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The end of applications?

By | August 10, 2006, 11:19am PDT

Sometimes someone says something at a conference that really knocks me for a loop. Such was the case at the High Performance Computer Architecture Conference last year. In typical panel fashion, a group of us were each given a few minutes to state our position on the future of computer architecture.

The panelist were chosen to represent a broad spectrum of architectural views from the traditional (x86) to the more radical (Cell) along with a software viewpoint. …it becomes harder and harder for developers to build, let alone imagine, applications with dramatically new capabilities. The hardware panelists more or less stuck to their respective party lines, but the software speaker said something that I won’t soon forget, “Since all of the interesting applications have been written, why is that you guys are still inventing new architectures? What IT managers want now is just lower cost hardware and easier to manage systems. That’s what you should be working on!”

Now I like a provocative panelist as much as anyone, but I just couldn’t swallow the line about the end of applications. I’m squarely in the camp that believes that the truly compelling computer applications have yet to be built.

At first I put the applications comment under the same heading as other famously wrong-headed thoughts about computing such as “only six electronic digital computers would be required to satisfy the computing needs of the entire United States” (Howard Aiken) and “there is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home” (Ken Olsen). The more I thought about it, however, the more I began to realize that it was easier than I first thought to reach conclusion that the era of new applications was over. There are at least three factors at work here.

First, virtually all the mundane clerical tasks of the 19th and 20th centuries are now done with computers. Today’s productivity suites, for example, are regularly criticized as bloatware reflecting the fact that developers continue to add features, while not adding to the fundamental utility of the toolset. Databases are enormously more useful than the filing cabinets and card catalogs they replaced, but new releases have less to do with new capabilities and more to do with scalability, manageability, and security.

Second, the human interface has not evolved much beyond what Chuck Thacker’s Alto personal computer and Alan Kay’s Smalltalk windows and browsers demonstrated some thirty years ago. While the fidelity of the graphics interface is much better, most of what we see today is just eye candy.

Third, computer hardware evolves at a rate that is largely governed by Moore’s Law. Ten or fifteen years ago, general purpose performance was improving almost at the same rate as the transistor budgets were increasing. In other words, processor performance doubled every 18 to 24 months just as the number of transistors in a square millimeter of die area doubled in that same time period. For a number of years, this behavior was known as Joy’s Law after Bill Joy of Sun Microsystems, one of the first people to observe the trend. Unfortunately, two-fold performance gains are no longer occurring every two years despite the fact that Moore’s Law continues to hold to that two-year cadence.

With much less than a 2x improvement in processor performance every two years, it becomes harder and harder for developers to build, let alone imagine, applications with dramatically new capabilities. Add to this the fact that other aspects of hardware performance are barely improving at all (e.g. disk latency) and you have plenty of reasons to believe that the applications party was over.

With software not showing much in the way of functional improvements and hardware gains slowing, it is not surprising that some people are willing to declare the end of applications. It also explains why the guidance to architects is to focus on reducing cost and improving security. Why would anyone think otherwise?

I suspect by now a good number of readers are more than anxious to point out that scripting languages, RSS feeds, mash-ups, wikis and so forth are, in fact, the new applications, but I would beg to differ. While most of the current Web technologies provide improvements in the way applications are built and information is shared, they do not represent fundamentally new uses or changes in the nature of the man-machine interface. If we are going to breakthrough to the next level of computing applications, we have to attack the problem at a deeper level and apply dramatically greater amounts of computing power than we have to date.

Just how I see us getting there is the topic for next time. Your thoughts and suggestions are, of course, most welcome. We’ve been on this plateau for too long a time already. I’m less concerned about how we get off of it than I am about how soon we do it.
 

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Justin Rattner is an Intel Senior Fellow and director of Intel's Corporate Technology Group. He also serves as the corporation's chief technology officer (CTO). He is responsible for leading Intel's microprocessor, communications and systems technology labs and Intel Research. Rattner joined Intel in 1973. He was named its first Principal Engineer in 1979 and its fourth Intel Fellow in 1988. Prior to joining Intel, Rattner held positions with Hewlett-Packard Company and Xerox Corporation. He received bachelor's and master's degrees from Cornell University in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science in 1970 and 1972, respectively.

