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Forget Kindle DX. How about the ZuneBook?

By | May 6, 2009, 6:21pm PDT

Summary: The ZuneBook is a Windows Mobile 7-based color touchscreen tablet device the size of a Kindle that plays audio and video media, with built-in e-book reader capabilities, Wi-Fi, runs .NET mobile applications and uses a scaled down version of the “Surface” interface, also known as Oahu. The cost? About $500.00. (Conceptual design by Spidermonkey) Forget [...]

The ZuneBook is a Windows Mobile 7-based color touchscreen tablet device the size of a Kindle that plays audio and video media, with built-in e-book reader capabilities, Wi-Fi, runs .NET mobile applications and uses a scaled down version of the “Surface” interface, also known as Oahu. The cost? About $500.00. (Conceptual design by Spidermonkey)

Forget Kindle DX and its unitasker, locked-down functionality. I want the new Microsoft ZuneBook.

Click on the “Read the rest of this entry” link below for more.

If you haven’t heard by now, the ZuneBook, which should be reaching store shelves sometime next year, will be a tablet device which Microsoft is releasing that will utilize a number of digital convergence technologies that have been under development for some time — portable HD media playing, advanced touchscreen human interfaces based on a scaled-down, consumer version of “Surface” (Oahu).

The handheld, Kindle 2-sized, color touch screen ZuneBook will have e-book reader capabilities, as well as the ability to read and modify Microsoft Office documents, and will use the latest Windows Mobile 7 platform optimized for small MIDs and tablet devices. The device will run Windows 7 Mobile applications written to a superset of the current .NET Mobile Edition specification, so any software developer will be able to extend the device’s functionality with games and other application software.

With the release of the device, Microsoft will be launching an online ZuneBook Store, where e-books, .NET mobile applications and various media content including music, movies and television shows will be hosted for instantaneous download directly from the unit, over Wi-Fi connection. A built-in SD-HC slot will allow users to easily expand the device’s generous 8GB of flash storage. The cost? A mere $500 retail.

What do you mean you haven’t heard of the ZuneBook? You think I just made this thing up?

Well, yeah, actually, I did. Sorry.

I may have pulled the ZuneBook out of my rear end, but the truth of the matter is that such a device would likely be a tremendous hit in the marketplace, if current Kindle figures are any indication. Apple is no doubt going to release it’s own MID/Touchscreen tablet in the next year, but Microsoft has no such plans for something as ambitious as the ZuneBook. It seems the company is only interested in smartphones with their current designs for Windows Mobile 7, when really they could be producing the ultimate digital convergence device, with a huge built-in developer ecosystem that could crank out killer applications for this thing like nobody’s business.

While the Apple Tablet will undoubtedly be successful and would have a built-in audience of iPhone and Macintosh loyalists, let’s face it — most people own PCs and run on Windows. The natural companion to Windows 7 would be a Windows Mobile-based tablet device, with the ability to access native Microsoft file formats and use Windows Media-compatible content. Because the device would be extensible, any number of modular data plugins — such as Adobe PDF — could be written so the device could read any e-book, document or media format. A built-in browser would also allow the ZuneBook to download and auto-install content from anyone’s hosted ebook store.

The ZuneBook may only be a figment of my imagination, but I’ve got a feeling I’m not the only person out there that would like to see this device become a reality. Talk Back and Let Me Know.

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RE: Forget Kindle DX. How about the ZuneBook?
JACOBSONR 14th Oct
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Leave out Microsoft Reader format please, been burned before
palmsolo (aka Matthew Miller) 6th May 2009
Jason,

You stated, "Because the device would be extensible, any number of modular data plugins ? such as Adobe PDF ? could be written so the device could read any e-book, document or media format. A built-in browser would also allow the ZuneBook to download and auto-install content from anyone?s hosted ebook store."

