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Apple iPad Adopters: Prepare for Content Punishment

By | March 21, 2010, 2:09pm PDT

Summary: Apple’s “Regional Content Review” clauses for content suppliers may prevent consumers from reading and viewing a large amount of material they’ve already paid for on their new iPads.

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Apple’s “Regional Content Review” clauses for content suppliers may prevent consumers from reading and viewing a large amount of material they’ve already paid for on their new iPads (artwork by Spidermonkey)

A few weeks ago I wrote about whether or not Apple will allow the iPad to be an “Open Market” for content providers other than Apple’s own iBooks.

So I did a bit more investigative research, and found out that the good news is that at least for now, the answer is Yes. The bad news? Sister Steven isn’t going to allow you to consume anything naughty. Bad content supplier, Bad! WHACK! You shall now recite the iPad End-User License Agreement ten times as your penance. Thank you Sister Steven, can I have another?

Click on the “Read the rest of this entry” link below for more.

The Good News, at least if you are a consumer or a provider of digital content that competes with iBooks, is that iBooks will be a separate download for iPad and is not treated as “Core functionality” the same way iTunes is, at least in terms in the way other iPhone applications in the past have been rejected for doing the same thing or playing a similar role as iTunes.

So if you’re a company like Amazon, Stanza, Barnes & Noble, or even Adobe (which potentially could port its Digital Editions Reader) or an Open Source project like Calibre you are in good shape if you want to do a native port to iPad and become a content supplier.

There are several companies that will have iPad-compatible content viewing apps with their own content stores at or closely following the product’s launch. Amazon’s Kindle for iPhone and Lexcycle Stanza Reader will run pretty-much as is in blown-up mode, but it’s a good bet that both will be fully iPad optimized for launch. [UPDATE: Amazon has announced Kindle for Tablets]

Amazon’s primary competition, Barnes & Noble has publicly stated they have an iPad application under development and it will available on or close to launch.

Also Read: Amazon introduces Kindle app for tablet computers

The Bad News? Just because you bought something from one of these content providers and can view it on another device today doesn’t guarantee that you’ll be able to view it on your iPad.

Recently, I learned about an Apple “Regional Content Review” clause that all iPad content suppliers have to agree to submit and comply to.

I spoke candidly about this subject with Jeanniey Mullen, Global Executive Vice President and Chief Marketing Officer of Zinio Systems, who was open and willing to discuss what types of materials that customers will not be able to view on their iPad content viewer application that is due for release in April.

The Zinio Viewer and Store for iPad, coming in April 2010.

Zinio is a company that works with magazine publishers to create digital editions of popular newsstand periodicals, and the company provides access to subscription content from material from all over the world, from many different countries.

Effectively, with the Zinio viewer for iPhone and soon iPad, there are thousands and thousands of media-rich publications with color photographs and illustrations for you to choose from.

The viewer application on the iPhone and the iPad as well as on the PC and the Mac (and for other platforms to be announced in the near future) allows you to pan and scan pages and reproduce the paper magazine reading experience in full color on a mobile device.

Additionally, the Zinio application has unique interactive features such as videos and embedded “applets” that extend and enhance the magazine reading experience.

A demonstration of Zinio Dynamic Design from Zinio on Vimeo.

All of this is pretty awesome stuff. There’s just one little problem.

Zinio, just like any content provider for iPad and iPhone, has to submit all of its content to Apple under Regional Content Review. That means that if Apple decides certain titles that Zinio carries are unfit for a particular regional market — in this case, the United States — it will censor and/or prohibit those titles from being viewed on an iPad, iPhone or iTouch.

What does this imply for the iPad adopter and Zinio customer? You can log into Zinio’s site, download the viewer to your PC or Mac, and buy those titles and view them without restriction, but if you attempt to view them on your iPad, those titles will be blocked.

What sort of titles are we talking about here? Well, let’s start with the obvious. The domestic and all 16 international versions of Playboy, special editions and sister magazines thereof. The same goes with Penthouse Magazine.

But it’s not just soft-core porn. We’re also talking about fairly benign and nudity-free titles like MAXIM and FHM (now published only in France and Spain) which depict women in suggestive poses and wearing skimpy outfits.