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Culture, not science.
warty bliggens 20th Feb 2007
All this talk of hardware, software, etc.... to build the next "killer" app. Something new and unknown. Real changes in applications will come from changes in culture. An example - collaborative apps (P2P for example), although really based on old ideas can be seen to have come from the DODs need for more efficient communications. They looked at a lot of different ideas, and eventually we got the WWW, and the ability to communicate, and this eventually allowed the more complex communications such as p2p apps. The need for this was cultural (ie.. the need for a more efficient form of communications). So what is required is another paradigm shift driven by some segment of society requiring something that the existing technology can be adapted to produce. Creating the technology doesn't create new apps. Apps are created for humans and in response to human needs.
hmmm. I think that what most of the posters on this board are really discussing is "The structure of a scientific revolution" as applied to application development happy
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it is abominations.
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You'd think we'd learn by now...
jabancroft 10th Aug 2006
You'd think we'd have learned by now that we're not good enough at predicting the future to be able to make sweeping "limiting" statements like this. Just like Bill Gates said that no one would ever need more than 640K of RAM, and the ones you've mentioned.

Seems like anyone who makes a statement like that is just trying to stir up controversy and discussion (not a bad thing!), or is truly delusional. Or maybe we've finally found someone who can accurately predict the future! happy

Great post, Justin. Would love to see them more often!
Why all that costly support of techs who do more to make end-users, who otherwise wouldn't know what to go do with themselves, is just a waste of money. Get rid of the techs and most of the users still wouldn't know what to do; even something so dumbed down as a computer that a toddler could use it. (Judging by XP and Vista's interfaces, a toddler must've designed the GUI's appearance too...)

Which is a pity; a tech does far more on the people-level than he'd do on a technical level.

But, we're not people. We're organic machines; annoying costs that take away from that bottom line and nothing more.

Oh well.
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A clarification
HypnoToad 10th Aug 2006
Without techs, the end-users would have a far more difficult time getting to a productive level when compared to having techs around.

We are useful. But there's far more to life than the upfront sticker price. Only idiots go that route.
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That's very funny....
geek4hire_z 10th Aug 2006
Sounds like the comments I was forced to listen to at a Java One conference about 4 years ago. I was in an elevator and some CTO wanna be/wacko tried to tell me..."All the problems have been solved. Its now just a matter of...."

Fortunately I was able to ignore the rest of his conversation by thinking of something more pleasant...like an audit from the IRS...or perhaps it was oral surgery without pain killers.
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Singing the Body Electric
Harry Bardal 10th Aug 2006
We are at a threshold. The killer app is dead. The mildly
sarcastic app is dying. We are being force fed bloatware and
slapped for piracy. We are resentful when technology is intrusive
and resentful when it fails to meet our expectations. So how is it
that the future has never been brighter?

Computers have in the past been sold to analog consumers. The
guileless were dazzled by shelves stocked with a myriad of
software. They were sold a new fangled modern convenience.
They were also sold abundance itself. The days of goldrushware
are over. Computers are now sold to consumers who use
computers. We are jaded and exhausted by choice. We look for
refinement, we look to participate. We choose authorship over
consumption.

We had presumed to be the architects of the computer. We
designed hardware and software and marketed it as a clever
invention. Fast forward to the present... computers now design
us. We are acting under their influence, our expectations have
been created by them. Our lives patterned around them. In a
very short period of time, we have evolved. As computer tech
permeates more aspects of our lives, we are encouraged to
participate. Mashups, Network effects, 1467 myspace friends.
We live increasingly in our minds. Enter the new hybridized killer
application, it's called "human being", and it's still in beta.
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Thinking inside the box
TonyMcS 10th Aug 2006
Advancing age has some advantages as you watch another moron make another statement that is doomed to be false.

I remember computer people frowning at word processor apps - they'll never catch on. Scammers telling us thin clients would replace the desktop (Hi Murph ;-)), but the best one is the death of programming, that's been replayed at least 3 times over the years.

The problem in trying to make predictions about the future is that you can't get there from here. All your predictions are based on today's tech and their particular directions and while it's fun to speculate, the future will be stranger than you imagine.

I don't see any thought controlled 3D holographic apps yet, personal AI, recombinant viruses storing data in your brain, synthetic wetware, for god's sake doesn't that moron read science fiction?

wink
Aiken and Olsen's statments look stupid now, but I bet they did just as much thinking about their statements as you have about yours. And they probably could write a document just as long as your article that would support their statements, and sound just as logical.

