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Apple's secret iPad advantage: The supply chain

By | February 7, 2011, 2:51pm PST

Summary: How is it that Apple is able to beat every single tablet vendor on price? Their secret sauce: The supply chain.

How is it that Apple is able to beat every single tablet vendor on price? Their secret sauce: The supply chain.

The word is out. That cool Android-based iPad killer coming out from Motorola? The XOOM? It’s going to set you back eight Franklins if you want to buy one. That’s $800.00, 9,566 pesos, 881,000 won or 5,275 yuan, for those of you keeping track.

Motorola may have made an ode and a bit of a tweak in the eye to Apple’s classic 1984 Macintosh commercial with their Superbowl XLV ad, and surely emulation is the sincerest form of flattery, but emulation doesn’t get you customers — at the end of the day, it’s all about costs, and how that translates to direct pricing to consumers.

The Motorola XOOM is indeed an impressive device. Dual-cores, 1GB RAM, 32GB of flash storage, front and rear cameras, a 10.1″ high-resolution display, integrated 3G and 4G-ready and expansion ports galore.

If you look at it compared to the current iPad, with its single-core processor, 256MB of RAM, 16GB of flash storage and 9.7″ XGA display (base model) it is indeed a killer device. The problem, however, is that Apple isn’t standing still.

Also Read: If it’s really priced at $800, Motorola’s Xoom won’t stand a chance against iPad

We really don’t know what is going to be in the next iPad, although we can make some educated guesses. However, I think we can be fairly certain that it will be announced soon, and that it will have a feature set that will allow it to be competitive with any Android 3 tablet due for near-term release, but most importantly, the base model will not exceed $500.00 in price.

This is something that no matter how hard they try, none of the other Tier 1 consumer electronics manufacturers are able to do. It’s probably flat-out impossible.

As I discussed in an earlier piece, “Next-Gen Android tablets can’t hang with iPad on price, Apple has set the bar at $500.00 for an entry-level 10″ Wi-Fi tablet device. So far, there are no products scheduled for release by a Tier 1 manufacturer that even come close to this price point.

How is Apple able to do this where nobody else can? It has to do with buying up the entire supply chain and being able to leverage quantity 10 Million+ manufacturing orders in advance with its partners in China like FoxConn and with semiconductor component suppliers such as LG, Samsung and Philips.

When you have 50 billion dollars in liquid assets, you can pretty much guarantee huge volume pricing discounts at that scale, as well as make those components scarce and expensive for your competitors to buy.

This ability to leverage economies of scale and large component pre-orders, enabling Apple to own all of its own inventory in advance of a major product release is something the company has been doing going back to 2001, when the first iPods were being manufactured.

This is a lead that will be very, very difficult for other Tier 1 manufacturers to be able to close the gap on, and why as nice as other products like the XOOM might end up being, in terms of being able to deliver the customer value at the price points they want to pay, they can’t even come close.

In the summer of 2010, semiconductor research firm iSuppli predicted that by the same time in 2011, Apple will be the second-largest purchaser of semiconductor components in the entire world, falling just behind Samsung, the current world leader. By 2012, it will pass both Samsung and Hewlett-Packard as the world’s largest purchaser of semiconductor technology.

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RE: Apple's secret iPad advantage: The supply chain
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I'm in the market for a tablet, but I have two basic requirements: 1 - not produced by Apple, 2 - not tied to a wireless carrier. I'm willing to pay more than the iPad, but not $300 more.
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Irrational and counter-productive
Falkirk 7th Feb 2011
@roteague: "I'm in the market for a tablet, but I have two basic requirements: 1 - not produced by Apple..."

Your attitude is just sad. If you find a product that, in your estimation, is better than Apple's, then by all means, buy it and enjoy it. But to deny yourself the pleasure of a product simply because you hate Apple is both irrational and counter-productive.
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@Falkirk "But to deny yourself the pleasure of a product simply because you hate Apple is both irrational and counter-productive."

Not really. If you dislike a company and the way they do business it would be irrational to support them by purchasing their products, don't you think?
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@Falkirk
roteaue obviously dislikes Apple for his own reasons, but not wanting to buy their products does not mean he's being irrational and counter-productive - it means he's taking a stance and voting with his wallet. It would make no sense for him to support a company that he doesn't like by going and buying one of their products - it would be completely hypocritical.
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@Falkirk I love Apples designs but I never liked their products enough to keep one and tried them all numerous times. It's just never sticks. That's why I become Android fan-boy I guess. Did I say I love Apple designs?
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You judge too fast
colinnwn 8th Feb 2011
@Falkirk

roteague didn't say why he has eliminated Apple, but there are some plenty valid reasons. I've had an iPod and an Airport Express. I loved my iPod, but every later generation of iTunes on Windows has become more bloated and painful to use. The Airport Express is a PITA to configure correctly unless you are using a Mac.

