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Why my parents don't use Android

By | October 14, 2011, 2:39pm PDT

Summary: Last week, my parents needed to buy new cell phones. Guess which phone I told them to get?

This week, my colleague James Kendrick completely annihilated ZDNet Editor-in-Chief Larry Dignan in the Great Debate over Android growth.

This gave me a great deal of satisfaction, as this vindicates many of the things I have said in the past about Android.

Although I won the popular vote over Matt Miller in our previous iPhone 5 (cough) debate, TechRepublic Editor in Chief Jason Hiner gave the nod in that battle to Miller.

I felt like I was robbed.

Hiner believes that regardless of how much Android’s market grows, the iPhone and iOS platform is just too compelling for many users who are invested in the system to bail from.

No matter how strong an argument I presented against the iPhone 4S, millions of people are going to continue to buy iPhones in droves.

Personally I agree with Kendrick that Android’s momentum is too great to stop it in its tracks even for a company as powerful and influential as Apple.

The battle for user mindshare between two platforms have locked iOS and Android into an eternal combat which will generate competition and innovation in the mobile platform industry. That’s good for everyone.

That being said, while I am a fan and user of the Android platform, I still can’t recommend it to everyone yet.

Indeed, Android has made some incredible strides in functionality and usability since its first release in 2007. It has also managed to secure over a 40 percent market share as of the end of Q3 2011 and has along with iOS continued to erode what remains of BlackBerry’s once dominant position in the consumer space.

If the trends continue, by this time next year, RIM is likely to lose all of its consumer share to competing platforms, most of it by the hands of Google’s Android.

Despite the fact that I own an iPad 2 and a Mac, I use Android as my sole smartphone OS.

Both my wife and I have Android phones. I recently purchased a Droid Bionic and my wife is due for an upgrade from her original Motorola Droid next month. In all likelihood, she’s also going to get a Bionic or similar 4G LTE Android phone from Verizon.

Why? Because we’re both heavily invested in the Google infrastructure for email and calendaring and we use a lot of Android apps.

While it’s true that many of the same types of Android apps exist on iOS, there is something to be said for familiarity. And that’s another reason why iOS users for the most part will stick with iPhones, this despite the advantages of 4G networks like Verizon’s LTE which only Android phones can take advantage of now.

But what about customers who have never owned a smartphone? What direction are they likely to choose? I think it depends on the requirements of the user.

Last week, my parents called me from their home in Florida and asked me what they should do about their cellphones. Apparently, my father dropped his accidentally in the toilet, and now his four-year-old plus AT&T “dumb” phone was dead. As a doornail.

My mother’s phone was equally ancient and despite the fact it was functioning, the voice quality and reception was awful.

So mom asked me what kind of phones they should get.

“You use AT&T now, right?”

“Yup.”

“But you don’t have any contracts on either of the phones.”

“Nope.”

“Is there any reason why you want to stay with AT&T as opposed to Verizon?”

“The Verizon plans are too expensive and we get educational discounts on the plans with AT&T.”

I had forgotten about that. My father, a retired dentist, teaches at the local dental school and my mother teaches Spanish at a local college. They get a really good plan discount, and they didn’t want to spend a ton of money on new phones either.

And while they could have gone with new “basic” phones, they wanted to get with the 21st Century. They wanted email and FaceBook on their phones.

Now, AT&T has a bunch of Android phones in their arsenal, but none of them in my opinion are as good as any of the ones Verizon currently offers. Plus, most of them are loaded with AT&T bloatware and the company is notorious for being slow about Android over the air updates.

Yeah, I could point them to Windows Phone 7.5 “Mango” devices, but despite their many years of experience with Hotmail accounts, I had just ported them over to GMail, and I wanted them to have access to large app ecosystems.

Mango is definitely a nice OS, but I’d prefer to give it time to mature before I give it the mom test.

I also thought about support issues. Sure, my parents are pretty sharp Baby Boomers, but if they encounter anything screwy with Android and Windows Phone  – which even someone like myself does occasionally — who exactly are they going to go to for support? The AT&T store? Do they call Motorola? Samsung? HTC?

Do they hunt down apocryphal threads on application compatibility issues on sites like XDA Developers?

No, they’re gonna call me. And because I use a Verizon Android device, it’s not necessarily going to behave or act like whatever random AT&T free Android device they’d end up buying. So I doubt I could help them at all.

So what did I do? I told them to walk into the AT&T store, renew their two year contract, and buy two iPhone 3GS phones (that they would get for free) with the basic data plans.