[UPDATE 4/03/2010: MAXIM premiered on the iPad launch of Zinio, but Penthouse and Playboy and Vogue France cannot be viewed on the application, among others.]

Vogue France has apparently been blacklisted for US-based consumption, much in the same way that Wal-Mart removed it from its shelves due to its artistic and occasional use of nudity.

These publications are just the tip of the iceberg in terms of Zinio titles that are perfectly acceptable for foreign consumption but apparently are verboten in the US because Apple has now decided to become our Content Nanny.

But Zinio isn’t the only independent content provider that is going to be subject to regional content review. Amazon.com has 450,000 titles in its Kindle pantry and with just a cursory search, there are nearly 13,000 titles that are classified as “Erotica”. Amazon’s direct competition, Barnes & Noble has nearly 4,000 under that classification. The SONY Reader Store which distributes titles in Adobe Digital Editions format has approximately 2,600.

if you are one of those folks who feel erotica is “bad” and thus believe iPad prospective buyers who like this stuff should stay far, far away from the device, then the argument ends there.

Additional Resources:

Apple is not your mother

iPad in schools?
content controls, DRM and pricing mean no

Apple should let adults make their own decisions regarding content

However, while it might be easy to classify something as “erotica”, not all material that is stimulating necessarily falls under that category. There is also the slippery slope of material that may not actually be “erotica” and yet may be educational adult material that easily could fall through the cracks or will be rubber-stamped as “bad” by Apple with little or no consideration.

For example, there is all of the material written by popular sexologist Violet Blue, who has 28 titles for Kindle on Amazon.

A few of the titles of which she has author, contributor or editor credit are pure erotica, but the balance of them are “Self-Help” for singles and couples type manuals similar to the Joy of Sex which is widely considered to be a revolutionary treatise on the subject.

Violet Blue is well-known as a subject matter expert on sex who writes for SFGate.com, is a high traffic content supplier with her podcast on iTunes and has previously appeared on Oprah. And apparently Steve Jobs doesn’t like her very much.

Violet Blue uses extremely explicit language to describe the various techniques in the subjects she covers, and also has graphic illustrations that assist in the text. Is her work pornography or instructional/educational material?

ZDNet Podcast with sexologist Violet Blue on e-books, explicit content and iPad

According to Apple’s calculus under these new Regional Content Review processes which in terms of due diligence for Amazon, B&N and other large suppliers will be a Herculean effort — it’s likely going to be painted and classified into one big category: Not acceptable.

Besides erotica and self-help sex manuals there’s other stuff totally unrelated to those subjects that Apple might very well kick off the list. There’s all of Chelsea Handler’s bawdy books. And what about all of those medical texts out there that have graphical representations of male and female anatomy in photographs and illustrations? Or naturalistic depictions of unclothed women and men in back-issues of National Geographic?

How about Japanese Manga and other graphic novels and independent comic books which depict women in suggestive outfits and also frequently show extreme violence? Where exactly does Apple draw the line on this stuff? And if they forget to do proper due diligence and something slips between the cracks initially, will materials we’ve paid for and previously were able to view on the iPad and iPhone just disappear?

And content doesn’t stop at books and magazines. This clause would be sure to affect Netflix or other similar content-streaming service that serves up video as well.

I’m really looking forward to being an iPad owner. But if I find myself frequently running into Apple-imposed content firewalls, I may have to look at owning additional devices such as HP’s Windows 7-based Slate or Dell’s Mini 5 based on Android.

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Bradish@... 21st Mar 2010
we hear never ending stuff on google and censorship in china...good on ya google and yet right in your back yard you have Apple, the all american company doing a 'china' on america. I am sorry but I find that just so incredibly funny!
Here in Malaysia iTunes is (Apple's decision) iTunes with NO MUSIC!
Time to take a look at yourself in the mirror...except in this case it is not the US governement censoring, it is a significant US corporation...
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When you're right, you're right....
loupgarous 29th Mar 2010
...we shouldn't rag on China for political censorship when Apple Computer is doing it here in the land of the somewhat brave and formerly free.

The only difference here is that Steven Jobs is proposing to make us pay for the blade that will be used to castrate us, intellectually speaking.
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What a load of BS article
wackoae Updated - 21st Mar 2010
Talk about BS. The entire article sounds like a stupid idiot complaining about regional controls for DVDs.