In my opinion, unless you have an all and only Apple home, their products while nice, aren't worth the heartburn.
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Why sad.
TripleII-21189418044173169409978279405827 8th Feb 2011
@Falkirk
I would fall into the same category. An iPad is a useless device for me because I run Linux which makes it a useless device but on a philosophical level, I refuse to give in to Job's control freak megalomania. These two items above make Apple, by default, a vastly inferior device without even looking at the tech specs. There are tons of stories about Apple doing really anti-consumer type things with you "leased" equipment from them, and if he, I or others decide that makes the Apple product line inferior and a refuse to purchase, it isn't sad, it's actually what may eventually tip the balance and eventually reduce Apple's arrogance.

TripleII
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@Falkirk
I disagree completely.
Kudos to roteague for not caving in to the hype and sticking to his guns and getting what he wants and not what Apple tells him he needs.

It's funny...Apple is no longer the underdog company that was battling the giant IBM in 1984. Apple is now the evil empire...that has been obvious for a few years now. They are controlling supply lines, intentionally and very hostile-like driving up costs of competitors and causing them to charge more for their products, which may very well be better than the ipad, but can't compete because they cost too much.

The only winner here is Apple. Consumers lose in this deal...no matter what you Mac Fanboys say.
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RE: Apple's secret iPad advantage: The supply chain
i2fun@... Updated - 8th Feb 2011
@Falkirk Outsourcing not good for America: http://www.economicpopulist.org/content/outsourcing-not-good-america

All you piddly brained iCrAppleholics think like corporations (like the mealy mouthed moron who wrote this PoS). No national pride in your country and building an economy completely dependent on foreign produced goods. What's so idiotic, is that over time, by not supporting the American economy with JOBS like Apple does, you are killing your very own customer base. Try to get that through one of your thick skulls is utterly impossible.
Shanghai one of over a dozen Chinese Cities along with numerous other economic zones learning what Capitalism is all about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhVxr8vpZn0

Jason and your ilk do not understand how serious this problem is. Two years after the meltdown and still no jobs are being created as fallout from the Massive Corporate Greed and political catastrophe we call our government, continues to spend us and our children deeper into debt. Meanwhile many countries in Europe understood that if you don't protect your jobs in your own country, you kill the very consumers you hope will even be able to buy your products. Study what Germany has done in being a boom economy instead of a bust like America is in after the greatest global recession the world has ever seen? They are one of the few country in the World that hasn't moved all their manufacturing to China!

Apple owns no factories of their own. They use fewer quality parts and have less features, like cameras sd card slots, hdmi connection, faster Bluetooth, faster wifi radios on phones that don't make calls and iFads that deliver half of what the competition provides. But they are still just a niche smartphone supplier in a country where nearly half of the smartphones sold last quarter are Androids and Google grew that market share at breakneck speed. What makes any of you idiots think it's going to be any different with the iFad when it's competition really gets rolling with slates?

CrApple's supply is dependent on other companies to be as successful as you. The moment you don't make any of your own parts, let alone make any of them in your own country, you are in danger of going under and having your bubble burst. That's what the greedy bass tards at Apple and fools like Jason don't get. Germany and their economy is booming because they understood this and instead of shipping all key manufacturing overseas, they worked to keep the jobs at home. Consequently they are still providing goods/exports to even China at a far greater rate than is coming into Germany because of strict price controls that our politicians aren't gutsy enough to support fearing losing corporate money and support for their re-election!

Meanwhile China keeps pulling our chains with cheaper labor that gets the factories built over there for when they do start allowing greater wages to keep it's economy booming. That's happening right now as they spend themselves into a boom economy, because they have the job creation to back it up!

Seven of the tallest top 10 Super Towers are in China today. Their middle classes are growing at rates unheard of in any civilizations history. They are providing jobs to an ever growing class of consumers with the income to now buy the products they make themselves. Millionaires are created by the hour at the fastest rate of any global economy in the history of mankind and you idiots still believe China's just a bunch of peasants imprisoned in labor camps to make our products from CrApple!!!