We debated whether or not they were going to go with the regular iPhone 4, but $99 per phone was still a bit expensive for seniors and they wouldn’t make use of Facetime nor were they interested in the Retina Display or the better camera(s). For their purposes, the 3GS was perfectly fine.

I had already bought them a Wi-Fi iPad 2 for my mother’s birthday, and at their age, screen size is a big issue if you’re going to do browsing — it doesn’t matter how “sharp” the display is.

And since they had a few months experience with iOS already, there was definitely no point in introducing them to a new UI with Android or Windows Phone.

But the big decision maker? If something went wrong with their phone, or they had some problems using it, I could simply say “Go bug the Geniuses at the Apple Store.”

And I would be one hundred percent confident that the Apple Store would do a much better job of supporting them than I ever could.

Heck, if the Geniuses are good enough for Steve Wozniak, they’re good enough for retirees in Boca Raton.

And that at the end of the day is why my parents don’t use Android. Without a unified tech support organization to go to and being left at the mercy of employees at carrier retail store locations or random phone support representative, Android just doesn’t have the same value proposition for “everyone else”.

Sure, Android is great for tons of people like myself that like having bleeding edge technology, but not for people like mom and dad.

Android just fails the mom and dad test, period.

Is Apple’s superior tech support the frequent deciding factor in why many users go in the iPhone direction rather than Android? Talk Back and Let Me Know.

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Jason Perlow, Sr. Technology Editor at ZDNet is a technologist with over two decades of experience with integrating large heterogeneous multi-vendor computing environments in Fortune 500 companies. A long-time computer enthusiast starting the age of 13 with his first Apple ][ personal computer, he began his freelance writing career starting at ZD Sm@rt Reseller in 1996 and has since authored numerous guest columns for ZDNet Enterprise and Ziff-Davis Internet. Jason was previously Senior Technology Editor for Linux Magazine, where he wrote about Open Source issues from 1999 to 2008.

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RE: Why my parents don't use Android
bfriskey 7th Dec
Excellent advice..Add to those nightmares the fact that every time I open any app in android ( verizon) I get offers to USE ( the fact that there is a related MONTHLY FEE is conveniently no where to be seen) Apps of verizon.I constantly get cityID, visual voicemail , vznag, and the list is endless ..Not to mention all those FORCED DOWN OUR THROAT APPS that have all the similar BOOBY TRAPS that are easily pressed to BUY or subscribe idiomatically TO SOME USELESS APP OR "SERVICE".. Me. I am finished with Android until they get a grip on all the unremovable apps forced down our throats...KEEP IT verizon I'll take that iPhone now AS MUCH AS I HATE IPHONE I HATE UN-REMOVABLE CRAP WARE MORE..I'll give some money to the guy that DOESN'T advertise us to death,,That make it only 6,999 ads per day that I'm exposed to as opposed to your 7,0000 !!
Google, Android, Verizon are pigs..So keep buying and endorsing their tactics America and I'm sure they will just stop when they realize we don't really like it but we'll pay fortunes every year to have it...!!!!! Over $1500/yr FOR A PHONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is virtually useless due to the advertising that YOU cannot remove AND YOU PAY DATA TO UPDATE TO NEW ADS!!
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My mom loves her Android phone.
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@rluxemburg Yeah, but is she on the same carrier you're on or use the same model?
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@jperlow Neither. Different phone, different carrier. She's always been good about managing her own technology though (must run in the family!)
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RE: Why my parents don't use Android
LarsDennert Updated - 17th Oct
@jperlow Can't say I disagree. The iphones just plain work but I wouldn't recommend the small lo-rez screen to my parents. I've had every Android on VZW. They all have some issues though the X was best. The Bionic is a disaster IMO. Often only good for phone calls because there is no data connection AT ALL! I'm in Los Angeles BTW.
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@LarsDennert Never had any issues with VZW Android phones. Several on the corporate plan and they all work the same within the scope of features they are built around. The X is the best to be sure, don't have any 4G because its new connectivity and not fully developed yet. Which is why as you say "Bionic is a disaster"...in sunny LA.
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ZDNET and Apple
philetus 17th Oct
@jperlow
This edition of ZDNet Tech Update Today has 12 links about Apple
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RE: Why my parents don't use Android
HotLoadTrucking Updated - 18th Oct
@jperlow

Hey there, before you buy another Bionic (My current phone as well) you might want to check this out and maybe consider holding off on using that update. The "Motorola Dinara" release would likely be after the "Google-Motorola get together" is finalized and could be a real demonstration of what that union might mean to Motorola Smart Phone product line as well as good ole' you & me. Maybe a Chrome browser... or better camera app. The rumored 13 megapixel and some real speed/improved auto focus could be hoped for. Hey, and maybe, by the time it is released, your wife would be really diggin that Bionic and... well ... (: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20080792-251/rumor-motorola-dinara-to-follow-droid-bionic-in-late-2011/
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I'm sorry but how did your father drop his cellphone in the toilet? what was he doing with it? lol
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@nessrapp
I've known a few people to do the same and similar things, it normally happens in a public restroom, where the person has their "soon to be ruined object" in the front shirt pocket, they get up off the pot, turn around, and lean over the toilet to flush.