We may not like it, but physical books, just like DVDs, have different publishers and are ruled by different laws in different regions of the world. There is nothing new about that fact.

Looking at the Kindle, you will find the same exact restriction. In fact, depending on where you live, you may not be able to purchase many e-books (or even regular books) from Amazon. Additionally, did they forget the issue with the 1984 e-book on the Kindle?

So Apple has the right to remove from their store questionable content. How is that different than Amazon or Barns&Nobel or Borders? Do you see any books about "How to rape a child and get away with it" on either store? Do you see a "How to blow up a plane" or "How to kill your wife" or anything like that in any store? How many books have been taken out of bookstore in the past after the company found them to be objectionable??

This entire article is nothing more that some BS written by somebody who is scared of what the Apple iPad can do to the competition. It is nothing but FUD from an totally bias source, with a political/business agenda.
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Looking at the Kindle, you will find the same exact restriction. In fact, depending on where you live, you may not be able to purchase many e-books (or even regular books) from Amazon. Additionally, did they forget the issue with the 1984 e-book on the Kindle?

All of Zinio's materials regardless of country of origin are viewable on their PC and Mac reader within the United States. International periodicals are sold on newsstands in the US.

This is not a licensing controls issue. The publisher itself reserves the right not to distribute its materials in whatever markets they choose. This is an Apple saying "You can only consume what WE see fit" issue.
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How is that different with any other store??

Did you ever think that they can't play the material BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT TO PLAY THEM? Just because it is sold in newsstands does not give them the right to reproduce and display the material without a legal contract with the publishers.

You are definitely a FUD/BS machine.
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Actually you are that stupid.
wackoae 21st Mar 2010
In a free market companies don't have to do business with everybody that wants to do business with them.

This is the same issue as Amazon or Borders not wanting to sell a book from X or Y publisher for what ever reason. It could be that they don't like the content or maybe they don't like the details of the contract or they just want more money.

Companies don't have to do business or support the products of other companies just because they want them to.

The entire article is nothing but FUD/BS because there is no difference between the deals Apple is making and the deals other companies are making every day. It has nothing to do with defending Apple ... if it was Amazon or Borders or even Microsoft or Google I would say exactly the same thing.
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How is NZ wrong, or trolling?
John Zern 21st Mar 2010
he said
The publishers WANT to display their content on the iPad. Apple won't let them. Apple knows what's best for you!

Isn't that what the article was saying?

How is it NZ is wrong? wackoae was the one saying that Apple has some sort of obligation not to sell pornographic material to a minor, yet that's not the issue.

They can determine that a book painting Apple in a negative light, or an unauthorized biography of Steve Jobs is inappropriate, dictating to content providers what they determine is acceptable.

Sure, any bookstore could do that, but the question is, do they?
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Feedng the troll
David Gewirtz 21st Mar 2010
Hey, trolls are people, too. Do they not get hungry? If you cut* them, do they not bleed? If you tickle them, do they not laugh?

Just remember, if you feed trolls, try not to give them too much sugar. They get unruly if you feed them too much sugar.

*Yes, I know. A "p-word" goes here. But this is a family show.
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Jeremy-UK 28th Mar 2010
No the point is that Apple is NO DIFFERENT to any other store, the
products sold in your store have to fit with your brand identity. Do you
honestly think Apple are going to sell all manor is stuff likely to cause
offence to the majority of its customers?!

I'll tell you what this is like; it's like Nintendo. They limited what could
and could not be sold of their console. Like Apple, if they deemed it
"objectionable" then it didn't happen, or the content provider had to
be changes. This is the same thing.

All stores make these judgement calls, Apple is no different. The
article misses that point.

Just because you don't agree with someone (or they critique a blog
post) doesn't make you a troll.
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AllKnowingAllSeeing 21st Mar 2010
didn't see that one coming. happy
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Trolls abound...
Snark Shark 21st Mar 2010
Weren't you acting rather trollish in the comments section of a DIFFERENT piece by Mr. Perlow recently, just because THAT particular one didn't lambaste Apple?

This person doesn't a very strong argument, admittedly, and does seem from the tone to be a "rah rah Apple" person, but then again, its just as bad to be an "Apple can do only evil" person as well.