Got news for you..... Germany has the right idea, that we failed to learn and understand. It's called trade balance and if you rely on the opposite, sooner or later it's going to come back and bite you. But corporate America and our government has failed to learn this and let their greed and stupidity KILL OUR FUTURE!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11396874

btw... look at Jason's supplier list. What manufacturers on it, are actually creating jobs in America or are they just based in America? haha.... Motorola gets most of their parts supplies from China, Taiwan and S. Korea. Three countries that have learned about how to manage a better capitalistic society better than our own. Keep more jobs at home than you export and you too can be a booming economy rather than one that's still going BUST! ...or you'll die and your children will end up owing their salaries to foreigners. CrApple doesn't get it, but they are a greedy arrogant global machine building consumer markets to make up for our loss when we're gone! It's coming....... the day China becomes the number one Global economy over ours!
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unless its M$
Ron Bergundy 8th Feb 2011
@Falkirk then its OK to but something as long as it isn't M$!

would you like another helping of you double standards?
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Eat foot much i2fun???
i8thecat 8th Feb 2011
@i2fun

http://jobs.apple.com/index.ajs?BID=1&method=mExternal.searchJobs

Tons of jobs in the US... All created by Apple... Apple recruits college students to work from home and provide Apple's award winning customer service and support (#1 by a massive landslide for the last decade).

Care to tell me who makes computer chips in the US? Oh.. Gee.. No one?

Right after 911 happened, I went out and bought a Chevy Silverado (made in Texas). And I started seeing all these schmucks driving around in foreign cars with American flags plaster all over them... Those were the real hypocrites...

Apple is an American company that employs a ton of Americans. The bulk of Apple support for The US is still in California and Texas as well as the rest of the US (home based agents). Yes, Apple and the rest of the world rely on Asia for computer parts and assembly. That is how they stay in business. Samsung, Sony, toshiba, etc. are NOT American companies and they don't provide the US with tons of Jobs. Dell provides very few US jobs. GM is about the only company selling mostly American made cars. Most of Fords parts/cars are made outside the US. Heck, it's hard to find any company that can sport the made in the USA stamp. But I never expect a computer company to do it.

Apple is an American success story and something to take national pride in. Hating Apple is as un-American as you can get.
@Falkirk
roteague's argument may be different as just "hating" Apple. I have an iPod - and that's enough. I want the freedom as user that the Android platform is giving me, and that is denied to me from Apple.
As user I want to use the device the way I want - and not Apple want. And I want to run the software that I want and that suppliers are willing to offer me - and not the software Apple thinks is good for me.

That's the point.
@CJames: "If you dislike a company and the way they do business it would be irrational to support them by purchasing their products, don't you think?"

Agreed. But my guess is - and the responses to my post seem to support this - that most people dislike Apple (Microsoft, Google, etc.) for totally irrational reasons. As I said, sad and counter-productive.
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you are missing the point lu.ca
i8thecat 8th Feb 2011
@lu.ca

The real choices are actually with Apple, Nor Roid.. Think about it... Apple has all the apps.

What good is Roid when all the apps you want are for iPhone?

What is it that you just have "gotta do" with your Roid that you can't do with an iPhone? Root it? (you can do that with an iPhone). Install the apps you want? (Apple has all the apps, and you can still jail break an iPhone).

Update it (can't do that with a Roid, but you can with an iPhone)...

So seriously... Who is it that actually gives you something you can use and enjoy? It's not a Roid phone... If you don't have an iPhone, then the real sucker is you.
@I8thecat:

Funny, many of those openings are in Budapest, China, Singapore, Ireland, Belgium, England, Spain, Canada, etc.

Go ahead and keep your head in the sand, I applaud roteague for holding his principals. Apple's behavior in the labor market is horrid.

Typed on my MacBook Pro.
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@Falkirk

Apple's tying of products to iTunes may or may not be in violation of anti-trust laws, but it certainly violates my ethical standards, especially when applied to a device I theoretically "own".