If you think it's the end of applications, then go to a hospital has just switched from paper records to electronic records. Tell them that the application they're using is as good as it's going to get, there isn't any more area for innovation. They will either be scared or laugh. Scared because they're thinking "I'm left with this POS forever?" or laughing because they are smart enough to know how much more improvement there is left to go.

Applications like these are just getting started. (Maybe you have a point when it comes to consumer applications--there's only so much more that can be done to Office.)
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Elaboration vs invention
Anton Philidor 10th Aug 2006
An application can be made more useful and efficient. That's what I mean by elaboration. But a spreadsheet will remain a spreadsheet no matter how much more responsive to user needs it becomes.

An invention is a new function as essential as a spreadsheet, something with demonstrable effect that the computer does not yet do.

Let me speculate. New functionaliy will follow a new version of hardware. And that hardware will not have less functionality than a current desktop, but significantly more.

The example of biological computing someone else gave already, referring to science fiction, is a not entirely far-fetched example.

The hardware must find a new way to work of which software can take advantage. Software can do only what hardware permits it to do.


Imagine what new software functionality will be available when you can see the Windows flag wave even before you open your eyes in the morning.

Sorry. wink Couldn't resist.
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Not in my household Anton!
Linux User 147560 10th Aug 2006
"Imagine what new software functionality will be available when you can see the Windows flag wave even before you open your eyes in the morning."

I see penguins when I open my eyes! I have them on my desk around my PC's and severs. devil
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Um... that's not what he said
TJGeezer 11th Aug 2006
He didn't agree that it's the end of applications. He just said it'll take more computing power than we've applied so far to break through to a new level of application. If you apply significantly more computing power to the existing hospital functions you mention, many of which though not all are database-related, you'll get what someone called elaboration, not new applications. But he does see new applications coming: "I?m less concerned about how we get off of [the current plateau] than I am about how soon we do it."
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Nothing new under the sun.
dave.leigh@... 21st Aug 2006
Your example of hospitals actually scores a point for the other side, PB_z. In 1992 I was writing and selling electronic medical records software. That included imaging and all forms of statistics, clinical records and S.O.A.P. records. You couldn't sell it then for love or money... physicians loved their paper files. And I moved on to other venues rightly convinced that they had no vision.

Now, 14 YEARS later, just because these people are finally adopting solutions that were invented long before doesn't mean that the solutions are new. Adoption isn't invention. What a marriage! They had no vision of the future; you have no vision of the past. There may be new classes of apps on the horizon, but this most assuredly isn't one of them.
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The End of Applications
rcmotts 11th Aug 2006
So who/what are we building Applications for ?
How fast can 'you' process and respond to the data you receive ? Our software evolves slowly because WE are currently the show-stopper. But hold on to your hat, because in the blink of an eye (from a historical perspective), you will not be 'you' at all, and the statement that the 'end of applications' is imminent will have been the matra of a Australipithicine.
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you are correct sir!
jdzil 11th Aug 2006
One slight exception,

Australopithecine...use the 'o' version!

I'm not one to talk, for sometimes I feel the urge to say "this is it!" or "that won't be beat!"...

Some advice:
Take a weekend off and go chat with the ederly. You laugh but ask them what they thought we'd run out of...or when the end of this or that would occur.

My Great Granpa Mills (R.I.P) "Juni, I remember when one of those planes flew folks over my property."
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Applications
Peter Cowling 11th Aug 2006
Our capability to design improved applications could come from any of the following sources:

1. A breakthrough in the field of mathematics that became an applicable addition to computation theory.

2. A breakthrough in physics, biology, or chemicals (roughly in that order).

3. Refinements to existing computer science, programming techniques, and networking capabilities (again roughly in that order).

The hardest problems, and most beneficial solutions lie in the first category; the most likely and exploitable opportunities lie in the third category.

Economic theories strongly point to an extended period of consolidation (and genuine value extraction) from IT. This will not be an end to IT applications - it will actually be the era in which they provide start to provide high net benefits. It seems likely that applications will do by being around in higher numbers, with each completing an increasingly more specific role (or job). There is a great deal for the end user to be positive about here ? although those who are less than keen to share their lives with technology will have little to cheer about to be sure.