I think you may really be dreaming of utopia here that will never happen. I used to read ebooks with Microsoft Reader on my Pocket PCs, but that format is just about dead because new devices no longer have a reader client. To read these books now you need to keep an old Pocket PC around or find an old install of the app for your desktop. I doubt Microsoft would open up to many formats and fear we would be locked into a way for Microsoft to get a cut of ebook sales.
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Extensible means extensible
jperlow 6th May 2009
Anyone would be able to write an EPUB plugin, PDF plugins, ODF plugins, PRC/AportisDOC or even MOBI plugins. That's what extensible means happy
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Forget both, what about the PerlowBook
markbn Updated - 6th May 2009
It will have these features:

* Built in Wi-Fi
* Built in Satellite Dish Antenna
* Home Theater Speakers and Subwoofers
* Ability to surf the web, manage calendar,
contacts,
etc.
* Full color screen with full glare
* 1 hour battery life
* Will fit in the pocket
* An IBM sticker
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Isn't it a tad too premature
jperlow 6th May 2009
for there to be Kindle fanboi-ism?
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No "fanboi-ism" (sic)
markbn Updated - 6th May 2009
I just paraphrased some of the nonsense you
usually propose and added a couple of things

However, isn't it premature to deride the Kindle
DX?
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Apparently not.
IT_Guy_z 7th May 2009
This one has his/her shorts in a wad because I posted info from Amazon's Kindle forum site, relating to problems people were having with the screen being damaged very easily.

http://www.kindlenewsandreviews.com/kindle-owners-experiencing-broken-screen-issues/

Just like the Microsoft, Linux & Apple, etc., fanboys/girls...no one is allowed to take issue with their beloved products...even if there are potential problems with it.

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Oh, you get pissed off, poor soul
markbn 7th May 2009
Remember, there were those kinds of
speculations about iPhone too:

http://www.intomobile.com/2007/06/25/apple-
iphone-may-be-incredibly-fragile.html

So what? Every device can have any problem, but
time will tell. However, I just pointed out
that your favorite devices is so boring and
makes you look so cheap that your only answer
could be spreading FUD

have a nice day.
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Who says I'm pissed off?
IT_Guy_z 8th May 2009
I'm having one huge laugh at your pathetic responses.
of mud sliding a device that is better than your
favorite gadget

"IT Guy"?? hahahahahaha
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Give it a rest Jason
betelgeuse68 6th May 2009
Many Kindle owners are interested in reading books
*ONLY*. Most are 40+ years of age. They don't want to
recharge a device continually.

What part of this don't you get?

If you want a Netbook, laptop or smart phone then use a
Netbook, laptop or smartphone.

Give this tired topic a rest.

-M
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...not $500 interesting but definitely interesting. But MS just doesn't have the pull in this space. It didn't really occur to me until the last year or so that MS really isn't a consumer brand. Now watch the fanboys run in here talking about Windows....but if you pay attention the consumer really doesn't care about Windows itself....they just think thats how a PC or laptop runs/functions. The only other consumer product thats moving for MS is Xbox and its VERY VERY easy to forget its an MS product. Just about everything else with a big MS label flops in the consumer world.
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$500
jperlow 7th May 2009
is questionable. That was a back of the envelope calculation based on what parts I thought might go into it. Could easily be $300 with manufacturing scale, etc.
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What about mice and keyboards
stano360 7th May 2009
and to be fair, Zune hasn't flopped relative to the other ipod also rans, just compared to the ipod.

Of course this is ironic given that MS has historically crushed it's competitors with marketing, but in this case the other ultra-marketer Apple has outdone them.
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Greed is ruining MS's name and will be its downfall...
HeadScratcher7 Updated - 28th May 2009
It's why I suspect that Google WILL win in the end. Microsoft will try to control the content. Google will throw it wide open, be everybody's buddy, and sneak in a few ads. LOL By giving stuff away "free" and using open source, Google makes more friends in the consumer space.

It wasn't so long ago, people bought 1 copy of a piece of software and put it on all their computers. But now, MS, and many others are trying to convince you that its now only 1 copy for every computer -despite the fact that the number of computing devices per household is rising by leaps and bounds. At least the security suites partially get it and most offer 3-license boxes. MS better start doing the same or soon Android will be on every smartphone, MID, and then march right onto the desktop. No 1 copy for 1 computer limits there.