Alternately I have also had a few people tell me they "put it on the toilet paper dispenser" then when they turned around to flush, their elbow, or purse, or jacket knocks it off the dispenser. if you turn towards the dispenser that causes it to hit or land in the toilet, if you turn a way, it normally hits the floor and either slides under the door, or under the wall to the next stall over.

thought I'd answer that one for you.

I've heard of people dropping glasses, cell phones, wallets, pocketbooks, paperback books, and some random other objects that fit on either of those two places, into the toilet or at least a near miss. One reason I advocate the foot as the perfect flushing device.
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aiellenon - more information than I needed! happy
The big question is - why would anyone handle anything non-essential while sitting on the toilet?
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@aieoulnan 2 words Public and Restroom.
You got that right. Here "In The Bowl" doesn't matter for destroying a phone. I could apply "Landed gently on the floor next to the bowl." and have equal results in the status...
In order to follow your guidelines for flushing, the 1st step would be to go to shoe store, buy new shoes. last step would be taking off shoes that touched a public toilet handle and putting on new shoes. (leave old shoes next to door)
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@nessrapp

Sounds like they need an app for that (to flush the can without maneuvering. I'd bet that Android would have a more universal flushing app -- Apple's iFlush would probably only work with their propietary iToilet.
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RE: Why my parents don't use Android
puterami@... 17th Oct
@Fubar4fun

Well, Kindle on mine allows me to "go to the library".
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RE: Why my parents don't use Android
vandamme@... 17th Oct
@nessrapp Appropriate that you're discussing Apple and toilets
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@nessrapp
Not sure how true this was, but: "Continental Research in Britain stated: 600,000 Brits have accidentally dropped their phones in the toilet"
The Washington Times, 28 February 2002
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@nessrapp
My step-son did that with his first cell phone. No matter that I got it cleaned up & sanitized, he still wouldn't use it or would say that it had stopped working again, etc. I think he just wanted a new one. I had the same model, and rescued his battery as an extra.
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@nessrapp I think his pa was using it as AT&T intended it to be used - as an a55-wipe
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@nessrapp
I dropped my G1 in a toilet at home. I was walking through the bathroom door to check on the dryer. Turning back for something I'd forgotten my hand clipped the door-frame knocking my phone from my hand right into the toilet. It was like the phone jumped right for the middle of the bowl.
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RE: Why my parents don't use Android
ZazieLavender 17th Oct
Ok, normally I'd jab Perlow a few times with a pointy stick, draw, quarter, and hang him up to dry...but he's right on THIS point.

Android is not yet Mom&Dad approved. It's bleeding edge...and living on the bleeding edge often has it's downsides. I would question the sanity of any tech savvy user who would be insane enough to plonk down anything but the latest and easiest to use version of Windows or an Apple product in front of a Senior Citizen.

Seniors and bleeding edge *DO NOT MIX!* Sometimes they don't even mix with cutting edge...they're content with that rusty old sawblade that's "Rock Solid".
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RE: Why my parents don't use Android
lindsaytheflint 17th Oct
My mum loves her Android (Motorola Atrix) too. I set it up for her to be easy to use, with all functionality she needs (including Internet-tethering for her laptop), accessible from the front screen.
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I guess it depends on their age and needs too.
johnmckay Updated - 23rd Oct
@rluxemburg Personally my wife and my parents only need a PHONE. Remenber them???? Why would they need the internet, or facebook etc. All they want to do is make a phonecall, and that doesn't need a battery sapping smartphone when a simple nokia/samsung/whatever will last a week on 1 charge.
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Your reasoning sounds like it is sound to me. I don't know if a lot of seniors used the iPhone or not, but after thinking about it, I think it's a perfect phone for seniors. Make sure you have them put it in an otter box though, because if they're like my parents they'll constantly be dropping the things. Kind of like your dad already did.
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@mgrubb Already told them to get the Otter Boxes. happy
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@jperlow Getting my mom set up on her first iPhone and first smartphone this weekend! She was on Sprint with a dumb phone until last month under contract. She loves to take pictures, so we went with the newer model with the best camera and Siri so she doesn't have to type as much. I think the newest model is best for seniors since it has the personal assistant and most accessibility with Siri.
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@jperlow
Too often, posters to these fora have the attitude of:
"Because I like Phone X, then everyone must like Phone X. Because Phone X suits my needs, then Phone X must suit everyone's needs".