Getting from the present plateau (to the next!) will be dependent on the emergence of a whole new type of technology. This is already happening, through the research being completed in cat. 2 areas. Unless we have major philosophical objections, we will absolutely continue to develop new types of application. Progress will continue to occur in a relatively orderly, cyclical fashion; our only ?worm-hole? is an advance in category 1, although our best bet may well be to use one set of advances in pursuit of the other.
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0. Analysis Methodologies
Erik Engbrecht 22nd Aug 2006
It seems to me that the chief barrier to innovation in software applications is that all of the "easy" problems have already been "solved."

By "easy" I mean applications that either are (1) algorithmically simplistic enough for business domain experts to solve, or (2) that have simplistic enough problem domains for computer scientists to solve.

All the remaining problems have too complex of domains to be solved in a rigorous manner by domain experts (because of insufficient mathematics/computer science knowledge) and to subtle to be solved by computer scientists (because of insufficient domain knowledge).

Futhermore, the problem is worsened by "modern technology." Not only does the computer scientist have extreme difficulty communicating with the domain expert, but now our web of component and frameworks and other pieces of infrastructure are so complicated that they are problem domain unto themselves. As a result, even if the computer scientist manages to understand the problem domain well enough to solve it, he's lucky if he can find a software developer who even understands elementary calculus, much less more advanced computational mathematics.

So, given that it's too hard to solve any new problems, and that the existing solutions to old problems are really both terrible and expensive, business focus on reducing cost and mild functional improvements.

Futhermore, even when someone does manage to solve an interesting problem, it ends up being a work of genious that no one understands and therefore is extremely difficult to monetize.
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also perhaps remove the human
stevey_d 21st Nov 2006
I wonder if you ran genetic algorithms to solve engineering problems, that this could come up with solutions outside of the box (the box being the collective consciousness of humans).

For example, define your inputs one side, outputs the other side, run Genetic Algorithms to get minimum gates, maximum speed.
It would be tough or impossible to understand the solution, but I think we should make more use of this kind of technology.
You could do the same with problem solving software. Sure you couldn't predict where it would fail, but you can't really do that with human software anyway.
The difference would be for GA produced software, you'd only ever write the specification, no code.
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Shared thoughts
No_Ax_to_Grind 11th Aug 2006
The biggest draw back to the future of both applications and hardware I see is legacy support. We are basically building the same PC we were say 10 years ago. Oh to be sure the pieces are faster, but it's still the same machine. The obvious result of this is the applications that work well on them have stagnated.

If we let out imaginations run wild, limited only to existing and available hardware, and said wipe the slate clean and design a PC you can be absolutely certain of two things, it would be faster by several magnitudes, and would be simpler to use.

Yes it made sense to have different subsystems when the PC was first concieved, but I say that is no longer the case today. There is no reason a mother board populated by Cell CPUs (with space for more when needed) can't handle everything today. No video cards, no sound cards, no drive controlers, no port controlers, no seperate convoluted memory controlers, in fact none of the silliness we have come to know and hate. Of course there is no reason to make incremental jumps in bit operation. Just move directly to 256 bit CPUs and have done with it.

While AMD and Intel muck about trying to add video to the CPU, a paradigm shift in thinking may just make the effort moot.
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Buyers and sellers
Anton Philidor 11th Aug 2006
Let's say that you ordered a company to "wipe the slate clean and design a pc".

The first thing a sensible company would do is find out what users wanted. They're the buyers.

Cheap. Efficient. Durable. Preserves investment in software.

This next one is more questionable, I suppose. Runs certain existing applications better. Hardware adapted to the way specific software works.

My conclusion is that hardware companies follow directions set by engineers. They may already be making products better than customers want.

I still think that a cheap chip pressing no boundaries but reliable would be a money-maker for years to come.

Has engineering not gone far enough, or too far?
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Yes and no...
No_Ax_to_Grind 12th Aug 2006
One could point out there was no great buyer demand for the first PCs. It was only when they were shown the possibilities they became popular.

I do believe that we have reached a point to again start with a clean slate and turn the engineers loose.
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Knowing demand.
Anton Philidor 12th Aug 2006
In a recent interview on NPR, an Apple II seller turned journalist reminisced about a discussion at a sales prospect.

The person in charge of IT announced that the company would never purchase a pc while he held his position. His interlocutor pulled out information showing there were at that moment 1,000 - or was it 2,000 - Apple II's running in that building at that moment.

