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A Very Chrome-y Christmas

By | December 21, 2010, 11:13am PST

Summary: The Cr-48 and Google’s Chrome OS makes a great light vacationing computer. But can it and will it replace tens of millions of PCs? I think the answer is yes.

Cr-48 on vacation in Marco Island, Florida

The Google Cr-48 on vacation in Marco Island, Florida

As I type this, I’m sitting on the balcony of my vacation timeshare in Florida overlooking the Gulf of Mexico.

I considered leaving all of my primary computing devices home this Christmas vacation, and seeing if I could “Rough it” with just our Android-based smartphones.

Instead, I decided I would compromise — this vacation, I left my prized iPad and my work laptop PC home, and brought along two unproven traveling companions — a Google Cr-48 Chrome OS-powered notebook and another device which I’ll discuss in a future article.

As it has been widely reported already by ZDNet and other technology news outlets, the Google Cr-48 is a limited-production notebook computer, of which only 60,000 have been produced and which will serve as a technology demonstrator and large beta test of Chrome OS, Google’s 100-percent Cloud-dependent operating system.

Beta testers are invited to apply to join the program, but only a lucky few will be chosen. Only certain members of the press were given access to these systems — as it turns out, I was not one of them and Google has declined my request to put the device through an extensive formal review process, citing availability and high demand for the units.

However, one of my industry colleagues who received the unit to evaluate felt I could do a much better job putting the Cr-48 through its paces than they could, so we met the night before I departed for Florida to share dinner and drinks and to transfer the goods. My wife and I have been using it as my main computing device on vacation ever since.

Chrome OS is little more than a Linux kernel which allows the core services and the hardware drivers of system to function and to support its only “App” and central UI, the Google Chrome 9.0 browser. The Chrome browser in turn acts as a front-end to Google’s services, such as GMail, Google Docs and their Web Store, which allows a multitude of other web-based apps to be plugged into a centralized menu screen.

If you know how to use a web browser, you pretty much already know how to use Chrome OS.

ZDNet Coverage: Google Cr-48 and Chrome OS

While Chrome OS’s source code is Open Source, you can’t easily install the latest Google build of the software on any old x86 hardware yet like you can with a typical Linux distribution such as Ubuntu or Fedora.

It is expected that other vendors are going to pre-load this software on future mobile computing products. This begs the question of whether or not Google is actually going to provide some sort of installable “distribution” for hobbyists and OEMs, or if a 3rd-party is going to take the source code and run with it, such as with the early “Hexxeh” builds that were made available by a UK-based college student this last year.

As it is a pilot program, the Cr-48 is meant to be something of a reference platform for future mass-produced Chrome OS netbook hardware, but to say that the template is set in stone is highly unlikely. There will almost certainly be different variations on screen sizes, battery life and connectivity options for Chrome OS-based products.

Additionally, it would not surprise me to see this platform installed on desktop Thin Clients, such as on devices produced by WYSE and similar manufacturers addressing that vertical market as well as for end-users in the consumer space.

The hardware on the Cr-48 is specifically designed to take advantage of this minimalist approach. The Pegatron-produced device resembles a standard Intel Atom-based netbook computer with a 12″ screen, but that is where the similarities end. For example, the keyboard has been optimized to discard all legacy keys from Windows and even the Mac.

All of the function “F” keys have been eliminated, and replaced with browser action keys, such as Page Back/Forward, Page Reload, Fullscreen toggle and Window toggle. The Caps Lock key has also been eliminated, perhaps as a nod to conventional Internet messaging etiquette.

For mouse navigation, Google has provided an oversized trackpad manufactured by Synaptics (The “Clickpad” ) which can either be lightly tapped to confirm dialog activity or mechanically depressed. There are no mouse buttons, and the “Right-click” function is done by either using “Alt-tap” or “Alt-depress” or actually hooking up a two-button mouse to the notebook’s single USB port. Cursor navigation is provided using arrow directional keys.

In my use of the device, I’ve found that an inexpensive two button optical mouse with scroller (which I purchased from the local Radio Shack down here in Marco Island) goes a long way towards preserving your sanity and vastly improves the overall experience using Chrome OS, particularly if you are used to working with PCs and/or the Chrome browser on Linux or Windows.

[EDIT: Apparently, you can also right-click by tapping or clicking on the Cr-48 trackpad with 2 fingers, side by side, OS X style. It also supports 2-finger scrolling.]

