Internet killed the radio star: let NPR "go dark"

Summary: National Public Radio is facing the threat of losing its federal funding and having member stations lose their programming. But would this really be a bad thing?

National Public Radio is facing the threat of losing its federal funding and having member stations lose their programming. But would this really be a bad thing?

Today, Republicans in the US House of Representatives are going to vote on the elimination of federal funding of National Public Radio as well as prohibit local public radio stations from using federal funds to pay NPR dues.

If you're reading this article and you don't know what NPR is, essentially it is the radio equivalent of PBS, the network of public television stations that carry popular public TV programs such as NOVA, Frontline, American Experience, Masterpiece TheaterAntiques Roadshow and Sesame Street.

In addition to its newscasts, NPR is probably best known for All Things Considered, a two-hour weekday program that covers a variety of news and cultural subjects that has been on the air since 1971.

Both of these systems were formed in the late 1960s and the early 1970s by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) which is a not for profit organization that is directly funded by the United States government.

CPB provides some funding to PBS and to NPR, but a substantial amount of funding to PBS and NPR also come from private sources via fundraising efforts and endowments by charitable organizations.

The Republicans in the House are livid and are on a de-funding warpath because of a release of a video last week where prominent fundraiser for NPR, Ron Schiller, was secretly taped making reportedly anti-conservative, anti-Republican, anti-Tea Party comments by political activist James O'Keefe during a private meeting with a fake front group for the Muslim Brotherhood, organized by O'Keefe.

[EDIT: Per reader requests, I am pointing to the unedited, uncut version of the O'Keefe video so readers can make up their own minds about the context of Ron Schiller's comments.]

To say that Schiller was "Punked" by O'Keefe is an understatement. There has been some concern that the video(s) which he has posted have been selectively edited in order to put the worst face on Schiller's comments, which could be taken out of context.

Still. the fallout from the release of this video has been considerable. Schiller was fired. Shortly thereafter, the Board of Directors of NPR has also fired the not for profit's Executive Director, Vivian Schiller (no relation).

That being said, I do not wish to get into the finer points of partisan politics. That's not the role of this blog, which is to focus on technology. My own political leanings are what could be described as "Right Centrist Libertarian". You can interpret that any way you like.

I call myself middle of the road, with very liberal social leanings -- I'm pro gay marriage, pro-choice and pro marijuana legalization. I'm pretty much pro-everything that most conservatives and right-leaning politicians hate. On the other hand, I believe in having a very conservative economic policy (meaning we should be very careful how we spend government money) and a strong defense of our nation and our allies around the world.

At the same time I am also of the opinion that the government should be hands-off from just about everything as it concerns regulation and intervening with our capitalist system unless it becomes absolutely necessary to do so.

While I cannot say I am in general alignment with much of the legislation the Republicans and their Tea Party and other conservative-aligned supporters bring forth in the House and the Senate, I do have to agree that it probably no longer makes sense to spend federal money on supporting terrestrial radio broadcast infrastructure for NPR.

There are a number of reasons for this, but I'll state this plain and simple --- NPR should become an Internet-only radio station, where practical.

This morning, where I awoke to the news that NPR would be facing possible legislation in the House that could severely curtail funding from the federal government and prevent local radio stations from paying for NPR re-broadcast using government funds, the first thing I did was see if I could access NPR over the Internet.

More accurately, as I was lying in bed and watching CNN, what I actually did was grab my iPad 2 and go to the App Store to see if there was an iOS application to stream NPR from my device. There indeed is one, for iPad, iPhone and iPod Touch, and as a matter of fact, it is an EXCELLENT application. Not only can you live stream NPR from dozens of radio station affiliates, but you can also listen to pre-recorded podcasts and view news stories.

On the Android platform, there is an equivalent application, and my wife installed it on her Droid and it works perfectly. It should also be noted that any PC or Mac (Including the Linux system I am writing this article from now) can listen to NPR via live stream using their web-based player application. If you don't listen to NPR today via these mediums, I highly encourage you to do so.

Now, it could be argued that if NPR stops working with the large majority of public terrestrial radio stations who pay dues to carry their programming, it will lose a significant source of income. This is true.

Like PBS, NPR is a membership corporation, composed of public, non-commercial radio stations. As of 2009, NPR's income was approximately $160 million, with most of its revenue coming from programming fees it charges to stations which carry its programming (roughly 40 percent of its income) grants, contributions and sponsorships.

On the average, member stations that carry NPR content derive about 10 percent of their revenue from federal government funding, which comes in the form of grants from the CPB. NPR itself does not receive direct funding from the federal government. Rather, in addition to the CPB providing funds to the member stations which pay dues to NPR, it also provides funds that equal approximately 1.5 percent of NPR's revenues directly to the organization in the form of grants.