It was refreshing to read an article where the author went to the trouble to weight-up the situation and look at the best solution through the eyes of the end user; not through his or her own eyes. Well done!
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"Too often, posters to these fora have the attitude of:
'Because I like Phone X, then everyone must like Phone X. Because Phone X suits my needs, then Phone X must suit everyone's needs'."

Agreed. This is common for both the talkbacks and the articles themselves - some techie thinks that everybody works the same and does everything the same, and will have the same benefits from the same stuff.

But that couldn't be further from the truth. Not everybody will have the same benefits from cloud computing. Not everybody will get the same benefits from the same software. Not everybody will get the same benefits from having a cell phone or tablet device.

Yet time and time again, I see advertised some claim about how "X technology is dead because I personally like Y technology and it suits my personal needs and I can quote some random statistic from a company you've never heard of to back myself up."

ZDNet bloggers especially has some weird websites that they follow that seem to be heavily biased towards worshiping "the cloud" rather than being realistic.

And I really really hate that we use the word "cloud" so much. It's horrifically non-descriptive and reeks too much of bad marketing. Why is this word engrained into our culture? Why can't we use a better term? Why can't we call a server farm a server farm? Why can't we call the internet the internet?

Sorry to go off topic, but I feel like the media sometimes makes HORRIBLE decisions and absolutely refuses to own up to them. Why can't I get a bit more detail in my news? Why can't I see the f***ing raw data sometimes in statistics? Why can't they think a bit more about posting some things? Why must be everything be about sensationalism?

Why is the news broken?
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RE: Why my parents don't use Android
Michael Alan Goff 16th Oct
"Actually WP 7 is not better for anyone. The general public has rejected WP 7, even when they are giving them away. When you cannot even give away phones, that says more about the lack of quality."

Allow me to return that strange logic back to you. "Actually, OSX is not better for anyone. The general public has rejected it."

See how marketshare means nothing?
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@mgrubb@... Screen Size makes it a failure for Seniors, they would never be able to see the keyboard. My wife's eyes started getting that old age vision and she finds a 4" phone tough!

Bottom line, 3.5" with 960x540 = too small for seniors!
@Peter Perry
...you get the equivalent of a 5.375-inch screen font-wise, don't you?
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@Peter Perry

If 3.5 is too small for seniors then how did they ever manage with dumb phones all these years. What's the average screen size of dumb phones? Heck how did we manage with Blackberry's 2.5" screens?
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Dare I say...
godsfault 28th Oct
@Peter Perry that if your wife can't see or read something small due to "old eyes syndrome" it is because she needs glasses.

Tell you wife to hang a pair of reading glasses on her neck and she will be able to see all those small things she complains about not seeing. (And then, chide her for her vanity for not wanting to wear glasses.)
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We had issues with Otter Boxes
TexasJetter 17th Oct
@mgrubb@...
We had several people with Otter Boxes - While it is great for the random drop, two lost their phone because it didn't "snap" in the belt case. Two more had water damage.

So use the Otter Box with care...
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Grubb you sound like your 18 so that would make your parents what 30. My parents are 83 and 88 and forget the Iphone. At that age your hands tremble so the touch screen wouldn't help them very much. If they use a cell phone they need a simple feature phone with physical keys. Seniors have many other problems with their hands due to arthritis etc.
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@mgrubb@...
Dang-nabbit!!
I guess I must be a senior now.
I simply love the way my ipad works, but only so-so enjoy my Android phone interface.
Why?
The iOS seems to work more like my brain, where the Android requires me to work more like it.
Sigh. I am getting old, but I didn't think I was senior-citizen old yet.
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@camcost@...
I think you summed it up pretty good there. iPhones are for sheeple who don't feel like thinking and Androids are for those who like to work WITH their tech instead of for it. happy
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@readydave1. I think you said it partly right. Android is for people who like to work for their tech. iOS is for people who want their tech to work for them.
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@camcost@... So what your saying is that Android makes you work your ageing brain cells... Ahh brain training,another up over IOS ?
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RE: Why my parents don't use Android
quito392 Updated - 17th Oct
@mgrubb@... why do some seniors use mac and others PCs?....slick marketing...a senior friend asked what she would do if she bought a Droid and had problems...replied, take it to the store,or MUCH better.call 611....I've used 611 many times from help on GPS to the position of the x-mission tower "boxes" .. the help has always been the same: smart, intelligent, to the point and friendly....SERVICE after the sale...VZ and Droid are a good team to have when in trouble..most of my problems are usually,well.. read: too lazy to read all the instructions. Droid and Otterbox have seen a lot of action, and still works very well....iPhone looks pretty...and ???...sorry about blackberry..ha
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My Mom loves her Windows Phone. But, one of the reasons I got it for her was that I have the same phone, so I understand that part of the argument. The best quote from my mom after a couple of days of using her Windows Phone (her first smartphone) - "This is much easier to use than I thought it would be!"
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@RGC6789

