha lets see how hyundai does with ubuntu! reverse mortgage pros and cons
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Lavlas 4th Nov
@DeRSSS Open-Source Car it is a great project and I think that thay will not have problem with Linux. gallbladder
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halilturker 24th Aug
That said, as Toyota is showing us today, Linux and open source is continuing to grow in importance as the framework for intelligent devices from digital video recorders (DVRs) to smartphone to, yes, the car your driveway. Happy driving!
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runeklan 6th Oct
@Will Pharaoh

"Besides a learn violin online V6 as your engine, your car is very likely to soon be running Linux under the hood. The Linux Foundation will be announcing today that Toyota is joining the Foundation."
Four words: NOT A GOOD IDEA!
Seriously, what were glaucoma eyes drops they thinking? Adding Linux to a car? Yeah, sure, let's make it easy for the entire world to hack your car, steal everything inside it, get you to drive when the light is red, stop bright eyes drops your car and rob you. The list could go on and on, really.

Sorry, but I just don't like this idea!
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re: blakepedersen
blakepedersen 29th Dec
Any one on the lookout for Kelowna real estate listings Will be probably have a firm grasp on the type of area they want to live but they may not have the full picture of what this area has to offer in particular in terms of an authentic and enriching locale that is radically different for many of the real-estate options you are likely to find in Canada when it comes to culture surrounding and atmosphere. http://www.kelownarealestatelistings.ca/

Having a parent-child bonding is very important to each and every kid and parent out there. http://www.kidsroomdecoratingideas.net/

It's the way you ride the trail that counts,
Here's a happy one for you. http://www.kidssongs.ca/
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Just think, with Toyota's legendary brake issues, will Open Source make them better?

From a quality standpoint can you imagine toyota making their ABS brake system code available to the public and asking the community to do a quality review (remember that's one of Open Source's strong points, many eyes looking at the code)?

I don't think so, this code will become as proprietary as possible, never be released, and be as tightly guarded as Fort Knox.

Toyota's only goal is to gain access to all those freebies in the Open Source community that the basement dwelling coders giving their lives away for free are so willing to contribute.

Considering Toyota's corporate culture (Tokyo knows best, everyone else be quiet!), one wonders what the real goal is?

Run the engine components on Linux? Probably not. Run the GPS and dashboard stuff on Linux? Maybe.

Just remember, there's more to open source than Linux -
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@Cynical99 Exactly. Your infotainment may have Linux UI elements in the future.
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Linux own the embedded market today
Richard Flude 5th Jul
Why would they use anything else?

Using the Linux kernel doesn't require you open source you userland application code.

Free kernel, extensive embedded toolkits and development tools, high quality, reliable, full source. Why would you select anything else?

Formembedded Linux is the obvious choice these days.
@Richard Flude

Yes, for vending machines, embedded OS solutions (like my SG560), for machines of all types where you are not:

connecting a scanner using a camera needing access to current, high quality software needing sustainable, reliable platform wanting a consistant user interface ane user experience since there is no desktop because it is not a desktop computer concerned with having to perform updates and patches does not worry about a threat being introduced by a technician's test equipment if it has been exploited (ala the Iranian Nuclear Program computers)

I agree that Linux is probably for most applications the best embedded OS kernel around.
* some scanner manufacturers can provide drivers on pair with Windows scanners. Do not buy those that cant find their own ***** with GPS.

* buy Vista ready camera, they just work under Linux (Win7 ready, Win8 ready will also work), big thx to MS for that

* did forgot to add "specialized"

* Linux is good for Google, Amazon, MS, Oracle, .... who else should use Linux?

* iOS show that YOU MUST have desktop everywhere.... That they do not buy it, right?

* ..... ...... My Ubuntu update service serves all updates to all of my installed apps..... ..... (have you ever used Linux? on desktop, server, mobilephone?)

* translate it for me pls. Did not understand this sentence at all. (what do Iranian Nuclear Program computers have to do with Linux, or Win, or Mac, usefullnes as desktop operating system)

And all above is NOT relevant to IVI or any other kind of software you would find in your car (unlse you take your PC/netbook with you on a ride)
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przemoli 7th Jul
@Cynical99
Yes!!!
They are joining LINUX fundation, to not to use Linux.