Now if someone was going to do a Zunebook correctly it would need Bluetooth 3.0 (so would support wireless mice and keyboards), tilt sensors and an accelerometer too -essentially all the features already in an iPod Touch.

To betelgeuse68: With all the power saving advances being made in LCD's and 20-sec quick-charging batteries, the e-ink display may very well die before anyone can even get around to a consumer model with color.
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How About The FlopBook?
itanalyst2@... 6th May 2009
Might as well call it for what it would be at launch..a FLOP.
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Why flop?
jperlow 6th May 2009
Because of the branding (Zune) or because it is a Microsoft product? Branding can be anything, the important consideration is the proposed technology built into the device. We could call this device anything.

Windows 7 will be a success. If they can (mostly) erase the bad feelings about Vista, they can erase similar feelings about Zune. The bottom line is the Windows 7 mobile software and the integration of the built in applications cannot suck if the device is to be successful.

If it's a question of "Any device released by Microsoft cannot possibly be good" then your target device is a iTablet or an Android netbook. Plenty of consumers will want integration with their Windows systems and will purchase this device based entirely on feature set and pricing.
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What ever happened to the zunephone?
Intellihence Updated - 7th May 2009
All this speculation and nothing. Again let me state this as clearly as
possible. Microsoft is not in the hardware business. You bunch of
zunies/lunies get real.
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The point of speculation
jperlow 7th May 2009
Is to make people think outside the box. Speculation and productive discussion drives innovation.
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ZuneBook models
davebarnes Updated - 6th May 2009
ZuneBook Starter - only displays 1 color, white or black. Your choice.

ZuneBook Home Basic - displays 2 colors. Any two colors as long as they are black and white.

ZuneBook Home Premium - displays 16 colors and reminds you of everything you miss about Windows 1.0.

ZuneBook Home Media Center - displays 256 colors and has speakers. The sound is always 2.63 seconds delayed from the video.

ZuneBook Business Basic - displays two colors on white background. Red and black. Color displayed is real-time linked to the profitability of your employer.

ZuneBook Ultimate - aka the Apple iReader. Available at your local Apple store.
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LOL
jperlow 6th May 2009
Funny, but predictable
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Get your iReader now only $999
stano360 7th May 2009
I can't wait!!

-Beautiful touch screen
-Awesome interface
-1gb of ram (4gb model $1200)
-no sd slot
-eBooks on $19.99 (new releases, older books on $14.99!)
-will only play .mov files
-will only work with iTunes
-and no stereo bluetooth
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You forgot one thing...
Wolfie2K3 8th May 2009
...NO removable battery. Batteries cost $129 and can only be installed by an Apple factory trained technician - meaning you have to send it in for repair.
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you are right
bannedfromzdnetagain 14th May 2009
probably $899 and it will sell like hotcakes!!

of course it won't have a sd slot or user replacable battery but it will have
at least 16gb (remember apple introduced the concept of smartphones
having decent internal memory, before the iphone we got 512mb or less
standard on so called "smartphones").

so, no sarcasm here.
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All MS has to do is encourage the development of ...
P. Douglas Updated - 6th May 2009
... netbook / notebook, multi-touch tablets. These devices would be able to function as full PCs, plus work especially well as ebook readers, multimedia devices, etc. These devices could start intially at under $400, and fall in price over time.

Some of these devices could support a regular PC mode, as well as a low power, instant on, ebook reading, telephony, and other key functionality mode - probably based on some form of Windows CE.
Msft. Entertainment and Devices division which contains
Zune, Xbox, Windows Mobile and others lost 31 million
last quarter.

In fiscal 2008 they made a miserly 426 million!

That's 426 million with Zune, Xbox (xbox 360) and all the
Win Mobile licenses (phones) !!
I forgot the division also sells all Msft keyboards, mice etc.

Apple makes more from iPod alone.

Msft announced in January Zune sales down 54%. iPod
sales went up. Zune is basically on life support.

I don't give much hope for Zune book.
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What?!
Average-IT-Guy 7th May 2009
Erm. Wow. Thanks for all those figures that have nothing to do with this post.