It's not just your Mom, a WP7 phone is a much better choice for everyone wink
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@tonymcs@... Yeah, I gotta agree Mango is head and shoulder's above Android and IOS!!!!!!!!
@tonymcs@...

Except for those for whom it isn't.
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@tonymcs@??? Actually WP 7 is not better for anyone. The general public has rejected WP 7, even when they are giving them away. When you cannot even give away phones, that says more about the lack of quality.
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RE: Why my parents don't use Android
Pete "athynz" Athens 16th Oct
@tonymcs@... to quote the revelvant part of an excellent post by habiloso:

Too often, posters to these fora have the attitude of:
"Because I like Phone X, then everyone must like Phone X. Because Phone X suits my needs, then Phone X must suit everyone's needs".


So - to plug in the point for you - because YOU like WP7, then everyone must like WP7. Because WP7 suits MY needs, then WP7 must suit everyone's needs.

Or from an iOS fanatic's point of view: Because iFan likes iOS then everyone likes iOS. Because iPhone 4S suit's iFan's needs then iPhone 4S must suit everyone's needs.

WP7 is an interesting OS, I use an iPhone 4 for my personal phone and a Blackberry Curve for my work phone - that does not mean that Android would not suit me better as a work phone or that an iPhone would suit you better than your WP7 device.

In other words you are just as bad with your WP7 religion as any iOS fanatic. I am a proponent of iOS but I do know it is not for everyone... unlike the author of this quote: ...a WP7 phone is a much better choice for everyone...
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@tonymcs@...

Hardly. WP7 is a turd and its marketshare is evidence of that.
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Not just that my mum says WP7 helped her wash the dishes and dads never been so frisky since she started synching with Microsoft exchange!

You Microsoft turfers are soooooo transparent.
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RE: Why my parents don't use Android
Return_of_the_jedi Updated - 14th Oct
Brought to you by Zdnet.
... advancing. Even though most of Android sales are useless in sense of "smartphone" use (no access to AndroidMarket, or even there is, people use the phonoes with tiny flash memory mostly like feature phones), they definitely sell faster than Apple's phones, whish sold like more than twice pricier (without contract) than mass Android phones.
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@DeRSSS iOS is not the #1 mobile OS in active use according to ComScore, NPD and Neilsen. Google has over 40 percent of the market, with Apple in the #2 spot at 27 percent and RIM trailing (and share declining rapidly) at 21 percent.
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Excellent advice..Add to those nightmares the fact that every time I open any app in android ( verizon) I get offers to USE ( the fact that there is a related MONTHLY FEE is conveniently no where to be seen) Apps of verizon.I constantly get cityID, visual voicemail , vznag, and the list is endless ..Not to mention all those FORCED DOWN OUR THROAT APPS that have all the similar BOOBY TRAPS that are easily pressed to BUY or subscribe idiomatically TO SOME USELESS APP OR "SERVICE".. Me. I am finished with Android until they get a grip on all the unremovable apps forced down our throats...KEEP IT verizon I'll take that iPhone now AS MUCH AS I HATE IPHONE I HATE UN-REMOVABLE CRAP WARE MORE..I'll give some money to the guy that DOESN'T advertise us to death,,That make it only 6,999 ads per day that I'm exposed to as opposed to your 7,0000 !!
Google, Android, Verizon are pigs..So keep buying and endorsing their tactics America and I'm sure they will just stop when they realize we don't really like it but we'll pay fortunes every year to have it...!!!!! Over $1500/yr FOR A PHONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is virtually useless due to the advertising that YOU cannot remove AND YOU PAY DATA TO UPDATE TO NEW ADS!!

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