Yes!!!
Only pure crazy, unemployed work on Linux. Those mystical paid developers from thousands of companies and foundations do not exist!

Yes!!!
Toyota have best IT stuff in the world. And no gree just-after-colegue programmers employed by IBM, RH, Sony, etc. can understand properly Toyotas code!
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daikon 5th Jul
Kudos to Toyota.

Hooah!
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another nail in M$ coffin!
Linux Geek 5th Jul
Everyone is seeing the future as being FOSS.
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@Linux Geek I dont know what type of nails is FOSS hammering into MS. Its been more than 20 years and the coffin is still open !! grin
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Winning in what way?
Will Pharaoh Updated - 6th Jul
@ScorpioBlue

That's a weird statement - How is it winning.

It's not used on the desktop all that much at all.
It's still not the most popular server OS.

It's running my router? (is that why it's so troublesome?) happy

So you buy a router and are stuck with what's in it, yet buy a computer based on what OS it's running.

So how exactly is this "winning"? happy
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ScorpioBlue 6th Jul
@Will Pharaoh

Well I dunno know what you're replying to. Maybe you shouldn't flag and delete my posts before I have a chance to respond.

Try thinking first before flagging if you want an answer.
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LoverockDavidson 5th Jul
So the kernel won't be the only thing crashing. I won't be buying any Toyota's.
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LoverockDavidson 5th Jul
@garyc2008
Childish name calling or physical harm to me will not be tolerated so I flagged your post. Also, what did that post have to do with anything? A divide by zero error in the code caused a boat to be stranded. Are you saying that will happen to these Toyota's if they use linux?
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@garyc2008
and (if you read the artricle) was attributed to bad data that was fed into an application running on one of the 16 computers on the LAN

Isn't what you just did called "desparation"?

Guess I'll go pull up some Linux stories from that time frame.

Think I could find some? wink
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It would appear that people do not like you refuting their statements with facts.
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blind obedience 5th Jul
So the kernel won't be the only thing crashing. I won't be buying any Toyota's.

@LoverockDavidson
So stop making stupid statements. You only invite them upon yourself.

Moron.
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LoverockDavidson 6th Jul
@blind obedience
Why? My statement was true.
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ScorpioBlue 6th Jul
Why? My statement was true.

LOL only a moron would believe that.
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garyc2008 6th Jul
garyc2008, I have heard that BMW's navigation system

is one of the more unreliable systems placed in an automobile.

Could their switch to Linux be the cause, I wonder?

Well I actually OWN a 2007 BMW 530d and have never had any trouble with sat nav.........

Pity you can't afford one yourself to find out.....and just base your posts on "what you heard".........shame

maybe you are thinking of the 1st gen iDrives that were notoriously buggy, but they were based on Win CE

PS on the Subject of Windows CE

PS 2 people VERY lucky to be alive today.....Win CE almost suffocated them to death.....VERY lucky indeed

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1027711/did-microsoft-software-crash-trap-finance-minister-in-limo
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LoverockDavidson 6th Jul
@garyc2008
Wrong again. There is nothing in that article or any of the other articles I've read on that subject that says Windows was involved. Everything was just speculation that it had Windows.
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CobaltDragon 5th Jul
great, so will my car be just as un-user-friendly as Linux itself?
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LoverockDavidson 5th Jul
@CobaltDragon
Yes, if you don't agree with your car it will call you names like n00b and tell you to RTFM if you don't know how to drive it.
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anothercanuck 5th Jul
@LoverockDavidson Still better than be stranded in the middle of nowhere after some malfunctioning MS server decides to revoke your car's Windows license.
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is one of the more unreliable systems placed in an automobile.

Could their switch to Linux be the cause, I wonder?

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ScorpioBlue 6th Jul
is one of the more unreliable systems placed in an automobile.

Or is this more speculation on your part.

In case you don't know it, speculation is not fact.
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@LoverockDavidson
All the people who disagree with him are flagged! happy
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Hallowed are the Ori 6th Jul
@LoverockDavidson

LOL
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ScorpioBlue 6th Jul
@Will Pharaoh no I only flag people who flag me first. And they're are only two of you anyway. You know who they are.

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