Yankee Group report: Linux won't disappear

Yankee Group report: Linux won't disappear

Summary: Checking out Data Point, I found this Yankee Group release on heterogenous networks that states the obvious "Linux is here, Windows is not going away and heterogeneity is the order of the day." I'm glad we've finally established that.

TOPICS: Open Source

Checking out Data Point, I found this Yankee Group release on heterogenous networks that states the obvious "Linux is here, Windows is not going away and heterogeneity is the order of the day." I'm glad we've finally established that. I'm eagerly awaiting the next Yankee Group report, "Many system administrators drink coffee."

Enough snark, though. There is some solid (if obvious) advice. For example, the Yankee Group advises that "Microsoft and its third-party ISVs must work cooperatively with the Linux distribution and application vendors to foster smooth integration between the two environments." Indeed. Businesses and organizations have been looking for this kind of support from Microsoft, ISVs and OEMs for quite some time -- it's about time that the consulting firms start advising cooperation.

I particularly like this advice from Yankee, "Don't be afraid to take your business elsewhere, if faced with vendor recalcitrance." For quite some time, the attitude seems to have been that vendors really only needed to support Windows, and the Linux community would have to be responsible for going the extra mile to try to ensure that Linux worked on the full gamut of hardware and so forth.

It seems that everyone, including Microsoft has realized that their customers want Linux. Of course, realizing it and acting on it are two different things. For those of you "in the trenches," I'd like to ask which vendors are doing the best of supporting Linux and Windows, and which vendors are providing the best tools for managing a heterogenous infrastructure. I have a few ideas of my own, of course, but I'd like to hear from you. Give me your thoughts in the TalkBack.

Topic: Open Source

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  • Manufacturer support for GNU/Linux

    Although their offerings are proprietary (and I'm more partial to GPL stuff), as an avid gamer I've found both NViDIA and ATI very cooperative in supporting their hardware for GNU/Linux users.
    • NViDIA and ATI very cooperative

      Apple ipod
  • Do they know?

    Do they know that Bill Gate will buy Sun and tear off Java and make it Microsoft only platform so all Unix platform lose main horse for dynamic scripting! Linux+Apache+PHP be the alternative only. Let's see what will happen after the Java license on MS IE exprires!
    • Novell better jump on Sun before MS does.

      I can't understand why Novell doesn't buy Sun? It would seem like a match made in heaven. As Sun stock keep dropping and things keep looking worse for them they need to be bought out and Novell would really benefit from the unix programmers (which I hear mostly use linux) and and the licenses to other *ix code. Sun is highly responsible for so much of the opensource code and Java tools it seems like Novell would see them as a big advantage. Everyone brags about OpenOffice but no one remembers who brought OpenOffice to the table. Novell + Sun = Super Linux for the desktop. MS + Sun = stumbling block to Linux. Novell or IBM better act fast.
  • Caffeine free since 83

    Not all sysadmins drink coffee! In terms of vendors that do a good job with Linux support, I don't know any. Sure, Company "F" went with Big Blue - since they were the ONLY one with a Linux and UNIX strategy (not HP or Sun), but their support is in the dark ages compared with Sun (best) and HP (trying). Big companies like/need to be coddled - and 800-number, same-old same-old treatment that IBM provides is pretty lame. IBM acts as a middleman for Linux problems - they take the issue and pass it on to Novell, who then pass it on to the OSS community. Heck, WE could do THAT ourselves! Why pay IBM the big bucks? Anywho, Big Blue is better than nottin' . . .
    Roger Ramjet
  • MS will try to take Opensource credit-Just watch

    Now that OpenSource has left the trenches and is finally making daily headlines just watch as MS will try to steal the thunder. It's already happening. MS is taking reponsibility for the attention going to sourceforge. They opened up a little code and some was used in the development of mySql 4.1 and this makes headlines eventhough its just opening some API's (<sarcasm>big deal</sarcasm>).

    In the same fashion that Billy boy leased DOS to IBM before he had purchased it and MS is going to do it again to the public with opensource.

    Frankly this irritates me and I hope that IBM, Novell, SUN, HP and all the others opening code and courting Linux will keep the playing field equitable. Microsoft doesn't need any more credit they seem to be as puffed up as possible. They will soon suffer the inflation crash like the US economy in the 20's. They have exploited technology consumers long enough and like in all naturally organized systems equilibrium will self regulate them back into check.

    You will know it's happened when you see televsion adds by Dell advertising Linux desktops computers. And you see the Microsoft tax statement disappear from the adds of computer vendors sites and pages that say (Vendor)recommends Microsoft? Windows? XP Professional.

    Just my 2cents.
  • Two different things

    [i]Of course, realizing it and acting on it are two different things.[/i]

    Oh, MS is acting on it. However, considering their option/benefit matrix it shouldn't come as a big surprise that the actions they take are to [b]impede[/b] interoperation rather than aid it. After all, it's their game right now and lack of interoperability hurts Linux more than it hurts them.
    Yagotta B. Kidding
  • Microsoft will frustrate all interoperability

    Microsoft "worked with" Word Perfect, Lotis, Netscape and DBase giving the image of cooperating while doing whatever they could to frustrate a smooth interface with MS Windows. They have ample experience in undermining competition and I am sure they will continue to create as many roadblocks as possible for Linux. They have nothing to gain by being overly cooperative.
  • A timely topic...

    Very timely... Today, not many companies can competently support a mix of Windows and Linux. MS probably won't offer much on its own (though it may discretely invest here and there...) and the Linux community doesn't like MS a lot. But this need is going to be fulfilled. We can be sure of that. It's just a question of time. e.g already - middle ground vendors like Vintella or Interstructures appear to have compelling solutions and aim at blurring the lines between Linux and Windows management.
  • The Job

    This is true, and all the trash talk about Linux is just a smoke screen. And at times it seems that the buzz word loyalty is just another way of an IT/Admin saying I don't want an environment I'm not used to deploying and administering! Don't get me wrong. If your an expert in one environment and your good at what you do than great. More power to you. However, if the environment demands Linux and windows intergration, then gear up for it. The Job it self demands diversity, no matter the environment. We are expected to provide solutions on demand. I don't expect much support from MS and it's ISV's, but where they fail open source will succeed. I still own my first copy of DOS as well as first copies of Linux,FreeBSD,OS2, and many other DOS's. I have always liked MAC and love OSX. I love this stuff it's what I do. I would be foolish to expect an end all be all solution for everything from one vendor. Start making patch cables, here we go!!