What if you had a Honda but you had to take it to Honda to have any maintenance or upgrades performed, and you could only use Honda-allowed parts and equipment? You'd hate Honda, too.
@cjames

The other companies that you like, you think you know everything about them? They all have chinese connections and probably use some sort of exploited human labor. In that case anything you buy has a chinese connection, you never know what business practices were made. why don't you spare yourself from your self made holy war, and just buy the best product out there.
@NetAdmin1178 these people don't like a certain company for certain moral reasons because they want to create a sort of self righteousness for themselves (aka false righteousness). Deep down, every company out there would die to be in Apple's place if they can do the same thing, don't forget all of these companies is ALL about money. They do the fullest extent to what they can get away with to get the most advantage. Any of them that tries to yield and play nice will be wiped out in this cut throat business, as in most competitive business.
@roteague
The reason you're in the market for a tablet is because of APPLE!!! Think back 12 months ago LOL
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please... not so fast...
dpt308 Updated - 8th Feb 2011
@Hasam1991
I was in the market for a tablet three years ago and bought a tablet pc and love using it all the time and long before apple came out with (their version of the slate tablet pc).
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Yes, fast...
LTV10 8th Feb 2011
@dpt308
Those aren't real tablets. They're laptop PCs with swivel screens and a desktop OS band-aided on to it.

And Apple never had a version of the "slate tablet", the vaporware M$ and HP abandoned a few months ago, so let's drop that myth, shall we...
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Apple Newton anyone?
WinTard Updated - 8th Feb 2011
@LTV10

And Apple never had a version of the "slate tablet"?

How convenient to rewrite history from Apple's fanatics memory -- and erase all traces of unpalatable failure?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=apple+newton+debacle

No handwritten symbol recognition yet? That's not a real tablet. It's a toy with training wheels that can't be removed.

Talk about vaporware from Apple... People are already speculating about the iPad5 !

LOL!
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@LTV10,

How wrong can you be?

Fujitsu, Motion, Compaq (the coolest design ever), NEC, and a number of others have had what you call "real" tablets for going on a decade now.

The HP Slate 500, your so-called vaporware, is now shipping with Windows 7 and dual digitizers (meaning pen input plus touch) making it a "real" Tablet, not just a flat entertainment device such as the iPad.
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RE: Apple's secret iPad advantage: The supply chain
G Computer Network 8th Feb 2011
@LTV10 I have that "vaporware" that MS and HP abandoned, and it works beautifully. No crapware on it and no modified UI, but Windows 7 is built for touch and perfectly usable. Sure you have to get used to a few things and sadly there isn't a lot of third party software that is built for touch screens. But overall the device works nicely for web browsing (including Flash centric sites) and has a couple of very nice cameras.
@Hasam1991
Ya' know, I've wanted a tablet even before Apple got into the game.
i2fun@...

Nice speech. Make sense. You from UK? If so, how many manufacturing facilities in your country. Yes, right. It has been a while since I have seen a product "Made in England", beside granny's candies. UK is a service country. France is becoming one, actually Europe is becoming one big service continent trying to use cheap labor from Greece, Turkey, etc..
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LOL... grin

Yes, the 'magnificant' Slate, powered by a windoze 7 operating system that made a vaporware appearance at CES 2010. The tablet everybody's heard about but nobody's seen.

Unless you now want to call WebOS another Micro$oft operating system. No?

And the Apple Newton? A piece of junk from the 1990s?

LOL... C'mon, pal. You're reaching. Is that the best you can feebly do?

I guess that's all we can expect from 'Tards that can't Win. silly
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@WinTard: Are you illiterate? The Newton was a PDA, not a tablet.
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@roteague
As far as not being tied to a wireless carrier, you can get a Wi-Fi only iPad and purchase your own Wi-Fi hotspot. I don't have the $$$ for one, but I won an iPad in a company contest. I love it! It has replaced my netbook. Haven't used a laptop in years. With a bluetooth keyboard built into the case, I have a great computer, more portable than anything else -- and certainly easier to read than any smartphone.
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@andy.hefty@...
You have an ipad with a keyboard built into the case?
So you essentially have a stripped down version of your netbook?
Why would you downgrade?

Give me a good netbook any day over an iPad.
A netbook will give you a full operating system, access to the entire internet, use of usb ports, replaceable battery, multitasking, I can install programs I use on my home desktop for use on the go....I could go on forever. An iPad can't do any of that...except by skinnier and be attached at the hip to iTunes.

I like the iPad...it has a place in this world (I prefer Android, but that's a different story). But those who say an iPad can replace a netbook are living in a world that doesn't understand what netbooks are capable of and they also apparently have no clue as to what limitations an iPad has. I also gather that those same folks who say they replaced their netbook with an iPad, only used the netbook for light internet use and emailing.

Sad.
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@ Xander_Crews: Some people want a case with a built in keyboard, others are fine with out one. I can use my bluetooth keyboard with my iPad but I don't have to which means that I have flexibility.