Whatever possed you to post this? I really don't get what you're trying to say. Did you read the title and then jump straight in to typing this post full of pride thinking "I'll show them. Look how much I know. Look what I can prove."

All you've proved is that you're quite baised and that you really don't read articles fully or if you do you have no ability to understand what is being said.

I think this is a great idea and it's something I'd pick up for sure and I think this is something that could completely revive the Zune brand.

I'm just annoyed at Perlow that he made it up!!
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But will it read PDF ?
JoeRJr Updated - 7th May 2009
As with ANY eBook reader and format, it's vital to NOT be only proprietary or "has to be programmed" formats or status...the ZuneBook has to read and display PDF properly as well, as that is also a very widely used eBook standard.

Add the fact that ZuneBook is currently way behind, and will be out in 2010, it seems likely that quite a few competitors will have equal or better products -- even including rudimentary color -- out in 2009.
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Great Idea !
jpr75_z 7th May 2009
e-book readers/tablets are catching on. What you describe will be the next generation (or so) of these devices. If MS is smart, they will get into this market. In a few years, we could see a full featured, multi-purpose e-reader/tablet that can replace cell phones, mp3 players, newspapers, magazines and so on.
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RE: Forget Kindle DX. How about the ZuneBook?
dusty_reed@... 7th May 2009
Nice idea. Add a data connection to allow download from a computer as well for software upgrades and books. There are areas where downloading over a 3G connection will cost you. Sure wish I had had something like that in school instead of carrying a bunch of books. It could be used for email and web surfing too with the correct software. As WIMAX is coming that should not be forgotten either. If it could use Bluetooth to connect to a printer, and print, it now would be a really useful device.
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Microsoft hasn't innovated in years
xXSpeedzXx 7th May 2009
And from what I have seen, that isn't likely to change anytime soon. MS of Late has been sitting on the sidelines watching what other companies do, and when it appears that a company has something, then they try to copy it. By then of course it is too late.

MS hasn't innovated one thing since Windows and Office. Everything else has either been bought, copied, or stolen. And given that fact I don't see MS being a viable company for too many more years.

MS peaked with Windows and Office.
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M$ is brain dead
Linux Geek 7th May 2009
M$ can't design hardware that is more complex than a mouse or a keyboard, so forget about zune reader.
They can't even include it in the tablet PC software.
FOSS will seize this moment!
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Microsoft
Cylon Centurion 7th May 2009
Is primarily a software company.
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MS doesn't design hardware
xXSpeedzXx 7th May 2009
They just have Microsoft slapped onto logitech hardware.
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Lack of knowledge
NubGoblin 8th May 2009
I'm always amazed at how little people know, and how much they are willing to flaunt it. You top the list.
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Jason...April Fools was last month!
linux for me 7th May 2009
This is a joke, isn't it?

All kidding aside, designated ereaders are never going to make it main stream. With approximately the same price, you can get a netbook and read documents in any available format you want, plus all the other activities of a full fledged system.

Save your money for a real product.
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Interesting concept, but naming it the Zunebook is going to
doom it. Zune is synonymous with failure and incompetence.


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News Corp (foxnews) is working on one
Randalllind 7th May 2009
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/departments/online/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003969791

My biggest complaint is price on Kindle. $300-500? Then $9.99 a book? You got to be f***ing out of your mind.

I also like to see 500GB hd so I can have a unlimited library.
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Red herring journalism meant to trigger a response?
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Correction
rag@... 7th May 2009
The conceptual photo is off. If Microsoft is designing it, there should be some big knobs and levers with an unintuitive interface.
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I'd buy one of those in a HEARTBEAT! That is exactly the kind of device that would appeal to me. The Kindle doesn't hold much for me, but with the specs you detailed I'd definitely own one. I could see my wife and kids each getting one as well.

Come on Microsoft, make something I WANT! This!
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RE: Forget Kindle DX. How about the ZuneBook?
Loverock Davidson 7th May 2009
Holy crap Jason, as much as I hate to agree with what you say, I actually like this idea. This may be one of the best blog posts you ever made. I think you've finally nailed a concept that manufacturers should embrace, and yes I would purchase one if they could make it at a $500 price tag.
And trying to get an OEM to do something right is a major pain.
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MS is hardware
NubGoblin 8th May 2009
They designed and developed the Xbox and the Zune's baring the first 30G version.
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Jason,

As long as we're talking convergence, let's go all the way. I want this device to have everything you specified, PLUS Bluetooth and cell phone capabilities.