Next: The Browser-only OS Learning Curve »

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Jason Perlow, Sr. Technology Editor at ZDNet, is a technologist with over two decades of experience integrating large heterogeneous multi-vendor computing environments in Fortune 500 companies.

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Jason Perlow, Sr. Technology Editor at ZDNet is a technologist with over two decades of experience with integrating large heterogeneous multi-vendor computing environments in Fortune 500 companies. A long-time computer enthusiast starting the age of 13 with his first Apple ][ personal computer, he began his freelance writing career starting at ZD Sm@rt Reseller in 1996 and has since authored numerous guest columns for ZDNet Enterprise and Ziff-Davis Internet. Jason was previously Senior Technology Editor for Linux Magazine, where he wrote about Open Source issues from 1999 to 2008.

In his spare time, Jason is an avid amateur chef and food writer, where his work reviewing New Jersey restaurants has appeared in The New York Times. He is also the founder of the popular food web site eGullet and blogs about restaurants and cooking at OffTheBroiler.com.

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nail on the head
Ron Bergundy 21st Dec 2010
"and also to prevent end-user tampering of any kind"

I agree. the last thing google wants is for people to be able to change the code and leave goolge out of the loop. imagine replacing google search with something else like bing?! or google apps with someone elses?

no way they want that
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RE: A Very Chrome-y Christmas
30otnix 21st Dec 2010
@cyberspammer2
Actually you change that in the settings menu, just like the Chrome browser.
altruistic and selfless and would NEVER track your search terms in their OS for data mining regardless of what search engine you choose. Just like they would NEVER "accidentally" download gigabytes of data from open wifi points.
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RE: A Very Chrome-y Christmas
lorisinclair 14th Sep
@30otnix You cannot underestimate google, they cover 75% of the market hare.
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RE: A Very Chrome-y Christmas
hfsma 22nd Dec 2010
@cyberspammer2
The fact this author has a timeshare worries me more... how is he supposed to write and article on the beach if there's no internet there to use chrome!
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RE: A Very Chrome-y Christmas
mlbslugger 22nd Dec 2010
@hfsma Touche hfsma. The idea is incipid
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Dude ... give the FUD a break
daboochmeister 22nd Dec 2010
@cyberspammer2 (and @frgough) - Chrome OS is open source itself, and is based on Chromium OS, which is also open source; the code is open, and you (yes, even you) can contribute to it. You can review it and confirm that Google isn't doing anything evil with your data. You can reset the default search engine in the Settings menu (gee, guess the evil overlord missed that hard-to-find backdoor). You can jailbreak the notebook (instructions for doing so are provided -- by a Google employee, http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/developer-information-for-chrome-os-devices/cr-48-chrome-notebook-developer-information), dual boot another OS (instructions provided - again, by a Google employee, http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/developer-information-for-chrome-os-devices/cr-48-chrome-notebook-developer-information/how-to-boot-ubuntu-on-a-cr-48), wipe it and install a different OS, etc. You can build Chromium OS yourself, and install THAT. That would be impolite if you signed up for a Cr-48, since you agreed to test Chrome OS on it, but they're not going to slap your wrist or restrict your Google account or something (gee, if MS or Apple created a notebook, do you think it'd be that open? Guess we already know for Apple, and ... forget it, we already know for MS too, even though it's not actually a product). And the community provides instructions for doing so ... on the development sites hosted on Google's infrastructure, and with info from Google employees, who've done it themselves.

You can access Bing on it or set Bing as the default search engine, you can run any app that support HTML5, you can jailbreak it and reset everything -- and then revert back to Chrome OS in one step, with no repercussions -- or not.

How much convincing do you need that Google isn't the evil company you've allowed yourself to be reality-distorted into believing? They collect data on you -- oooh, that's an internet first!
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RE: A Very Chrome-y Christmas
2drinks 22nd Dec 2010
@daboochmeister Google isn't evil in the diabolical, scheming Microsoft sense. However, they are evil in that they simply don't care about the individual customer.

As someone that's used their Adwords product as a cornerstone of my software business, I experienced the full fury of Google indifference when my account was mistakenly shutoff for months. While I had to layoff contractors and dip into savings due to the lost business, I discovered that there was simply no one at Google whose job it was to talk to customers like me. I spent over a million dollars a year advertising with them and 70% of my sales came through that channel, yet when they made a mistake there was no one I could even email or call. It took months to finally get my account reinstated and it finally took some backchannel maneuvering via an acquaintance who knew someone at Google who was willing to help me out and contact the Adwords folks for me. Apart from my lost earnings, I had two contractors I had to turn out on the street because I simply couldn't afford to pay them. All because Google is unwilling to establish a customer support organization for the most critical part of their business. If they didn't have a monopoly on web-based advertising, I would never conduct another transaction with this company, but there simply is no choice. If you want to sell your goods online, you must deal with Google. Period. That to me is the greatest evil of all and Microsoft's monopolistic behavior pales in comparison.