With a netbook, the keyboard is always attached and the OS interface basically requires a keyboard and trackpad to operate.
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RE: Apple's secret iPad advantage: The supply chain
chrisbranning557@... 8th Feb 2011
Another goober that thinks he does not like Apple. Most of you guys have simply never used/owned their products.

Have you ever noticed how very, very few articles or comments you see from Apple users who can't wait to get an Android device? I see only a handful (over the last two years). I have an iPhone and an iPad. I read, with great interest, about the changing nature of the Android platform. Innovation is good for all consumers. But, I don't want either an Android phone or certainly not their tablet. Why? Because I already have something that is at the top of it's game both in function and beauty. I'm good.

Don't think there is a reason why I feel this way?
@chrisbranning557@...

I am thinking possibly subliminal messages from your apple devices...
@chrisbranning557@...
Good thing the world doesn't revolve around you. Nice you're all for function, but beauty isn't everything. If it was, we'd still be using beige computers.
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@chrisbranning557@...
See...this is where you Mac Fanboys are blind.

Apple's products are NOT at the top of the game. Android is outselling the iPhone right now...where have you been? The best Android phones can just flat out do more than an iPhone. The iPhone definitely has it's pluses, but overall the best Android phones are superior.

The iPad is selling well, but the best Android tablets out now do way more than the iPad can do. The iPad is more popular, but it's not the best device out there.

The iPod was great, but there are much better portable music devices out there that do more, are easier to work with, for less money.

Sorry, you can't disagree, because it's true.

Apple makes a solid product, they always have, and people buy into their marketing hype. They are masters of creating such buzz and hype through marketing...it's ridiculous..and their stuff always looks great and is well built. But their product has never been "the best" when competitors have released their "Apple killer". The competitors always outdo Apple in the number of things the device can actually do, and they charge less...except in the case of the iPad competitors...so far.
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Sorry Xander_Crews, you fail...
i8thecat 8th Feb 2011
@Xander_Crews

Verizon set a sales record when they sold out of iPhone on February 3rd in just 5 hours between 3am and 8am...

No... The Roid wannabes do not sell better than iPhone, never have, never will. So now that Verizon is in the iPhone game, poor little wish I was an iPhone Roid bois like you get to wither away into the medeocracy that you have worked so hard to become. Iphones don't sell because of marketing, they sell because of word of mouth. And the world of mouth on Roid phones is that they suck. There is a reason all the developers of the world develop for iPhone first and Roid is nothing more than a second thought. Roid users are second class citizens and the Roid App store reeks with malare, identity theft, and zero quality control. You don't set sales records with marketing, no matter how good that marketing is, after the initial purchase, the marketing is gone and the product has to stand and deliver. iPhone delivers in spades... Roids deliver exactly what the name implies, a pain in the butt device that owns you. Enjoy your Roid fanboi. Suck down that Roid koolaid. Your Roid is no longer competing with AT&T, now it's competing with Apple. Buh Bye.
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@Xander_Crews And this is where Apple haters are blind. What may be superior from a spec sheet stand point does not make it a superior device for the average consumer, you know those people that are buying these devices by the millions. Are all Android phones combined outselling the single iPhone line, sure everyone knows that. Are they all comparable to the iPhone, no they are not. There are top tier Android phones that are comparable to the iPhone and in some cases surpass (at least spec sheet wise) the iPhone. There are also a ton of Android phones that don't even come close to the iPhone or the top tier Android phones but you have to lump them all together to surpass the iPhone sales.

What the haters seem to miss is that the average consumer apparently loves the products that Apple puts out. The select Apple devices because they are the best device choice for them. What makes them the best choice for that particular consumer may vary but unlike what you want to believe it's not simply because they fell for marketing hype.
@roteague

I agree. I'm not going to let any 3rd party control what applications I install on my device, or what content I buy or view. Not looking to start a religious war - I understand that a lot of people are comfortable letting Apple make all the decisions about apps and content, I just don't happen to be one of them.
@DaveN_MVP,
"I agree. I'm not going to let any 3rd party control what applications I install on my device."

Then you should buy an iPad or iPhone. With these devices a deal is made between two parties, the purchaser and the manufacturer, You and Apple. Apple has worked very hard to insure that no third parties like malware writers or other groups with bad intents can gain access to your device or data.

If on the other hand you do want third parties to have the potential to gain control of your devices, buy something else.
@roteague I'm in the market for a tablet, too. Unlike you, I'll buy the product which best matches what I want to be able to do with it, regardless of the brand stamped on it. Right now, the Xoom looks to be the best tablet device out there, but I'm delaying my purchase to see what Apple does with the iPad2.