So if the legislation by the Republicans in the House (and eventually the Senate) passes, these radio stations which receive government money will not be able to use it to pay for NPR programming. Additionally, the CPB itself will not be able to issue grants directly to NPR.

This does not mean that public radio stations will "Go Dark". People will still be able to get local news, traffic, music, and other programming on those stations as they do now.

[NPR: Going the way of iTunes and Netflix?]»

They just won't be able to get NPR programming  on stations that are unwilling to pay for it without government money. And the concern is by the Democrats and other public interest groups that are fearful of this legislation passing is that the problem won't be that the big cities like New York, Chicago and Los Angeles won't be able to get NPR content broadcasted -- it will be the ones in the rural areas which have less sources of income.

You could also argue that once NPR "Goes Dark" on these public radio stations, you won't have ones to stream from. On the iOS and Android apps as they exist today, you have to select specific stations as your stream source.

This can be fixed with some technology intervention. Doesn't NPR know anything about consolidating their infrastructure? Couldn't they just cut some kind of deal with both Google and Apple to stream their live broadcasts and archived podcasts from a few centralized data centers? Hello, iTunes? Amazon MP3 anyone? Pandora? Netflix? Maybe even Microsoft and Bill Gates can help.

I have to think that even with a 40 percent revenue loss, with their infrastructure being consolidated that NPR can more than just plain compensate. In fact, by going all-Internet streaming, NPR could have more than one "live stream" or "channel" at a time besides their podcast programming.

How hard would it be for NPR to add in-app payment for doing "Virtual Pledge Drives" on iOS and Android? Or use PayPal or Google Marketplace to take donations over their web player? And provide special features on those apps for those who contribute? Anyone who really wants to listen to NPR -- their core audience -- will gladly donate $5 per year via in-app purchase if Internet streaming becomes the only viable way to listen to this content.

And if we are talking an audience that is estimated between 27 and 32 million listeners, that's 135 million to 160 million dollars right there. And yes, I am aware of Apple's 30 percent cut on in-app purchases, but I think they could be persuaded to suspend that for a not-for-profit or significantly lower that number.

Now, I realize not everyone who wants or could to listen to NPR has Internet access. But people who live in the big cities for the most part do. NPR should de-emphasize working with local affiliates in the major cities and concentrate its efforts on getting over-the-air broadcasts to rural environments where broadband may be difficult to access.

Still, the amount of bandwidth required to stream an 44Khz sampled PCM variable bit rate encoded audio stream (considering most of NPR's content is essentially talk radio and does not require the same level of fidelity as music) at 32Kbps or even 64Kbps is not a heck of a lot. It's not like you need super-fast cable broadband to do it. Even dial-up users should still be able to get it.

One could also argue that by going all-Internet, that you won't be able to listen to NPR in your car. While that might be a problem for a few years, there will certainly be enough 3G and 4G infrastructure within the next 3-5 years where that isn't really a concern. And of course, NPR could also continue to simulcast on Sirius XM for those of us who really want that convenience.

So I say to NPR -- "Go Dark" on your terrestrial radio. And light up the 'Net.

Should NPR move towards becoming a provider of Internet audio content? Talk Back and Let Me Know.

Disclaimer: The postings and opinions on this blog are my own and don’t necessarily represent IBM’s positions, strategies or opinions.

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  • Rural populations are probably less likely to be internet savy

    You said or make it seem that a main purpose of NPR is to provide information to people in rural areas. I believe that people in rural areas are less likely to have access to the internet and probably are less likely to be knowledgeable in streaming NPR and are probably very unlikely to know how to put NPR applications on their smart phones, if they even have one. Certainly some can and will but it just seems so unlikely.
    ok2#sssw
    • NPR is the radiostation to listen to while traveling

      specially in remote areas where cellphone coverage is bad or non existent.<br><br>So, even though most high urban areas will find it on the Internet after its gone. NPR is a radio many listen to while on the road on FM. Meanwhile alternatives are other talk shows that don't really have any cultural content.<br><br>NPR should be reprimanded in terms of its partisans view, this is definitely true, specially if its funded by the government. Having fired the main culprit, taking it off the air would be a huge cultural loss for America.<br><br>I disagree with your assessment.
      Uralbas
      • Come on

        The culture of bias infects these organizations to he core. Removing one man won't change it. Put these beast to sleep forever, but failing that taxpayers should be expected to foot the bill for such rubbish.
        Richard Flude
      • RE: NPR is the radiostation to listen to while traveling

        @Uralbas The big problem is that the author of this article doesn't seem to comprehend the impact of his self centered nationalism. For example, he tells us that he believes in a "strong defense" while, at the same time, he thinks he's a libertarian. These two viewpoints can't coincide since militaries, of course, have their own agendas and those agendas have to be covered up by governmental propaganda; this isn't small government and that's why Eisenhower warned us about "the military industrial complex."

        i.e., isn't it ironic that the moral imperative of our own military is to destroy other militaries?