The devices were doing what the buyers wanted, and the users were showing a very constructive attiude toward IT.

So it's important to know who's giving the evidence when you say "there was no great buyer demand for the first PCs."

The users knew the possibilities they wanted, and were obtaining them.

And perhaps the engineers, like IT, are not the best experts on what those possibilities are.
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Rather it's the end of this market
Mikael_66 13th Aug 2006
The reason there's no new applications in sight is because the market base is limited in scope.
It's all about the office guys, and that's the end of that.
Most of the imagination is geared toward imitationg Microsofts success in that area.
Apple had a sudden and unexpected success with iTunes because Apple in general is more media oriented, and really doesn't attract any boring tie-wearing office guys.
The cellphones started out as something for business people yet again, and had a very limited success, until they where redesigned for the general public and young females specifically, and boom, they went ballistical on the market.
There are an enormous amount of new apps just waiting to happen, but they need to be created for a completely new breed of people.

The 'new' part is also something to be debated.
Someone said all usefull inventions had been invented already, and that all new inventions are reimaginations of the old ones for a new audience.
- I think that sums it up!
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Bringing on more horsepower is not going to solve the real problem that the current way applications are built do not reflect the way business works. This is what is holding back the next step in improving functionality and agility that business needs ? now!
Go back to basics ? business works by People undertaking their daily work/tasks and are the creator of source information. This human interaction is key to the next step. Actually the human interface is pretty good already but always room for improvement just as more ?power? always helps but to suggest this will take application development to a new stage is flawed thinking.
We are now in the 21st century and still hard coding business applications when in reality business fundamentals never have or will change it is the technology led communications and hardware that are constantly pushing at the edge as new technologies evolve. If we can separate the business logic from delivery then that quantum step is possible ? not just in bringing new levels of agility in software to change as the business changes but being able to exactly replicate human flexibility in the application. This does bring a new capability to application software. I call it Task Orientated Application and it works?..
Justin needs to stand back and reflect that what he is addressing is the delivery of the solutions. This is where IT Architects do have such an important role but business fundamentals are for the business. In fact there has never been a greater need for business to see people connected to applications in more relevant way to improve efficiency and reduce risk of more CEOs going to jail!
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My Response
Justin James 18th Aug 2006
Mr. Rattner -

I have posted a response to this article at TechRepublic. The URL is:
http://tinyurl.com/llnhy

I respect and appreciate your opinion and analyse, but your viewpoint is that of a hardware vendor, not a software developer or even an end user. At the end of the day, if Intel is doing their job right, the customer does not know a thing about their hardware, because it "just works." Indeed, that was the whole point of the "Intel Inside" comapign, as per Intel's official history of that (http://www.intel.com/pressroom/intel_inside.htm): buy Intel processors so everything works right.

You hardware guys keep pushing multi-cores, SMP, etc. but do not help educate the developers at all about how to actually program to take advantage of these things. Yes, you may assist or provide information to the ******** C folks out there, but most application development is now occuring in Java, .Net, PHP, and other higher level languages. If Intel does not help us inderstand how to write code to take advantage (or at the very least, write code that won't actually be slower) of the new architechture, your CPUs will look bad and our code will run lousy.

Thanks to your push of multi-cores, single thread performance is declining on some CPUs, and barely holding steady on others. Too bad most apps are single threaded in the main processing logic! So multi-core really does not help the average piece of software without the hardware vendors helping to educate the developers. It find it rather unfortunate that (to use .Net as an example), Microsoft is a better source of handling multi-cores/multi-CPUs than Intel. All I can say is that AMD is no better.

The hardware guys love to push their wares, and assist high profile projects like OS's, databases, and games, meanwhile 99% of the apps out there are written by smaller shops who are completely ignored by the hardware guys.

J.Ja
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Are you going to answer the main question?
dave.leigh@... 21st Aug 2006
There will be new applications, certainly, but your points so far are on the mark, Justin.

We really haven't seen anything new IN KIND for a very, very long time. I'm posting this message on a glorified BBS, not conceptually different from the BBS I ran "back in the day". Your current office suite does nothing conceptually different from the collection of software we were running in the 80's (WordStar, VisiCalc, dBASE, Harvard Graphics (I've already discussed with Marc Orchant how OneNote doesn't give you anything conceptually new.)) In the mid-1980s we were using "thought processors" that aren't conceptually different from today's MindMap software. Hell, even the venerable Pine email program still works. VoIP is probably the most recent "new" app I've seen in years. That hits the big stuff and the rest is mostly niche.