My opinion is that Apple is making a big mistake here. They're in a position to do something reasonably good with this device (at least in comparison to the way they conduct their normal desktop and notebook computer business), and they're screwing it up because they're control freaks. Once again, its their unique combination of great engineering (and the people who deny they engineer great products just have an axe to grind) with horrible business practices.
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webmaster@... 22nd Mar 2010
before spouting you harebrained bile.
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You sure are that stupid.

You are suggesting that because publisher A wants to sell something in store B that B has to comply. Oddly enough that isn't how the world works.

If it did work that way, then I'd expect to see Playboy and Christian Bibles being sold through Islamic book chain stores, Carnivore recipe books to sold in Vegan stores, and even OS X and iPhones being sold in the Microsoft store(s). Did they ever open one of them or not?
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usmc0351 22nd Mar 2010
Unfortunately, you are the one that has it backwards. There is nothing in the article about forcing iTunes to carry any particular content, e.g. Playboy. The point is that if someone buys content from Amazon or B&N (not Apple), why should Apple be able to dictate whether that content shows up in the Kindle/Nook for iPad app? Those are two totally different issues.
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zkiwi Updated - 22nd Mar 2010
You mistake the iPad for a computer, when it appears to be designed as a somewhat "Disney-like" consumer device or perhaps a little closer to game consoles. There there are plenty of examples that prevent folk who don't agree to the console maker's conditions from producing content for them.

I suggest you take a look at "X Box only games" or "Wii only games" or whatever only. Do you have a problem with that?
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Really?!?!?!
mhap Updated - 21st Mar 2010
This is about material that is otherwise freely
available in the US. This is not illegal
material. It's material Apple doesn't
want you to have. And if Apple doesn't want
that material in the ibook store, fine, but
again if I want to buy it from B&N and view it
on my ipad why should Apple be able to stop me.
And the fact that B&N or any other store is
able to sell it shows that publishers want it
out there.

This is worse than them rejecting apps from the
app store, because now they're restricting
other people's stores. Even if you agree that
they can say no to a Kindle app, you have to
realize that allowing a Kindle app, but then
restricting what can be viewed within said app
is wrong.

And save the "you're just a pervert if you want
porn on your ipad" argument.
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If you want to watch porn, you are free to do it. I have no problem with it (specially when I occasionally enjoy doing it myself).

Just because you get something at B&N it does not mean that Apple has the right (or has) to support it. Besides, if you want to see eBooks from B&N you would buy an eReader that supports the format of what you purchased, not some random gadget that is not even out. Can you play eBooks made for the Sony eReader format on the Kindle?? Or Kindle books on the Sony eReader?? How is that different for the eReader in an iPad??

So you don't like the limitations on the iPad .... then buy something else. Is that simple concept so difficult to understand??

The iPad is not even out on the market, while there are about a dozen product already in the market for you to choose. Bitching about something that is common is just plain stupid.
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Not all there obviously
rhonin Updated - 21st Mar 2010
I think you are missing the point. This is not a common functionality.

If I buy an notebook/netbook/smartphone/pda (which I have several) I do not expect nor would I allow the OEM to determine what documents I work on, what music I listen to, what video I watch, what literature I read. Nor would I allow them nor expect them to change the rules after I have purchased it.

To think that this is the functionality that comes with the iPad? Why on earth would I buy one? In my personal opinion you are either cultish about the iPad, uninformed or your personal beliefs coincide with the newest iPad ideal.

That said, if Apple will allow other vendors the ability to display what the user has purchased from them (ex: Kindle) without cencorship and limit Apples "censorship" to iBooks, I am okay with this. If they want to censor everything run/displayed on the iPad I am not.

Aside from this soapbox, I won't be buying an iPad as I cannot see where in my lifestyle I would have any use for this type of device.
Not to mention the cost. Ouch!
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Well..
DannyO_0x98 22nd Mar 2010
Aren't you folks making the case that besides the dozen reasons you
won't buy an iPad, now here's one more.

Since you aren't going to get one, it doesn't really matter to you how
Apple treats other vendors' product.