        And that's why I can't agree with Jason Perlow that politics and technology don't mix since we develop technology to mitigate our society's habits.

        For example, we couldn't drive big cars and/or maintain big homes without a high tech military that secured energy resources around the world.

        That said, those in the ivory tower, the folks that Ron Schiller calls "educated," have been on a losing streak lately.

        i.e. their technology gave us the BP and Fukushima accidents and those events let us know that we're simply monkeys at a type writer.
        mistermachine
      • RE: Internet killed the radio star: let NPR

        I agree totaly!
        kinglittle@...
      • RE: Internet killed the radio star: let NPR

        @Uralbas

        Where is the culture of bias?

        Other than Stephen Colbert's note that "Truth has a liberal bias."?
        bob.klahn@...
    • It's a civic investment...

      And therefore, rural areas are more likely to have limited options for a wide selection of independent information.<br>While NPR is a public news outlet, it does NOT have an ownership structure that may be dominated & controlled by one owner and his/her executive cronies making decisions in private (as in FOX news or even CNN for that matter) -- along with massive conflicts of interest with other businesses or agendas.<br><br>And while some media outlets may have liberal leanings, one thing makes liberal media more trustworthy than the right-wing alternative: Liberal media have been more than ready to question, disagree, criticize, and turn on their own (ie: even to the extent of lemming-herds of coverage about Bill Clinton's various pointlessly personal scandals.)<br><br>Liberal media is a vocal plurality of opinions, not a lockstep, top down agenda machine.<br><br>To have no significant public/non-corporate owned radio alternatives in many parts of America will not be good. This is a case where a relatively small expenditure towards public radio journalism should be rightly understood as an important civic investment in democracy.
      voltrarian
      • RE: Internet killed the radio star: let NPR

        @voltrarian

        Most intelligent comment in this thread I have read.
        colinnwn
      • RE: Internet killed the radio star: let NPR

        @voltrarian
        Wow, really well put!
        Eleutherios
      • RE: Internet killed the radio star: let NPR

        You must have mixed up conservative vs liberal. Conservative media are the ones who report the truth, whereas the liberal media nearly always put a spin on the political reporting to make it sound as palatable as possible.
        jim_d@...
      • RE: It's a civic investment...

        @voltrarian <br><br>Moreover broadband penetration in rural areas is weak at best and non-existent in many areas covered by terrestrial radio. Remove terrestrial transmission and these citizens may have one other news station and maybe a station or two that talks about God -- that's it.<br><br>Not to mention that rural areas are generally lower income than urban and suburban centers so the idea as JP has put forth is that Mr. Jones in Shreveport Louisiana who farms and pickles fiddleheads for a living has the disposable income for a PC/tablet or smartphone and is rolling in so much dough (he does live down the road from where the teachers and firefighters have settled so you know it's McMansion time) that he can afford a data plan or broadband connection.<br><br>So we go from free and independent news to a $200-$1000+ investment with a residual $40-$120/month for connectivity.<br><br>When this country needed to run "last mile" cabling for the power grid they ensured rural communities weren't left out by creating things like the Tennessee Valley Authority which -- as I am sure our author is quite against -- was Federally funded. Unfortunately we live in different times and things like connecting everyone in our country (which made it great in the first place: Electricity, phone, mail , interstate highways, etc.) together doesn't even make it into the public forum for debate.<br><br>I would recommend JP try and examine things through a critical lense as opposed to his gushy (and I'm assuming) and metro-centric focus. New York and LA will be fine, weather I agree with the hosts or not we've got tons of choices that do not exist once you get to the exurbs.<br><br>JP is suggesting something akin to requiring everyone to purchase a satellite radio subscription.<br><br>One last thing:<br><br>Why did the government build roads and bridges, etc.? It was because PRIVATE INDUSTRY WOULD NOT CONSIDER IT BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH PROFIT INVOLVED OR THE UP FRONT EXPENSES WOULD BE TOO GREAT. Once the infrastructure is built private industry cannot wait to ge their hands on them (think how ****** the rail lines are in this country)
        jimmlegs@...
      • RE: Internet killed the radio star: let NPR

        @voltrarian Damn well said - Now I'll have to ante-up more on the pledge drives!
        Lou_Bi
      • RE: Internet killed the radio star: let NPR

        @voltrarian
        Notice how the one who disagrees does so on the Monty Python argument skit model. "No it isn't."
        bob.klahn@...
      • RE: Internet killed the radio star: let NPR

        @voltrarian Well put.Your words make a great case for keeping NPR. Mr. Perlow's words provide an equally eloquent argument for doing exactly the same,however unintended on his part. The hypocrisy in the words middle of the road,left leaning Libertarian are evident. Selfish, nearsighted thinking in direct contrast with our history and democracy.
        Thatmanstu
      • agree completely

        @voltrarian <br><br>People wildly underestimate the value of publicly-owned independent broadcasting. I fear with great fears the day when only commercial broadcasting will be available, and the world will plummet into darkness; indeed, it will "go dark".