The new crop of apps are generally different in degree, not in kind. Any improvements are covered with a layer of cosmetics that often obscures the functionality; which is why it takes roughly the same amount of time to boot my current beast as it did to boot my first PC. I laugh when there's serious discussion about "skinning" an app. Who cares if it actually does anything? Can you skin it? When the conversation degenerates into that kind of vapid nothingness you just have to know you've jumped the shark.

What we're seeing now aren't new solutions. We are seeing the wholesale adoption and dissemination of the same ol' stuff. The "social web" is just the plain old Web. The fact that it's fashionable or has a lower entry threshold doesn't make it suddenly innovative.

In looking at the opening statement of your software speaker ("Since all of the interesting applications have been written...") I see the applicable word as "interesting". He's not saying that all of the applications are written; just that all of the big problems are solved. Disseminating this... stuff... to the public is comparatively uninteresting.

That doesn't mean that the situation won't change. Somebody's going to come up with a new problem or class of problems and that's when apps will become interesting again. But UNTIL THEY DO the speaker's point is valid. So what's the answer to his question? I suspect your answer will revolve around getting over that slowdown in performance increase, but the question has to be asked:

Why IS IT that you guys are still inventing new architectures? Why NOT work on lower-cost hardware and easier to manage systems?
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The two-thread-per-core multicore Xbox360 CPU is similar to ancient Intel Multi-bus multi-cpu systems in my view, as is the multi-cpu cell "processor".
All the individual processor architectures are Von Neuman architectures.
You still see a healthy bit of Harvard architecture around in the microcontroller world, but no totally new architecture.

I don't think that OOE, pipelining, superscalar, speculative, caches, MMUs, or SIMD, VLIW or EPIC are exactly new in any sense of the word.

Asynchronous processors (again not a new idea) could save a lot of silicon, but have proved problematic.

But we shouldn't underestimate the ability for a change in degree to be a change in kind.

Therefore I guess taking OOE etc out of a mainframe and putting it on people's desks has made 3d games, multimedia possible.

The thing I'm watching most at the moment is Microcontrollers. I like the PIC USB range, but more so the ARM range that are really cheap and incedibly powerful, stuffed full of IO capability but taking next to no power. Amazing. Easy to program through JTAG also. (PIC through proprietary serial interface).

I also like the trend towards Graphical programming, especially for PICs at the moment.
This makes the technology more accessible.

RTOS for Microcontrollers is interesting too.
Imagine if you could graphically program by dropping a process onto the "program" window, & hook it up to it's inputs and outputs, this would be cool.
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Why does one bit of software talk poorly to another bit?
I'm sure eliminating data borders is the next level of software.
OK you want me to talk to another database about mechanical components. OK database, give me the BoM for an assembly. Tell me how the parts are connected. For each part give me the 3d structure, material and surface finish.

OK now database, I'm going to tell you about MY parts. (synchronisation bidirectional).

OK now we're done, lets do this every hour forever.

All you need is a common data description and communication language (XML based or not), and a common object model (COM/DCOM/ActiveX/JavaBeans/ORB).
//you could wrap the same system in shims for any kind of object model interface//

Is all this stuff happening already, I just don't know about it?

Or maybe you can buy this stuff now, but it's very very expensive, so only a few major corporations use it all the time to talk to each other, which kind of misses the point.
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Culture, not science.
warty bliggens 20th Feb 2007
All this talk of hardware, software, etc.... to build the next "killer" app. Something new and unknown. Real changes in applications will come from changes in culture. An example - collaborative apps (P2P for example), although really based on old ideas can be seen to have come from the DODs need for more efficient communications. They looked at a lot of different ideas, and eventually we got the WWW, and the ability to communicate, and this eventually allowed the more complex communications such as p2p apps. The need for this was cultural (ie.. the need for a more efficient form of communications). So what is required is another paradigm shift driven by some segment of society requiring something that the existing technology can be adapted to produce. Creating the technology doesn't create new apps. Apps are created for humans and in response to human needs.
hmmm. I think that what most of the posters on this board are really discussing is "The structure of a scientific revolution" as applied to application development happy

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