But let's say that I'm one inclined to get an iPad and I'm trying to make
sense of today's post from Mr. Perlow, as in figure out if it's FUD or
doom. Is it an issue of geographical rights or content material? If it's
the latter, why is "Regional" in the name? Could this be related to
Amazon's cracking the whip on the publishers who aren't big enough
to tell Amazon to buzz off, the agency idea looks good to them.

One thing that occurs to me that unifies region and content would be
how courts are treating obscenity delivered via the internet.

At the moment it appears that an internet publisher of content is held
to the user's local community standards. Here's a link to a blog post
from attorney David Johnson.

The publishers may very well tell Apple that in return for license to
distribute material, Apple has to be sure that certain regions cannot
view certain content, no matter who sold it to the user, because
otherwise the publishers may be subject to prosecution.
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This isn't just about watching porn on your iPad. This is about censorship. Maybe Jason (and Chris for that matter on his own blog) didn't quite express themselves clearly enough. This is purely about censorship.

Today it's porn, soft core, mildly stimulating and such. Tomorrow - who knows. It might be politics. Imagine if you will, if certain books suddenly wound up on Apple's "Thou Shalt NOT have" list purely because it doesn't agree with Steve Jobs' political views.

Now... To a certain extent, you have to use a bit of common sense when you're publishing books. You probably would NOT want to reprint and distribute say... Solomon Rushdie's 'Satanic Verses' in Iran. It would likely incite yet another series of jihads... Stuff we can all do without.

But to censor material that is otherwise fine and legal to view is a bit silly.

It's even sillier considering the problem is to a large extent APPLE'S FAULT. It appears their parental controls do not work properly when it comes to putting content on their portable devices. So instead of FIXING the software problem so it works as expected, they decided to start censoring material.

It's a dangerous slippery slope they're treading on.
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However...
zkiwi 22nd Mar 2010
In a free-ish market, then Apple are going to either lose or have to work with a diminished market by going the route they are choosing.

That is probably a better remedy than going ape.... about what Apple does when they disagree with it.
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slippery slope
hunnymin1 23rd Mar 2010
'slippery slope' and 'small end of the wedge' arguments are a fallacy.
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How so?
Caculon 26th Mar 2010
I'm trying to be critical I'm just don't
understand.
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Badgered 22nd Mar 2010
If you want to watch porn, you are free to do it. I have no problem with it (specially when I occasionally enjoy doing it myself).

And if Apple wants to block that content, then what? Because that's pretty much what they're doing to this application. If they could block what content you're allowed to view via your browser... would you be okay with that too?
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In a strange way, I agree.
Lester Young 22nd Mar 2010
If Apple wants to play content nanny, that's their business. If content providers and customers choose not to do business with Apple as a result, that is a rational response. The big question is, is Apple's policy clearly and prominently disclosed to content providers and customers? If not, they are engaging in deception by omission.
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...So you don't like the limitations on the iPad .... then buy something else. Is that simple concept so difficult to understand??...

This is exactly what I plan on doing.

...Just because you get something at B&N it does not mean that Apple has the right (or has) to support it...

We are not talking about whether or not Apple has the right to censor content. We are talking about Apple's arrogance in deciding what is or is not acceptable viewing material for owners of their various devices. This long standing arrogant attitude which is Apple's way is one of the largest reasons I never have and probably never will purchase anything Apple.
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Well you're not buying one, anyway
still not nice 28th Mar 2010
We are talking about Apple's arrogance in deciding what is or is not acceptable viewing material for owners of their various devices. This long standing arrogant attitude which is Apple's way is one of the largest reasons I never have and probably never will purchase anything Apple.

The iPad isn't even out yet, so what the hell is it to you? Even if it didn't have the restriction this article says it does, I doubt you'd be buying one anyway.

I'd be far more concerned with M$ arrogance considering they got 90% the market covered.
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You're totally missing the point
ericesque 22nd Mar 2010
Apple isn't selling the content. Zinio is-- through their own store in their own app. All Apple is providing here is the hardware and OS necessary to view Zinio's store.

This is very much akin to having your TV restrict what channels you're allowed to view based on what the manufacturer deems appropriate.