There are plenty of other people who have had this same experience. Google may not be evil, but their total indifference towards their customers and their monopoly in online advertising causes great evil.
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RE: A Very Chrome-y Christmas
FuzzyIce 22nd Dec 2010
@daboochmeister That's right... agree one hundred percent. The only way for people to protect their data is not to have a physical address, no internet accounts, no driver's license, no medical records... We live in a world of connected beings and this iteration is what is called civilization. Some people appreciates the wonders of technology but don't understand they come to a price... In 1900 somebody foreseen that we would be living up to 50 years old by 2000... Well, we live more than that, but that's not free... it cost us much more than medicine and health care cost back one century ago... Same with technology. My first computer had a Zilog chip and 2KB memory and nobody knew about my web site preference back in 1979... Today I have docs in my Google account and when I sign in, Google shows advertising that somehow related to my e-mails or docs... I just ignore them and take care of my business... I just don't care if they send me adds with database related things (my profession as DBA) or sci-fy or physics or motorcycles or else... Do this people think I'm gonna click on anything that a web page shows me? I'd prefer living in a world with Google instead of one without it.
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daboochmeister 29th Dec 2010
@2drinks - ugh, that's terrible. I've only dealt directly with Google in one area, a couple years ago, and while they were pretty disorganized (federal unit getting off the ground), and that sometimes led to hiccups we had to be very proactive to overcome, there weren't any ethical lapses in terms of caring about us as a customer. I strongly doubt it was deliberate, of course, but you're right that it becomes an ethical issue if they KNOW they're providing bad service, and aren't doing anything to try to fix it. Hopefully they're fixing that unit, and applying the lessons-learned to others.
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Chrome OS shares your info with goverments
Gabriel Hernandez 27th Dec 2010
@cyberspammer2 Google Chrome OS will link your private info (email password, Wi-Fi MAC Address, username) collected illegally by Google Street view in the past two years in more than 30 countries. The cyber police in these countries have unrestricted access to any of the content you have on any Google service: For example, your youtube videos or your complete channel can be shut down by any government of the world. Do you know why you get spam advertising links everytime you open a gmail message? Because all your data is open to advertisers, Google is invading the consumers private life and I won't tolerate that, for that reason I don't use Google products any more.
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@Ron Bergundy

"The Cr-48 and Google???s Chrome learn violin online OS makes a great light vacationing computer. But can it and will it replace tens of millions of PCs? I think the answer is yes."

At the current state, I'll have glaucoma eyes drops to disagree with you. I love Google - nothing there! But I doubt their computer will be an instant success. But we have to remember that neither was Apple nor Microsoft when they first started out!
People seems to want that everything bright eyes drops that gets started up nowaday becomes an instant success. But it's not always like that!
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A few things.
30otnix 21st Dec 2010
Right click can also be accomplished by a two finger "tap" or "depress".

If you enable the the advanced file system from the "about:flags" settings. You get a little more control over the local file system such as creating your own directories, navigating between them, and utilizing local media (view pictures in a slide show tool, listen to music or watch videos...The media player can be enabled from the about:flags settings as well.) Viewing these directories and files can be done via ctrl-o.

As for the upload functions I have noticed that it appears to depend on the application as to what upload dialog you get. I'm not sure, but it seems that if you access the file system from a flash app, you get the Linux file system. If its an html app it displays the Chrome file system similar to when accessing it via crtl-o.

I agree that the IM tool provided "Talk", is limited. I'm not clear on why Google has never seen fit to include more services in their Talk app.