I'm perfectly willing to carry something the size of the Kindle, IF it's the only device I have to carry (I object to E-book readers that don't do anything else).

Because you've already specified multimedia playback, let's have Bluetooth for the stereo headphones.

Once we have Bluetooth, let's add full cellphone functionality - not just the use of the carrier's bandwidth to download content, but also the ability to make and receive calls and to send and receive text and multimedia messages.

Windows Mobile 7 is (at least somewhat) multi-tasking, so I should be able to take notes and call up information while I'm speaking on the phone. And having incoming calls pop up the caller's image on that large, high-resolution screen should be quite an experience!
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It could be a kind of stretched PSP
stano360 7th May 2009
Same concept at the PSP, but with a screen suitable for reading.
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Great idea I had it in 1976
clarnT 7th May 2009
when sitting around trying to see the future. Really. And
at even $500.00 I believe it would sell. Turn it on it's side
and watch wide screen movies. So why don't you get some
investors and build it. The OS isn't important, people don't
care about operating systems, they just want to be able to
use it.

Touch screen icons that make sense and do what is
expected, no extra geek crap that commenters of ZDNet
blogs think ought to be standard.
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TWINDLE ? - Finally! Twitter Kindle = Twindle!
John McElhenney 7th May 2009
Or the TWINDLE (tm) at twindle.me @jmacofearth
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Trade-Offs Shouldn't be ignored
jpgeorgia 7th May 2009
One reason the Kindle is monochrome is battery life.
If you want a big screen, less battery life. Color,
even less battery life. Sound, far less battery life.
Either that or you have a whopping battery -- and
weight to boot. Let's see Microsoft, Amazon, and Apple
overcome that.

Now, I am an early adopter of the Kindle. I have the
version 1. While it is great for reading novels,
reading magazines is like copying and pasting Newsweek
into Notepad. Put the Kindle side by side with a
printed version of a Magazine and you can make a
fairly long list of deficiencies. But, to overcome
them, that involves trade-offs. That's why I am
skeptical about devices like the Zunebook. I would
love to see one work, but right away, I know there
will be problems.
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This is why...
jperlow 7th May 2009
Kindle should have been a device SPECIFICATION and not an actual product. That would have given the consumers some choice, and would allow manufacturers like Sharp, Sony, LG, HTC, etc, to produce Kindle compatible devices with different features. You could make the same justification for ZuneBook if it were a specification that would allow OEMs to make Black and White versions, or OLEDs, or whatever. Or make "Jumbo" sized units.
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Exactly!
HeadScratcher7 Updated - 28th May 2009
This is exactly what I said months ago. No one device will do it all -probably in response to one of your previous blogs on ebooks jperlow. lol

I love to read, but I still don't have a single ebook reader. Why? Because there's certain things I demand from my technology:

Open standards! Go EPUB! Anyone trying to sell me a eReader with anything proprietary -software, hardware, fixed battery, or only THEIR ebook store and you can forget it.

WiFi so I can put my own content on it easily.

When I buy digital content I expect it to be MINE! I can store it where I want, back it up, loan it to a friend, etc.

Crytography instead of digital rights. When I see page 77 on my version it needs to be page 77 for ALL versions. Very important for footnotes, annotations, etc. Also wouldn't mind seeing this used for book loans -friend's copy could time out and my copy works again -I'd always get my books back with ALL my notes that I had in the book. And I don't have to worry about them writing on it or folding the pages. *hate that*

Keep the cost down. If it's a dedicated eReader and it costs as much as 100 paper bound books. You have lost your mind. LOL

Color in todays world really isn't optional anymore. Want it, need it.

Now the Plastic Logic e-book reader looks good, lightweight, although still monochrome and very slow, but promising. http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/27/plastic-logic-ebook-reader-now-with-3g/

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