This is nothing more than Apple policing their users in order to protect their brand. And sure, they're allowed to do it. But it's big brother to the Nth degree. I hope consumers pick up on it and send Apple feedback with their wallets.
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FanBoy Blind, Deaf and Sooo Wrong
cdmsr 22nd Mar 2010
Did you honestly misread this article so completely that you confuse outright censorship with regional controls on DVDs, or are you so completely enthralled by your Lord Stevus that you will publically embarrass yourself with such a monumental show of stupidity in an attempt to excuse this outrage?

That is pathetic.
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... to Amazon, Barnes & Noble and any other supplier of content if they want a piece of the iPad market. THAT'S the difference - censorship as business model.

Apart from that, Apple will be playing into the hands of every pressure group on the planet which wants to shape our minds and control our thoughts.

I'm not interested in learning what you consider "questionable content" when I order books online. I'm sure you feel the same about my ideas on the subject. The only solution to the problem is to STRONGLY discourage Apple from imposing THEIR ideas on what digital content is acceptable on the rest of us.
Now that you mention it, I've noticed that a certain book "My Descent into Death" which was classified as New Age at Books a Million, but which I bought from Barnes and Noble as an ebook and have on my Blackberry Phone and PC in the B&N Reader does not show up in my library on the iTouch. I wondered about this. Could this be the censorship you are talking about already in place for the iTouch and iPhone? Just a thought.
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Yes
jperlow 21st Mar 2010
This policy is already in place for iPhone and iTouch. It covers all of their devices.
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Positive?
rhonin 21st Mar 2010
or is the fact my 3GS is jailbroken.
I have no evidence of censorship on my device.
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use_what_works_4_U Updated - 22nd Mar 2010
.
...but why take the chance that other books will just silently vanish when Apple decides they're not suitable for us?
Apple cannot control this. Maybe on apps but there is a
cloud that answers to no one not even Google or Apple. If
this is your thing there is a whole browser experience out
there just not a cool app that God I mean Apple lets you see.
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@wacko
It's very different. They're letting the
Kindle or other
reader app onto the ipad, but then telling you
want you
can or can not read within that app even if
Amazon or
whoever is willing to sell it to you.

You could argue that they don't have to do
business with
Amazon, or anyone else, but once they decide to
do
business with Amazon they can't micromanage my
choices
within that ecosystem. And really, it's not
Apple doing
business with Amazon it's the consumer.
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Lets make it simple ....
wackoae Updated - 21st Mar 2010
Amazon has a contract with X publisher, but finds an objection to one of the hundred of books they publish. Do you think Amazon will sell the product in their store or do you think they have the right to prevent the distribution via their store?

In the case with a Kindle app, I don't see anywhere where it says that you can't play any Kindle related book within the totally separate Kindle app. The only related issue I see is with Apple refusing to sell or distribute the app via the app store.
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You are incorrect and you did not read the article.
jperlow Updated - 21st Mar 2010
In the case with a Kindle app, I don't see anywhere where it says that you can't play any Kindle related book within the totally separate Kindle app. The only related issue I see is with Apple refusing to sell or distribute the app via the app store.

The article is about a CONTENT REVIEW CLAUSE that requires all providers of content (Amazon, Zinio, etc) to submit all material sold on their CONTENT STORES to be subject to Apple review and refusal. That means that Apple can block books on the KINDLE APP from being viewed on an iPad.
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Imagine the outcry and ridicule MS would get
AllKnowingAllSeeing 21st Mar 2010
if they decided what programs or content where "acceptable" for viewing on machines running Windows, or what games where too graphic for use on XBox?

My guess is that people like some of the those posting here wouldn't be defending MS for deciding for us what games or content they felt were accaptable viewing.

Oh boy, I can hear the crys now: "Who the heck is MS to determine what I can play on my Xbox360!
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True ....
wackoae 21st Mar 2010
I guess that is why mod chips don't exist for the XBox360 and I can play WoW on it.

Oh ... wait... never mind.
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Don't confuse fraud and theft with censorship
AllKnowingAllSeeing 22nd Mar 2010
your example is inaccurate.

On the XBox live network, modified boxes allow the "theft" of services (gaining abilities not yet earned or available to others for an unfair advantage), or even the unfair accumulation of points or rewards (whatever) so that's a totally different scenerio you're trying to justify.