Thanks for the write up, this is one of the better and more honest reviews I've seen.
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RE: A Very Chrome-y Christmas
jperlow 21st Dec 2010
@30otnix Thanks I amended that information regarding the right-click and the file system support in the article.
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2drinks 22nd Dec 2010
@jperlow I guess I just don't see the benefit to Chrome OS over Android or iOS. Neither of those OSes seems to require much more substantial hardware to run, Android at least is free like beer, and they both give the added benefit of apps if I want them. And of course they both have browsers as well. I think manufacturers and retailers may have an uphill slog selling this against the bevy of Android-based tablets and laptops that are in the pipes.
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Interesting Conclusion
nhudd 21st Dec 2010
I find it interesting that nearly all of your comments are of a somewhat critical nature (and you detail quite a list) yet you see this as the future of computing. I must assume that it is the "ideal" of web OS computing that you see as the future and not the Chrome OS per say.
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jperlow 21st Dec 2010
@nhudd I think we have to view this as very early Cloud-based computing technology and it is likely what we will end up with may look a bit different than what we are being presented with now. But yes, despite the issues, I see this as moving us forward towards Cloud-based web computing.
decades now. And it has never happened. For one simple reason. People are all too familiar with the internet being down for whatever reason. On a PC, it's an inconvenience. In Chrome OS, it's a disaster.
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tonymcs@... 21st Dec 2010
@jperlow

The thin client scam. Every few years it suckers a few people into yet another proprietary pond. This has been going on since we first managed to break away from the high priests and their mainframes and they've been trying to get us back to terminals ever since.

Oooops watch out, your WiFI is going down, time to spend a fortune on 3G - what no reception? Then start looking for some dead tree implements, because your beloved device has just become a boat anchor.

Oh and where the hell are the games? Browser-based games? Spare me.
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RE: Thin client scam
fatman65535 22nd Dec 2010
@tonymcs

While proprietary pond works, for me, these are more suitable alternatives:

quicksand pit , or
cesspool slime.
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Are you sure?
Cylon Centurion 22nd Dec 2010
@jperlow

You want to hand your *entire* hard drive over to a 3d party and be solely dependent on them? Especially, with a company as shady as Google?

Spare me. Thin clients/terminals are dead, and will stay dead. There is nothing wrong with localized resources, and there sure as hell isn't anyway I'd give up local storage. There just isn't any reason to do so.
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Well I'm sure
search & destroy 22nd Dec 2010
Spare me. Thin clients/terminals are dead, and will stay dead. There is nothing wrong with localized resources, and there sure as hell isn't anyway I'd give up local storage. There just isn't any reason to do so.

Not in enterprise they aren't. Not that Google would even touch our thin clients that are on an internal, localized network.
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madjr 26th Dec 2010
"Spare me. Thin clients/terminals are dead, and will stay dead. There is nothing wrong with localized resources, and there sure as hell isn't anyway I'd give up local storage. There just isn't any reason to do so."

@Cylon Centurion 0005, You will be able to keep your porn on an usb stick you know.
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RE: A Very Chrome-y Christmas
lane@... 22nd Dec 2010
@nhudd
Thanks for saying it. Replacing tens of millions of pc's? that's weighty.
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RE: A Very Chrome-y Christmas
Rinzai 24th Dec 2010
@nhudd "Per se." "Per se." "Per se." Repeat it with me. "Per se."
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RE: A Very Chrome-y Christmas
keobun 21st Dec 2010
The mouse is tricky unless you go to the "Getting Started with Chrome OS" under the help pages, which details the mouse shortcuts. You say that you move the cursor with the directional keys, that's true when you're typing like any other system, but you can use the trackpad to move the mouse around you know, I think it's unnecessary to use an external mouse. I can understand though when I first tried moving the mouse, I was using more than one hand which indicates to the trackpad that you want to scroll, so it will freeze the mouse position and scroll what ever is hovered/focused if there's nothing to scroll it will just look like it's frozen.

Also there is local storage, for storing anything you might download from the net.

I don't think the goal of the project is to package everything one could possibly need in a system, but to explore existing or eminent technologies on the web, perhaps there is a there is a web based IM client out there and we haven't seen it, if not we should make one it's doable and platform independent. I don't know about you but having to play with skype beta for linux has only been a pain, and works on and off on different distros and different systems. That's an important highlight to me.
be proxied through google? Wow and double wow....
Please devote the last several consequtive days of your vacation to no-connection use and let us know how well you think it works in that scenario as well...
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jperlow 21st Dec 2010
@Johnny Vegas Google has the horsepower in its datacenters to compress data streams, if not just the JPG and other media files going across "thin" connections. It doesn't cost them a bunch to do this versus what the ISPs will have to deal with on their 3G and 4G backhauls and how much they will have to pass this on to the end-user in terms of actual costs. The alternative is nobody will be able to afford to do this without effective bandwidth management.
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daboochmeister 22nd Dec 2010
@jperlow - or navigate to mobile-tuned sites. It's a beta, but a "mobile-mode" (or way to set the UA info so that it's properly perceived as a mobile device, when using 3G) might be a useful addition.