        But to right wing conservatives this is all a political game, and since independent media are generally media with a good social conscience, and thus more often left wing liberally-inclined - these media have to go in their power struggle.
        kouzen
      • RE: Internet killed the radio star: let NPR

        @voltrarian "Liberal media have been more than ready to...turn on their own"
        So have conservative media...you must not watch closely. The Washington Times has ripped into conservatives that screwed up every bit as gleefully as they would have had it been liberal vermin instead; nor are they alone. They mainly want the big score, and as long as they can take someone down, it's not a big deal to them if it's someone they thought they could agree with.

        Likewise, conservative media (such little as there is) is hardly in lockstep either. You have plenty of variation between libertarian vs social conservative; isolationist vs interventionist, etc. About the only thing there will be a little agreement on is keeping government's hand off of our wallets! You should see Stossel and O'Reilly go at it sometimes, it's downright funny.

        A civic investment would be teaching school children that for the first 150 or so years of our country, the 10th Amendment was understood to mean that while states could do all sorts of silly things (and for quite a few years, states _could_ establish religions (denominations, actually), although Congress couldn't; but that was understood to be limited to ways that didn't deprive others of equal justice), the federal government wasn't supposed to do things that weren't either listed explicitly in the Constitution, or obviously implied by what was listed.

        Throwing public money at liberal media is not a civic investment, it's just another incestuous relationship between government and what ought to be an independent body; worse where the press is involved, because the press should not be beholden to politicians of any stripe!

        In fact, very little that government does is actually an investment. An investment is expected to produce a return; nobody puts money in something without a reasonable expectation of getting more back than they put in. But not the government; it throws money in useless rat-holes. Subsidize something: get more of it. Subsidize the poor, they just breed another generation of welfare queens. Subsidize schools, media, or anything else, and it will (as will any organization of more people than can each hold every another accountable) soon come to serve only its own continued existence.

        Any voice that can't survive the marketplace isn't likely to be worth much in the marketplace of ideas, either.

        Now...if I could donate to support _only_ the programming I liked, I just might donate to a non-profit (but not government funded) broadcaster. But not if I have to support all the liberal propaganda along with it!
        rlhamil
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        Churlish
      • It's no investment at all

        @voltrarian While I can appreciate your wishful thinking, it just doesn't reflect reality. NPR isn't an investment, it's a liberal campaign. To help balance the budget, CPB deserves to be defunded.

        "And while some media outlets may have liberal leanings, one thing makes liberal media more trustworthy than the right-wing alternative: Liberal media have been more than ready to question, disagree, criticize, and turn on their own (ie: even to the extent of lemming-herds of coverage about Bill Clinton's various pointlessly personal scandals.)"

        In the past decade, the media, *has* become the ultra-liberal "lockstep, top down agenda machine", as you put it. Not trustworthy at all, if they ever really were. Most media sources ignore all the wrongdoings of their beloved liberal icons, but jump all over the slightest flub or comment made by any person or organization not leaning completely to the left.

        NPR was a good outlet for getting more than sound bites out 20 years ago. Today they are one of the worst offenders of partisan propaganda.

        They won't go out of business by losing federal funding, whether it's direct or indirect, though now I wish they would. Cut it and let them survive on their own, just like a respectable company must.
        Get-Smart
    • RE: Internet killed the radio star: let NPR

      @ok2#sssw If you want to live in a rural area, then you have to accept the consequences of doing so. Municipal water, central sewage, cable TV, copper land lines, etc. are all in short or nonexistent supply in the hinterlands, and it's obvious to the most casual observer, so funding a national radio station solely for their benefit is not really justifiable.
      thetwonkey
      • RE: Internet killed the radio star: let NPR

        @thetwonkey I'm sure you're thinking of the hinterlands as some mountain retreat or out in the flatlands of the midwest, a hundred miles from the nearest decent sized town. But in a state like West Virginia, "rural" often starts at the city limits, and the mountainous nature of the state means that cell signals and digital broadband wire may be nonexistent just across the hill or up the hollow. On the other hand, broadcast towers reach where digital, in the hands of COMMERCIAL owners, fears to tread.
        big red one