Sort of like a mechanic in NASCAR modifying his driver's car to give it an unfair advantage over those who follow the rules of NASCAR.

Or would you consider that "censorship"?
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On the XBox live network, modified boxes allow the "theft" of
services (gaining abilities not yet earned or available to others for an
unfair advantage), or even the unfair accumulation of points or
rewards (whatever) so that's a totally different scenerio you're trying
to justify


Yeah right, keep telling yourself that. Microsoft was banning xboxes
for having ?illegal hard drives?, among other things. So how is not
paying three times the price, for half the hard drive considered
?theft?? If anything allowing larger hard drive, would allow more
content to be purchased
! I can go into Best buy and pick up 250
GB hard drive for one third the price of Microsoft?s 120 GB
drive.
Sony does not do that, you are allowed to install any drive
that you can fit into the PS 3. I have yet to see an article on here
complaining about Microsoft denying the end users their rights. I
exercised my right by not buying an xbox. Asking Jason to act like a
mature adult is not too much. But I guess the ABA fanboys, and
windows zealots need something to whine about.
Pliny on this one. MS probally can't detect the difference between a modified XBox for whatever reasons, just that they've been modified.

But still, he's right: for those that are "stealing" services, it's totally different then censorship.
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chi28n2k 22nd Mar 2010
The mod chips are to play pirated, UNPAID for games, and material mostly related to MS's cost-model, or copyright law, not censorship. Did you just admit to a crime?
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Microsoft already does that.
Rick_K 22nd Mar 2010
They go as far as to decide what you can add to your xbox. That is just
one of the reasons I bypassed the second rate console, and bought a real
console. I did not sit there and write article upon article bashing the
company. I did the mature thing and spent my money elsewhere.
Something Jason should do, rather than run a smear article.
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What?
DannyO_0x98 22nd Mar 2010
You don't see any one calling out Apple on this? Your custom css settings
must be removing most of today's feedbacks.
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Censorship is censorship...
loupgarous 29th Mar 2010
...no matter which platform it runs on. I sure wouldn't be defending Microsoft if they chose to use their massive corporate resources to impose their viewpoints on the country.

While a certain amount of Microsoft-funded political twaddle goes out on the airwaves on MSNBC and on the Net via Slate, it's VOLUNTARY twaddle. No one's making me visit Slate or forcing me to watch MSNBC. MS is just adding its voice to the cloud of chatter. It isn't enough to make me go over to Ubuntu, that's for sure.

And gaming is, relatively speaking, a niche market by no means controlled by Microsoft. Plenty of other console manufacturers are out there waiting for the XBox to become too much of a bummer to play.

But if Apple convinces enough third-party vendors to adopt their censorship theme in order to get a piece of the iPod market...
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Legal reasons?????
dave95. Updated - 21st Mar 2010
The article is about a CONTENT REVIEW CLAUSE that requires all providers of content (Amazon, Zinio, etc) to submit all material sold on their CONTENT STORES to be subject to Apple review and refusal.

I'm no lawyer but could this simply be Apple needing to protect itself from any future lawsuits that could arise from a user using a competitor's store?

And try as I may, I just can't seem to use any "questionable" language in my comments without some stupid censorship, or deletion. Can you talk to your people about this dictatorship around here?
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Not exactly...
Wolfie2K3 22nd Mar 2010
This is about Apple being lazy in how they're dealing with a problem. That being the fact they can't figure out how to secure content by way of parental controls.

Situation: You've got an electronic subscription to Playboy's Zinio electronic version (for the articles, of course!) You download the content monthly and read it at your leisure at your desk.

You've got a son who also uses your computer to sync his iPad. He's searching your hard drive for whatever content and comes across a copy of Playboy. He adds it to his next sync session for the iPad. Mind you, he's only 15 yrs old and it's probably not entirely appropriate for him to be reading er... spanking his monkey to the pictures in said magazine.

So what Apple is doing is since they can't figure out how to keep Jr from doing this kinda thing, they're just going to make it so those items with "questionable" content do NOT sync... Ever.

Not even if you're the only one using the computer and are over 18 and are otherwise "legal" to do so.

The problem is - Apple can get an unhealthy dose of zealotry. What they censor today, can be expanded to censor OTHER things - and that's the part that's truly unacceptable.
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