Are there Chrome extensions to e.g. block d/l images above a certain size only on demand? Certainly, only d/l'ing flash on demand will help, and adblock/adblock+ can do that.
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prof123 28th Dec 2010
@Johnny Vegas

You obviously don't know how most users use their computers. If there is no internet connection, most people do not bother even turning the PC on... What are they going to do? 80% of users do not need a hard drive, they do not edit/create documents...
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RE: A Very Chrome-y Christmas
Gis Bun 21st Dec 2010
So how many of those netbooks were sent to the authors of this rubbish?

You think the typical person running Windows will be happy switching to a completely different OS? They'll b?tch about the fact that some/most of their favorite programs aren't available. Or some printer isn't compatible with it.

Remember when netbooks came out in 2008? A study then said of those netbooks returned, 80% was because Linux was on it [most of the remaining 20% was becausde of the lack of horse power or screen size]. So what is the difference 3 years later? Chrome is nothing but another Linux distro.

There is NOTHINg in this article which tells me that Chrome will do anything better than the other Linux distros [1% of the total OS market share] other than the name "Google" will be part of the name.

Chrome could turn into one of the biggest computer disasters of 2011.
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daikon 21st Dec 2010
@Gis Bun
It also could be the best thing to happen in 2011.
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atous1@... Updated - 22nd Dec 2010
@daikon
Chrome OS is not one of the biggest computer disasters of 2011. It has the potential to be ranked in the top-3 computer disasters of all time, right up there with the PC Jr. and C/PM-86...

When can we expect to have the technology so my personal and confidential files out there in the Cloud can be 99.9999999999% (if not 100%) safe and confidential for my-eyes-only? Anyone wants to guesstimate?

If and when that happens, then, maybe, people would be willing to take a serious look at a 100% Cloud-based OS with 100% Cloud-base storage. It's crazy and its not going to going to be successful anytime soon.

On top of that, Google decides to launch Chrome OS in the midst of the WikiLeaks fiasco... brilliant!

I think Jason is misleading us with this article saying that he's in Marco Island in Florida. He's probably some 650 miles to the southeast in Jamaica, enjoying some Rastafarian 'nature' and writing about the Chrome OS wrapped in oneiric vapors...
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RE: A Very Chrome-y Christmas
DannyO_0x98 22nd Dec 2010
@Gis Bun
Your first question is answered explicitly in the article. None. Google didn't consider him Top-60,000. He borrowed his kit from a colleague.

As to the rest, why do you care? It succeeds, it doesn't, the world turns, something new comes along.

I would suggest there's some flaws in your world-view. What operating system runs the microwaves? What operating systems power our web searches? What operating system runs your cellphone? Your wi-fi router? Your printer?

The typical Windows user is using other operating systems all the time. The point is, those services and devices have submerged their operating systems below the interface and no user has to care.

Maybe making the operating system disappear works for a portable personal computer and maybe not. So it's green eggs and ham to you, there are billions of other people. Even Microsoft has been slowly lowering c:\ deeper into the interface, so they get what's going on.
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hfsma 22nd Dec 2010
@Gis Bun
Agree, chrome netbook or ipad, hmmmm hard choice...
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Go with the iPad . . .
JLHenry 22nd Dec 2010
@hfsma

At least with the iPad, you can actually USE the device if you don't have any internet signal of any kind . . .
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gregflet 22nd Dec 2010
@Gis Bun
Hi Gis Bun, I think you may be missing the point. Chrome OS is not about weening people off Microsoft onto another OS and I don't think you will understand the benefit of Chrome OS or cloud based computing if you adopt that as a stand point.

Anybody already using Google Apps will have a different perspective on what Chrome OS is and can be; its primary goal is not to replace Windows or to replace all Windows Apps. There are plenty of applications that will not be replaced short term with cloud based alternatives, CAD/CAM applications, or home movie editing for example. To me this isn't a reason to label Chrome OS a disaster.
Best Wishes for the Holiday Season and a Happy New Year to you.
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daboochmeister 22nd Dec 2010
@Gis Bun - the bootloading is kept on custom firmware that has a public key burned in, the security code is protected by the boot process, the system has been adjusted to boot from ROM, with protections to prevent changes, they use chroot nosuid jails for apps, they use mandatory access controls in very interesting ways, all the d/l'ed user data is kept on a separate, encrypted partition, the system data is kept on a separate partition and uses signatures to ensure that no tampering has occurred (or if it has, the OS can be securely d/l'ed on next access to recover) ... there's a TON of innovation involved. Yes, they started from a standard Linux experience, and much (but not all) of what they're doing can be accomplished through careful configuration of an existing Linux machine.