What amazes me about these articles is that they all compare a WiFi-only iPad price against the 3G Xoom price and complain about it. Well, duh. Compare the 3G iPad with a similar amount of storage to the 3G Xoom and suddenly the prices are nearly identical. These simpletons should really wait to see what a WiFi-only Xoom with less storage sells for later this year. As it stands, they are comparing a Lexus with a Suzuki and saying it's crazy that the Lexus costs more.
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In their defense
voyager529 8th Feb 2011
@BillDem

I'm no iPad fan by any rational metric, so defending it is a bit odd for me, but I digress.

You're perfectly right that making a direct comparison makes the prices more competitive. However, Motorola hasn't released a lower end model to compete with the wifi-only iPad. In a supreme level of irony, Apple provides more choice - at least for the moment - than Motorola does, offering both a low end version for people who want to Tweet on their couch, and a high end version for people who want everything on the go. Motorola has no such tiered set of SKUs. Thus, the Motorola unit gets compared between what people want (an iPad that plays Angry Birds and looks pretty), and what's available (a kitchen-sink Xoom).

Joey
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@BillDem You think the Xoom is the best tablet device out there for you but you are holding off purchasing to see what the iPad 2 offers? I commend you for looking at the iPad 2 as an option but if you weren't you couldn't buy now anyway could you? So honestly waiting on iPad 2 isn't the only reason you are waiting, since you can't buy the Xoom now anything.

I also find it funny you call the authors of the articles simpletons for not realizing to compare like equipped devices when talking price. The issue with that is you missed the point. They are not trying to compare like equipped devices, they are obviously commenting on the fact that the iPad has a lower entry point. If somebody is looking for a 3G equipped device with 32GB of storage they will compare the two but the average consumer is looking at entry price at least at first. This is what the competition has to overcome. You can make excuses that they have not released their lower end model but until they have it doesn't change anything.
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@roteague The Xoom is a 32GB 3G/4G device for $800. The iPad 32GB 3G is $729. For $71 more dollars, you get 4G, more RAM, 2 cameras, no iTunes and a much smaller (cheaper) screen. Life is a trade-off, but this equation is close.
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RE: Apple's secret iPad advantage: The supply chain
Pete "athynz" Athens 8th Feb 2011
@Regulator1956 You forgot to add in the 3G contract for the Xoom... at the lowest price of $20/m that's $480 more tacked on the price of the Xoom. The iPad is not subject to a monthly 3G plan - one can buy 3G for a month then let it lapse for a few months, then pick it up again if needed. Besides you are comparing a year old device with it's successor on the way vs a device that has not been released into the wild...
@Regulator1956 So why doesn't Xoom sell a version with WiFi for $499, like the iPad?
@Regulator1956

" So why doesn't Xoom sell a version with WiFi for $499, like the iPad?"

Probably because carriers like Verizon (moto's customer) need to try and make revenue of the Xoom by locking down users to contracts and data. You can't do this with wifi. Sad sad.
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@roteague

Ah, mindless bigotry combined with a rampant display of professed, yet limited wealth. How refreshing.
@Falkirk
"Not really. If you dislike a company and the way they do business it would be irrational to support them by purchasing their products, don't you think?"

That's his decision. I would argue that if your reasons to dislike Apple are irrational (I hate black turtlenecks), then the reason to not buy their products is also irrational. Which really doesn't mean a damned thing in the long run.

We can all make irrational decisions, and then justify them because we avoid cognitive dissonance, right? Who cares.

Roteague, hate Apple all you want for whatever reason. Just don't hate those that disagree with your assessment.
@roteague
As owner of an Archos 10.1 Android 2.2 Tablet, I know that there are devices that can beat the iPad by price.

OK, the LCD screen of the Archos may be better for to be able to beat the iPad, but this may be in the price range.
On the other side is the much higher connectivity of the Archos, and the design is even more sleeker than Apple's device, without being feeling as cheap as most cheap China devices.

So it is possible - just do it.
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@lu.ca@... It comes down to personal choice. Bought my wife an iPad for Christmas and we recently purchased an Archos here at the office to mess around with. Sure the Archos costs a lot less but after spending time with both I would spend the extra money on the iPad again versus the Archos. Is it a bad device, certainly not but the savings isn't worth the difference in devices for me. Your mileage may vary happy
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