If it's a disaster, it'll be more because of c/overt resistance from entrenched interests that are threatened by it. Oh, and spammers spreading FUD. Imho happy
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I will never
cc2001 22nd Dec 2010
give in to the darkside of the web! No Google for me and my household!! LOL
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Thin client = fail
Vorpaladin 22nd Dec 2010
I like google and chrome, but no way I will ever want a device that is DOA without an Internet connection. If I can't play EVE Online on it, it's not worthy to be my primary or even secondary computer. I wouldn't even want my phone to be a pure thin client. I should at least be able to play chess against the thing if there's no signal!
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Another IM option
russdwright@... 22nd Dec 2010
You could always setup an account on Nimbuzz. It is an all-in-one IM system and has both web-based *and* mobile clients. I believe Trillian has a similar system, as well.
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pivkovic 22nd Dec 2010
Beware the Google snake oil salesman who claims to cure all ills.

Will a Google branded thin client find a niche in tomorrow's computing enviroment? Sure. Will it replace all the different types of computers? No.

It strikes me as funny the we whent from dumb terminals connected to a mainframe to a distributed enviroment. Now we give that up to not only go back to dumb terminals but connect them to someone elses "mainframe" so they control our data?
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ItsTheBottomLine Updated - 22nd Dec 2010
The future yes...the problem are three things that will frustrate a lot of people and items we have seen trying to put our sales people on the web...globally.

1 - The connectivity. Infrastructure is not as robust in this country. And having a product tied to a 3rd parties performance. The tool - incorrectly - would be blamed for the poor performance. We see that now with on-line applications for our sales people. If their connection are bad or slow or slow down they blame the tool and call the help desk. The next day it's fine.
Bandwidth costs and the direction they are heading there could put a huge cost burden on this...that's still up for debate, that would limit this to light data (i.e. no photo's or graphics) but #2 is now more relevant
2 - The local vs. putting everything in the web. A disconnected/connected solution would be awesome
3 - Web applications certain ones are needing some functionality updates. However, if they do not know any better then it would be perfect for them, but we use Google Docs here. The acceptance has been poor to luke warm. They just /are not there yet...

Future yes - when in the future is the bigger question.
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catshow 22nd Dec 2010
With mobile service providers capping usage limits, it won't take long to eat up all your bandwidth with one of these things.
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Jason,
You walked right past my fundamental issue with the Chrome-OS approach to life. Now MY data is sitting somewhere that I have no control over. I can't even tell if someone is looking at or data mining my personal stuff.

What are you thinking? What kind of cool-aid are you drinking? I don't trust Google or our government. Net privacy is a huge issue and handing it all over to Google is not an acceptable choice ... at least not for me. Not on a personal or corporate level ... That is the failure of cloud services.
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johnywhy@... Updated - 22nd Dec 2010
@padapa Which is why this platform might be a good choice for corporate rollouts, rather personal usage. In a corporate environment, all your apps and data could be hosted by your corporation, not by the internet.

padapa, keep in mind your data is not hosted by google or the government. it's hosted by whatever cloud-services you choose to subscribe to.
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padapa 22nd Dec 2010
@johnywhy@...

I get the corporate model, but Chrome-OS is linked directly to Google and not to your corporation. The data store is in Google's database, just like your gmail account.

Even if you connect it to a corporate cloud service, I bet it goes through Google to get there, just like gmail and every other "free" service Google offers.
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RE: A Very Chrome-y Christmas
Zc456 22nd Dec 2010
@padapa
It's open source. Chances are corporate users will spin their own versions of Chrome OS that link to their corporate accounts, and not Google's. It's that simple.
Linux asked that question, and people said Yes! Well, it turns out Linux has barely made a scratch in consumer desktop and laptop market share. I speculate the same will come to pass for Chrome. It'll find its tiny niche, but it won't become the next standard.
@nhudd: I agree. Solely, based on the article and few additional comments. This might be the future, but not in this form or now. Three things absolutely have to happened for this to be more then a "toy":
- WiFi full coverage and/or cell prices have to come down dramatically and bandwidth increase in folds. (4G won't cut it)
- Applications paradigm shift hasn't happened yet, it is still a novelty in a business place.
- Device itself is not ready. Removing F buttons is not enough. This should not be introduced to the market as an alternative to windows, osx or linux, because, it is not. It has to be a different medium all together. Maybe tab should be its target.

Just my 2c
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